The right is predicting that the left will react violently if Their leader wins in 2020

[lurchadams]

Please step back for a moment to acknowledge the RW PC backlash at that.
I'm talking about how they're attempting to redefine the meaning of the words "racist" and "racism".

But the reason Antifa are largely anarchist is because they've always been. Today's Antifa are most closely related to the post-Wall Berlin squatter movement of the 1980's/90's. They were noted for their anarchism.
Historically, Antifaschistische Aktion was a German anti-Nazi street group.
(Well, maybe more than just a "street group")

By the way, there it is, right alongside the Antifa flag, the hammer and sickle.

The Antifa of today wish they had a connection to the old 1930's AF but they don't.
And even if they did, they've accomplished nothing in their street theater West Side Story rehearsals with the Nazis.

Thanks for the info. FYI, I'm not on Antifa's mailing list, nor do I advocate violence of any kind, be it on the left or the right.

 

[Waddy]

No they are not.

Not sure how something can be constitutionally protected when it wasn’t even invented when the amendment was ratified.

Oh, you mean like the telephone? Silly of us to expect our phone conversations to be private, under the Fourth Amendment. Then the police could say, "We don' need no stinkin' warrant to wire tap your phone".

 

[Waddy]

And Nazism was leftwing socialism. In fact, that is what Nazi stands for: Socialism. The Democratic Party now is where the Nazi Party was in the early 1930s.

And the NAZI's got much of their racial ideology from American progressives of the time. But while the American progressives couldn't get much of their program legislated the NAZI's actually put those ideas into action.

And let's be clear; Communism is also left wing. Just sayin'.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Thanks for the info. FYI, I'm not on Antifa's mailing list, nor do I advocate violence of any kind, be it on the left or the right.

Oh, you don't get the little mailer they send out?

Well damn. I thought everyone got those.

 

[Taylor]

tell me other then hate crimes what crimes does your man provoke , if the go over the hill by the turds rhetoric , it is a hate crime.

Let's try to stay on topic. The question is how the left might react violently if Trump wins reelection. Ways in which the left tends to do that is with riots and political assassination attempts. Let's hope we can rule out the latter (though the latest attempt was just a few years ago). We can almost guarantee that there will be protest marches, so the question is whether or not those turn into riots.

 

[OrphanSlug]

That won't even rock the boat, of the 50 people killed in hate crimes in 2018 , You don't see black panthers or Antifa anyplace in that list. and throw in the fact that since hate crimes became a charge 2/3rd are done by the right. Those facts show that yes it is the right side that is violent , I think 50 out of 50 murders and 66% of all hate crimes makes it clear where the violence is coming from.

I'll note your willingness to forgive the violence you agree with in an effort to suggest the only worry is the violence you do not agree with.

 

[lurchadams]

Oh, you don't get the little mailer they send out?

Well damn. I thought everyone got those.

Nope, all I get are hempfest updates and invites to the drum circles held behind my local Whole Foods

 

[Phys251]

What strawman do you imagine?

The ADL states ANTIFA is a combination of leftists and anarchists. Is the ADL lying?

You don't even know the difference between leftists and anarchists, do you? Leftists support the abolition of capitalism and replacing it with a worker-ownership economy. Liberals support keeping capitalism but they also support common-sense regulation, which rightists militantly oppose. Few if any liberals are anarchists, but some leftists are.

Antifa is not liberal. They are anarchists.

 

[Fledermaus]

You don't even know the difference between leftists and anarchists, do you? Leftists support the abolition of capitalism and replacing it with a worker-ownership economy. Liberals support keeping capitalism but they also support common-sense regulation, which rightists militantly oppose. Few if any liberals are anarchists, but some leftists are.

Antifa is not liberal. They are anarchists.

Is the ADL lying?

 

[Phys251]

Is the ADL lying?

Again you dodge my point. :lol: Why do you deserve the privilege of being listened to if you will not return the favor? :thumbs:

 

[Ikari]

Lets throw some facts into the basket, first since The charge of hate crimes was implemented, 2 out of every 3 hate crimes have been perpetrated by the right. So how has it progressed since their leader was voted into office. In 2018 there was 50 hate crime murders, none were done by the left, they were all done by the right. So tell us again about the threat of violence from the left. I predict now that we will get single actions done by the left, over riding, in their mind, these hate crime statistic facts. The violence is on the right and this violence is supported by their party. That's how they perceive this country, that's what they want for this country.

Well some folk had claimed that Obama wouldn't peacefully transition power when his term was over.

But in the end, if Trump is re-elected I don't think we're going to see a dramatic increase in violence. There will likely be a lot of noise generated on both sides, and groups like Antifa and the Proud Boys may bolster their activity. But on the whole, we'll likely not see anything too dramatic.

 

[Fledermaus]

Again you dodge my point. :lol: Why do you deserve the privilege of being listened to if you will not return the favor? :thumbs:

I may have missed it. Did you answer the question?

And I will take the word of ADL over someone who saw a banner years ago.

 

[Mithros]

And Nazism was leftwing socialism. In fact, that is what Nazi stands for: Socialism. The Democratic Party now is where the Nazi Party was in the early 1930s.

The National Socialist German Workers’ Party had as much in common with socialism as the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea has with a democracy. :doh

 

[jbander]

Your party can't survive without "racists".

This from the mouth of a member of a racist group. The new goofball routine, can't argue the point that every time your God and leader opens his mouth hate and racism comes out of it. So call the other side racist and if you lie long enough it will become a fact , now who said that in the past.

 

[Lucky 1]

who's ignorant, tell me about your ban in 1934 that you can get a permit for. If you can get a permit, it's not a ban cowboy. and anyone can buy a assault weapon. Just like anyone can bye a tank, or a piece of artillery or a bazooka with the missiles to go with it. Why have a assault weapon anyway when you can buy a Machine gun 30 or 50 cal.. Sorry buddy you don't know what you are talking about.

You've made my point....pretty much everything you just said confirms you have no idea what you're talking about.

And getting a Federal Class 3 firearms permit is expensive, time consuming and requires multiple FBI background checks and personal FBI interviews .....very few people go through the trouble or even want to own such weapons.

And for that matter when was the last time an assault weapon was used in a mass shooting??? Like never!!!

 

[jbander]

And the NAZI's got much of their racial ideology from American progressives of the time. But while the American progressives couldn't get much of their program legislated the NAZI's actually put those ideas into action.

And let's be clear; Communism is also left wing. Just sayin'.

Just rewrite history cowboy, this thread is about how the right is the group that has to be dealt with because of their violent nature .As shown by all stats out there.

 

[jbander]

Let's try to stay on topic. The question is how the left might react violently if Trump wins reelection. Ways in which the left tends to do that is with riots and political assassination attempts. Let's hope we can rule out the latter (though the latest attempt was just a few years ago). We can almost guarantee that there will be protest marches, so the question is whether or not those turn into riots.

If it is the right wing there will be Violante supported by the numbers and if it is the left not probable.

 

[jbander]

I'll note your willingness to forgive the violence you agree with in an effort to suggest the only worry is the violence you do not agree with.

You can't just make **** up for a answer here. None of your point is even close to true.

 

[jbander]

Well some folk had claimed that Obama wouldn't peacefully transition power when his term was over.

But in the end, if Trump is re-elected I don't think we're going to see a dramatic increase in violence. There will likely be a lot of noise generated on both sides, and groups like Antifa and the Proud Boys may bolster their activity. But on the whole, we'll likely not see anything too dramatic.

One way that the left may turn violent is if it's found out that the turd got elected again because of the Russians, that probably won't wash.

 

[Jay59]

Well some folk had claimed that Obama wouldn't peacefully transition power when his term was over.

But in the end, if Trump is re-elected I don't think we're going to see a dramatic increase in violence. There will likely be a lot of noise generated on both sides, and groups like Antifa and the Proud Boys may bolster their activity. But on the whole, we'll likely not see anything too dramatic.

Got that one right.

Again you dodge my point. :lol: Why do you deserve the privilege of being listened to if you will not return the favor? :thumbs:

Again, you did not answer his question.

One way that the left may turn violent is if it's found out that the turd got elected again because of the Russians, that probably won't wash.

Been there, done that. It did not turn out well for you.

 

[jbander]

The National Socialist German Workers’ Party had as much in common with socialism as the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea has with a democracy. :doh

any time the word social is in the name of any group the right calls them commies , they are like children.

 

[MSgt]

?!?!?!?....

Lets throw some facts into the basket, first since the charge of hate crimes was implemented, 2 out of every 3 hate crimes have been perpetrated by the right.

I can think of one very recent hate crime that was committed by a left-wing supremacist.

So...1 out of 3? Isn't this what jbander implied when he stated that 2 out of every 3 came from the Right? Doesn't that leave your 1? I don't know if this is a fact (seems right), but you merely complimented and validated his statement. At least his point.

You are too eager to defend your political position to realize what you are defending. By taking offense and rushing to defend, you place yourself in with the crap. It's the same thing Conservatives did with "deplorable." Don't even bother acknowledging that this involved neo-Nazis and supremacists in the crowd as Trump ridiculed women, the handicapped, and military POWs. Conservatives everywhere decided that they too were deplorable, thereby defending the crap.

And it is this default to defend that encapsulates so many here who refuse to separate truth from BS.

 

[jbander]

Your party can't survive without "racists".

I predict when society force these right wing supporters back under the rocks they came from , it will be the last voice of hate that has any political clout. About These haters, our society has been able to keep them under their rocks with this country's morals and conscience for decades and they would have stayed there if they hadn't found a voice in pres Scum Bag. When he goes , this country will go back to ignoring and pretending we don't even know these haters as they are forced back to live the rest of their lives under their rocks.

 

[OrphanSlug]

You can't just make **** up for a answer here. None of your point is even close to true.

And you cannot ignore violence you are trying to forgive just because you politically align to them or more importantly are too interested in right leaning violence to care about all violence.

 

[Taylor]

If it is the right wing there will be Violante supported by the numbers and if it is the left not probable.

Right, the numbers say that if the right wins, there will be Violante and if the left wins it is not probable.