Major League Baseball 2017

[calamity]

Reds are only 1/2 game out of place :shock:

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

Reds are only 1/2 game out of place :shock:

Cubs are looking average.

Also how about the SF Giants? They are just plain bad. The 2nd half of last year they were terrible, but they held on and made the WC game. But now this year they are bad again. Got to wonder if it's just a long slump, or maybe time to tear the team down and start over? They've been damn good for awhile. Their run maybe over.

 

[calamity]

Cubs are looking average.

Also how about the SF Giants? They are just plain bad. The 2nd half of last year they were terrible, but they held on and made the WC game. But now this year they are bad again. Got to wonder if it's just a long slump, or maybe time to tear the team down and start over? They've been damn good for awhile. Their run maybe over.

I'm stunned to see how poorly both the Cubs and Giants are playing. On the flip side-- How abut them Yankees?

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

I'm stunned to see how poorly both the Cubs and Giants are playing. On the flip side-- How abut them Yankees?

Yankees Starting pitching is going to be their problem. They do have a good enough Bullpen to lessen their starting pitching woes. But eventually the lack of starters will hurt them. But there will be pitchers on the trading block come July.

 

[Bucky]

I'm stunned to see how poorly both the Cubs and Giants are playing. On the flip side-- How abut them Yankees?

The Yankees are the real deal and have a chance to win the WS. If they can land Jose Quintana or Gerrit Cole, I would think they would be in the drivers seat for the WS.

The amazing thing is that Gleyber Torres is getting closer to being in MLB. In July I could see him dominant. The kid is whiz with the bat. Imagine a young A-Rod.

 

[Jack Hays]

[h=3]What is Mike Rizzo going to do about the Nats’ bullpen? ‘Trust the track record.’[/h]
If things don't improve, Nats' GM says he won't be afraid to make a move.

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[SenorXm/Sirius]

Familia is out indefinitely. Blood Clot in his shoulder, and surgery is likely. Anyone in a fantasy league pick up Reed.

In the NL East it may come down to which Bullpen will be the less terrible. the Nats or the Mets.

 

[JamesBY]

Rizzo may be one of the three worst GMs in the NL.

 

[Jack Hays]

Rizzo may be one of the three worst GMs in the NL.

That's uninformed. He has built a sound roster that contends every year and has depth in the minor leagues.

 

[JamesBY]

That's uninformed. He has built a sound roster that contends every year and has depth in the minor leagues.

Only to the uninformed, is that so. You defend the indefensible. He blackballed a manager who resigned rather than play the GM's power games. The GM has superior players who simply under perform in the post season. That is on the leadership provided by the GM, who wants to be the manager himself. Billy Bean he ain't.

If the Nationals had the Dogers' manager last year, they would have swept the WS or darn close to it.

 

[Jack Hays]

Only to the uninformed, is that so. You defend the indefensible. He blackballed a manager who resigned rather than play the GM's power games. The GM has superior players who simply under perform in the post season. That is on the leadership provided by the GM, who wants to be the manager himself. Billy Bean he ain't.

If the Nationals had the Dogers' manager last year, they would have swept the WS or darn close to it.

That's just silly. I don't know who you think Rizzo blackballed. His hire of Dusty Baker looks good to me, and I've seen no sign Rizzo wants to do Baker's job.

 

[austrianecon]

That's just silly. I don't know who you think Rizzo blackballed. His hire of Dusty Baker looks good to me, and I've seen no sign Rizzo wants to do Baker's job.

Mike Rizzo forced out Jim Riggleman in 2011 who wanted to his contract extended to 2012. Rizzo treated Riggleman like **** and previous managers. Rizzo didn't believe in more then one year contracts for managers and had Riggleman on 1 year deals since 2009.
Rizzo and the Nats (Lerners) also screwed the pooch on getting Bud Black who they actually wanted.. Dusty Baker was a fall back.


I have a feeling Rizzo will be gone if the Nats don't get it done this year.

 

[DA60]

Suddenly, the Jays don't suck...even with all their injuries to key players (the left side of the diamond, their catcher and 3/5'ths of their starters all out - and they have NO DEPTH at the latter two areas).

Was I premature in writing them off?

Dunno.

Their RISP (hitting with runner's in scoring position) and their bullpen have REALLY improved over the past 10 games. But is it an anomaly or a sign of the times?

I assume the former...hope I am wrong.

 

[Jack Hays]

Mike Rizzo forced out Jim Riggleman in 2011 who wanted to his contract extended to 2012. Rizzo treated Riggleman like **** and previous managers. Rizzo didn't believe in more then one year contracts for managers and had Riggleman on 1 year deals since 2009.
Rizzo and the Nats (Lerners) also screwed the pooch on getting Bud Black who they actually wanted.. Dusty Baker was a fall back.


I have a feeling Rizzo will be gone if the Nats don't get it done this year.

Riggleman quit on the team. His departure was addition by subtraction. Whatever the circumstances of Baker's hiring, he has been a good manager.

 

[JamesBY]

Riggleman quit on the team. His departure was addition by subtraction. Whatever the circumstances of Baker's hiring, he has been a good manager.

Riggleman acted with honor and integrity, Rizzo did not. Baker is an acceptable manager, but when the Nats fail this year (as they will), Rizzo will look in the mirror and fire Baker.

 

[Jack Hays]

Riggleman acted with honor and integrity, Rizzo did not. Baker is an acceptable manager, but when the Nats fail this year (as they will), Rizzo will look in the mirror and fire Baker.

I thought Riggleman was a poor manager and leader, as demonstrated when he quit, and sending him off was an excellent leadership decision.

 

[JamesBY]

I thought Riggleman was a poor manager and leader, as demonstrated when he quit, and sending him off was an excellent leadership decision.

That type of thinking undergirds the Nationals' failure in the last six years to advance to the WS.

 

[Jack Hays]

That type of thinking undergirds the Nationals' failure in the last six years to advance to the WS.

I doubt anything I personally think, do or say has anything to do with the Nationals' success or failure. They have not advanced to the WS because they have been defeated by better teams.

 

[JamesBY]

I doubt anything I personally think, do or say has anything to do with the Nationals' success or failure. They have not advanced to the WS because they have been defeated by better teams.

. . . and hindered by Rizzo's leadership, imo. I can leave it there.

 

[Jack Hays]

. . . and hindered by Rizzo's leadership, imo. I can leave it there.

As you wish.

 

[austrianecon]

Riggleman quit on the team. His departure was addition by subtraction. Whatever the circumstances of Baker's hiring, he has been a good manager.

No, Riggleman didn't quit on the team. He quit a ****ty GM who was getting multiyear contract and a ownership group who knew **** all about baseball. Nats are the only team in the MLB that hasn't given a manager a contract longer then 3 years.

 

[Jack Hays]

No, Riggleman didn't quit on the team. He quit a ****ty GM who was getting multiyear contract and a ownership group who knew **** all about baseball. Nats are the only team in the MLB that hasn't given a manager a contract longer then 3 years.

Walter Alston managed the Dodgers successfully for around 25 years on a series of one-year contracts.

 

[JamesBY]

Walter Alston managed the Dodgers successfully for around 25 years on a series of one-year contracts.

Forty years ago, and the game has changed, as you well know. The comparison fails on the face of it.

 

[Jack Hays]

Forty years ago, and the game has changed, as you well know. The comparison fails on the face of it.

Not at all. People (look in a mirror) have regressed. The principles of excellence remain, even if some cannot recognize them.

 

[JamesBY]

Not at all. People (look in a mirror) have regressed. The principles of excellence remain, even if some cannot recognize them.

Of course your comparison fails prima facie. Yes, look in the mirror. The whole salary structure has change, the negotiating has changed, and Rizzo will be very unlikely ever considered as a standard of GM excellence.