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Indonesian men caned for gay sex in Aceh

Please, can this thread get back to the topic of gay men being beaten in Indonesia?
 
Napoleon said:
It is backed by Christians. The same savages who persecute LGBT people in Russia.
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Okay, whatever you say. Better luck not failing next time. :peace
 
ajn678 said:
Yes and that is something that the nation needs to deal with as a whole. I'm worried about what happens when our citizens and allied citizens get blown up by terrorists. Its a much more pressing matter.
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You say that because, assuming you're straight, anti-gay persecution is never something you will have to fear.
 
ajn678 said:
Okay, whatever you say. Better luck not failing next time. :peace
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It isn't what I say. Those are the facts - which you were unaware of. There is no failure. Just more evidence of the violence committed against LGBT people by Christians and with the backing of Christians.
 
Phys251 said:
You say that because, assuming you're straight, anti-gay persecution is never something you will have to fear.
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A lot of assumptions made from someone that proclaims to be Liberal.
 
Napoleon said:
It isn't what I say. Those are the facts - which you were unaware of. There is no failure. Just more evidence of the violence committed against LGBT people by Christians and with the backing of Christians.
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You're just digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole. Better luck next time.
 
ajn678 said:
A lot of assumptions made from someone that proclaims to be Liberal.
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1. Your sexual orientation is not my business unless you choose to disclose it.

2. The actual number of Westerners that terrorists kill every year is quite low.
 
ajn678 said:
You're just digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole. Better luck next time.
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Your response to the second LGBT holocaust backed and committed by Christians is "better luck next time?"
 
JMaximus said:
Spot ****ing on.

There is nothing liberal about defending and making excuses for the international hate group known as "Islam".
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Hmm or the hate group that you seems to be a proud member of by the name of right wing Christianity.

Nothing like finding an excused to hate and look down on roughly one third of the human race.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
He's referring to the American Christians that lobbied Uganda for the Anti-Homosexuality Act (2014).

"Same-sex relationships have been illegal in Uganda since British colonial rule – as they are in many African countries – and before this Act was passed, they were punishable by incarceration in prison for up to 14 years. The Act was introduced as a private member's bill by Member of Parliament (MP) David Bahati on 14 October 2009. A special motion to introduce the bill was passed a month after a two-day conference was held in which three Christians from the United States asserted that homosexuality is a direct threat to the cohesion of African families."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2014
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So if you have gay sex, they send you to a building where there are only men?

Good plan.
 
JMaximus said:
Huh?

Comparing not getting a cake to being imprisoned and publicly beaten is disingenuous.

They aren't even remotely similar.
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They did get a cake, just not at that place.

Nothing was denied them.
 
Mason66 said:
So if you have gay sex, they send you to a building where there are only men?

Good plan.
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Seems unfair to the heteros.
 
Indonesian men caned for gay sex in Aceh

A gay friend of mine commented when reading about the caning, "The authorities really do not get it."
 
BillRM said:
Hmm or the hate group that you seems to be a proud member of by the name of right wing Christianity.
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Striking out already?

You are a joke.

Nothing like finding an excused to hate and look down on roughly one third of the human race.
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So one third of the human race lives in Indonesia's Aceh province?


Must get pretty crowded there...
 
BillRM said:
Three people who run religion organizations in the many hundreds of thousands members worldwide.
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Who were the three people?

What are their names and which religious organizations do they run?
 
JamesBY said:
So when you have sex with women, you should be sent to a room with only women? Not a good idea. They will really, really hurt you.
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They're evil folk alright!
 
JMaximus said:
Striking out already?

You are a joke.



So one third of the human race lives in Indonesia's Aceh province?


Must get pretty crowded there...
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No roughly one third of the world population are Muslims.
 
JMaximus said:
Who were the three people?

What are their names and which religious organizations do they run?
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Here the information that anyone could had found out with a fast google search but even those I am not a Christian I am always willing to help out my fellow men.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Warren

Richard Duane "Rick" Warren (born January 28, 1954) is an American evangelical Christian pastor and author.[1][2][3] He is the founder and senior pastor of Saddleback Church, an evangelical megachurch in Lake Forest, California, that is the eighth-largest church in the United States (including multi-site churches).[4] He is also a bestselling author of many Christian books, including his guide to church ministry and evangelism, The Purpose Driven Church, which has spawned a series of conferences on Christian ministry and evangelism. He is perhaps best known for the subsequent book The Purpose Driven Life which has sold more than 30 million copies, making Warren a New York Times bestselling author.[5][6]
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Lou Engle is an American Charismatic Christian leader, best known for his leadership of The Call, a program that hosts twelve-hour prayer rallies,[1] and his association with prominent members of the Christian Right. Engle was a senior leader of the International House of Prayer and has assisted in the establishment of several smaller "houses" of prayer.
Engle has been organizing large prayer rallies since 1999, with hundreds of thousands of people in multiple countries participating. The size of these events, in addition to Engle's political statements, has raised his prominence among the Christian Right.[2] Journalist Bruce Wilson referred to Engle as "the unofficial prayer leader of the Republican Party."[3] In addition to these meetings, Engle established several small houses of prayer through his Justice House of Prayer ministry. These ministries are often located near prominent landmarks, such as Harvard University or the United States Supreme Court. The locations of the ministries are strategically chosen, to specifically contend issues such as abortion.[4]
In 2008, Engle focused the attention of his prayer groups towards supporting California's Proposition 8 ballot measure.[5] He organized 24-hour protests in front of the United States Supreme Court, whereby the young participants symbolized the powerlessness of terminated fetuses by placing tape over their mouths with the word "LIFE" written on it.[6]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Lively

Scott Douglas Lively (born December 14, 1957) is an American activist, author, attorney, and an independent candidate for Governor of Massachusetts in the 2014 election.[1][2][3][3][4] He is the president of Abiding Truth Ministries, a conservative Christian organization based in Temecula, California.[5] He is a cofounder of Watchmen on the Walls, an international evangelical ministry based in Riga, Latvia that describes itself as "the international Christian movement that unites Christian leaders, Christian and social organizations and aims to protect Christian morals and values in society."[6] He was the state director of the California branch of the American Family Association and a spokesman for the Oregon Citizens Alliance.[7]
Lively has called for the criminalization of "the public advocacy of homosexuality" as far back as 2007.[8][9] He gave "a series of talks" to Ugandans and met with Ugandan lawmakers immediately before anti-gay legislation in Uganda was drafted.[10] He appeared in Russian television channel Russia-1's documentary titled Sodom in September 2014.[11]
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The Democrat Left are a Coalition of Special Interest Groups:
ie. socialists + redistributionists + racialists + feminists + Islamists + etc

Their alliance is simply an alliance of convenience, based on common political interests of the moment, and not common values - indeed their values are often divergent.

This means an inherent propensity for conflict between these divergent groups. This then necessitates constant non-stop spin-management by self-appointed mediators-spokespeople-activists to continually re-phrase and re-jig the perspective on any given event, in order to avoid or minimize cleavages of the precious all-important Coalition.

"Muslims? Beating Gays? That's... umm... impossible - it's just historical revisionism - and besides... ummm ... everybody knows that Christians beat up more Gays than Muslims do - in fact, there are so many such incidents that they fill up the nightly news in every Christian-majority country"
:roll:
 
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