What "well regulated" means in the 2nd Amendment

[TurtleDude]

The Vegas shooter wasn't firing off a tripod. In the video you can see his muzzle flash outside the window. Using a tripod, his muzzle would have extended past the window frame.

in all fairness-that depends where his tripod was but the based on the angle, you are most likely correct.

 

[apdst]

That's not the point. Are you denying that the assault weapons ban included semiautomatic assault rifles?

There's no such thing as a semi-automatic assault rifle.

 

[TurtleDude]

What definition are you going by?

The "Assault Rifle Ban" included such semiautomatics.

that's because the dishonest scum who wrote the law are liars and scum

 

[apdst]

Show me where a potato is a tomato. Lol

Exactly! Ergo, a semi-automatic rifle isn't an assault rifle.

 

[TurtleDude]

Hmmm, interesting distinction. So what do you make of this?

assault weapon is a dishonest term used mainly by anti gunners to describe semi auto only firearms. Military assault requires fully automatic weapons. It is akin to saying this

all steak has to be made of animal meat

this is a vegetarian steak

 

[TurtleDude]

Exactly! Ergo, a semi-automatic rifle isn't an assault rifle.

bannerrhoids figure that slow witted voters would think of CRIMINAL assault when the bannerrhoids applied that term to semi autos that are not useful for MILITARY ASSAULT

 

[vegas giants]

Exactly! Ergo, a semi-automatic rifle isn't an assault rifle.

Yes it is. Unless you can prove otherwise.....lol

 

[VanceMack]

Hmmm, interesting distinction. So what do you make of this?

Bush didnt permanently ban anything. No president has that kind of authority. What he did was passed an Executive Order that expired, and the EO didnt ban ARs...it placed import restrictions on foreign owned and manufactured non sporting rifles while still allowing for the domestic manufacture and sale of ARs as well as the manufacture and importation of weapons from American businesses in foreign locations. American manufacturers stepped up production and companies like Atlantic and Primary Arms entered into manufacturing agreements with those same foreign plants and kept on producing firearms for importation and sale. Ironically, groups like Zastaza and others became US based/partnered companies and increased sales. (I have one of their M92s...its a good firing weapon...very reliable..brings the AK frame and reliability to the .223 platform).

 

[apdst]

Yes it is. Unless you can prove otherwise.....lol

Is this an assault rifle?

 

[Rich2018]

Is this an assault rifle?

I'll answer for him, no it isn't.

 

[vegas giants]

Is this an assault rifle?

Yes...

 

[Rich2018]

The horse left the barn. We're stuck with them.

A country as powerful as the USA, can get the horse back in its stable.

 

[apdst]

bannerrhoids figure that slow witted voters would think of CRIMINAL assault when the bannerrhoids applied that term to semi autos that are not useful for MILITARY ASSAULT

They just want to ban all guns. "Assault rifle" soumds scary and freaks people out.

Next, this will be a "high powered, super-long range sniper rifle"

 

[apdst]

Yes...

You just confirmed what we've been saying all along.

 

[vegas giants]

They just want to ban all guns. "Assault rifle" soumds scary and freaks people out.

Next, this will be a "high powered, super-long range sniper rifle"

No. Just assault rifle

 

[Rich2018]

Correct. THOSE rifles cannot be fired with a bump stock from a tripod...

So that picture I posted is wrong...a bump stock equipped rifle cannot be mounted on a tripod, to the best of your knowledge ?

 

[vegas giants]

You just confirmed what we've been saying all along.

Great. Glad you agree

 

[Rich2018]

Yes...

We disagree.

 

[apdst]

I'll answer for him, no it isn't.

According to gun ban bills that rifle is illegal because it has a barrel shroud, bayonet lug and can be used with a grenade launcher.

 

[apdst]

So that picture I posted is wrong...a bump stock equipped rifle cannot be mounted on a tripod, to the best of your knowledge ?

It can be mounted, but it'll make the bumpstock useless.

 

[vegas giants]

According to gun ban bills that rifle is illegal because it has a barrel shroud, bayonet lug and can be used with a grenade launcher.

It's an assault rifle

 

[vegas giants]

We disagree.

I dont care who agrees

 

[TurtleDude]

They just want to ban all guns. "Assault rifle" soumds scary and freaks people out.

Next, this will be a "high powered, super-long range sniper rifle"

one of the most gaping assholes in the bannerrhoid movement is VPC butt boy Tom Diaz. he tried floating "sniper rifle" bans about 15 years ago after the VPC had pushed the assault weapon nonsense. It didn't go very far since even some "assault weapon" haters realized what would be the fall out if they supported banning common hunting rifles

 

[ataraxia]

There's no such thing as a semi-automatic assault rifle.

According to the NRA, not according to the government which created the ban.

” To be clear, though, the federal government usually refers to a military-style weapon capable of firing multiple rounds, either semi-automatic or a fully automatic firearm.”

Definition of what’s an '''assault weapon''' is a very contentious issue

 

[cabse5]

You want to own a firearm, fine with me, but don't give me this militia bull.

Which is the 'militia bull'?