What is Trump's Most Substantial Presidential Shortcoming?

[TurtleDude]

I have no time for non-arguments like buthillary. If you carry water for this guy for the next four years, what spills out of the bucket is bound to leave a stain. He's not part of your ingroup.

he was the best of two bad choices. pure and simple and his judicial picks-so far are awesome, including a guy I worked with and I am glad he sits on the Court of Appeals and may well be elevated to the Supreme court

 

[lurchadams]

We do know

which why trump is president

Well, then I defer to your superior soothsaying abilities. I, for one, thought Trump would behave presidential upon taking office. I have lost confidence in my ability to predict any political outcome.

 

[Helix]

he was the best of two bad choices. pure and simple and his judicial picks-so far are awesome, including a guy I worked with and I am glad he sits on the Court of Appeals and may well be elevated to the Supreme court

Your personal connections don't make this guy a competent president.

 

[Mac77]

Well, then I defer to your superior soothsaying abilities.

I, for one, thought Trump would behave presidential upon taking office.

I have lost confidence in my ability to predict any political outcome.

You mean like a good little swamp creature?

He is not a professional politician

 

[TurtleDude]

Your personal connections don't make this guy a competent president.

your complaints don't render him incompetent either

 

[lurchadams]

You mean like a good little swamp creature?

He is not a professional politician

You don't have to be a "swamp creature" to have respect for yourself and for the responsibility of the office of the presidency of the United States.

 

[Mac77]

Well, then I defer to your superior soothsaying abilities. I, for one, thought Trump would behave presidential upon taking office. I have lost confidence in my ability to predict any political outcome.

In a presidential election you are forced to choose unless you are an "undisclosed" who sits on the fence and supports nothing and no one

I compared hillary to trump and chose trump hands down

 

[Mac77]

You don't have to be a "swamp creature" to have respect for yourself and for the responsibility of the office of the presidency of the United States.

Trump has respect for the office he holds

But the rabid leftwing chooses to given him an rectal exam each morning looking for any fact or fiction that they can bash him for

 

[lurchadams]

sad that the people who worshipped Russia for 80 years now pretend that Russia controls Trump

Well, I just have to step in here and respectfully say how ill-conceived of a statement that is. I, for one have never worshipped Russia nor do I know anyone, liberal or conservative who does. Don't get me wrong, I think the Russian people are very nice, they're just lead by a selfish paranoid, murderous, cruel regime. If most Russian people felt free to express their views without getting murdered or imprisoned, I feel they'd mirror my opinion of their leadership.

 

[TurtleDude]

Well, I just have to step in here and respectfully say how ill-conceived of a statement that is. I, for one have never worshipped Russia nor do I know anyone, liberal or conservative who does. Don't get me wrong, I think the Russian people are very nice, they're just lead by a selfish paranoid, murderous, cruel regime. If most Russian people felt free to express their views without getting murdered or imprisoned, I feel they'd mirror my opinion of their leadership.

your point has merit but why didn't you object to the idiotic claims that those who voted for Trump were choosing Russia over America?

 

[lurchadams]

In a presidential election you are forced to choose unless you are an "undisclosed" who sits on the fence and supports nothing and no one

I compared hillary to trump and chose trump hands down

That is not responsive at all to the post to which you just replied. But nevertheless, good for you.

 

[lurchadams]

Trump has respect for the office he holds

But the rabid leftwing chooses to given him an rectal exam each morning looking for any fact or fiction that they can bash him for

I respectfully disagree with your first sentence, all his behavior projects a total disrespect for the office. Your second sentence is only a symptom of your stark hatred of anyone who criticizes Trump. Like many Trump supporters you take any criticism of Trump personally.

 

[Mac77]

That is not responsive at all to the post to which you just replied. But nevertheless, good for you.

So how do you choose?

Just flip and coin with the democrats head on both sides?

 

[Slingshot Bob]

Having pissed off the media. When Nixon was asked if he had regrets, he replied "I would of been nicer to the Media" Of course, this was before the internet age!

 

[lurchadams]

your point has merit but why didn't you object to the idiotic claims that those who voted for Trump were choosing Russia over America?

What you're referring to is an oversimplification of what critics of Trump feel about his perceived admiration of Putin. There is also a perception by most liberals and some conservatives that Trump and his team have acted suspiciously regarding their contacts with Russian government officials both prior to and after the election.

It's similar to critics of Obama saying a vote for Obama is a vote for socialism. Or that a vote for Obama is a vote for terrorism.

 

[lurchadams]

So how do you choose?

Just flip and coin with the democrats head on both sides?

I voted for HRC because I felt she was the lesser of two evils. My main motivator was SCOTUS. I feel a hard core, conservative SCOTUS will further damage the nation.

 

[Hawkeye10]

What you're referring to is an oversimplification of what critics of Trump feel about his perceived admiration of Putin. There is also a perception by most liberals and some conservatives that Trump and his team have acted suspiciously regarding their contacts with Russian government officials both prior to and after the election.

It's similar to critics of Obama saying a vote for Obama is a vote for socialism. Or that a vote for Obama is a vote for terrorism.

And dont presume men innocent till/unless evidence of wrong doing turns up, as least not if those people are politically repulsive to them.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" being something that they were never educated enough to run into.

WE USED TO BE BETTER

 

[TurtleDude]

I voted for HRC because I felt she was the lesser of two evils. My main motivator was SCOTUS. I feel a hard core, conservative SCOTUS will further damage the nation.

I want a SCOTUS that enforces McDonald V Chicago on the anti gun democrat states and to get a couple more justices who would support the scalia-Thomas-Alito views on the AHCA

 

[lurchadams]

And dont presume men innocent till/unless evidence of wrong doing turns up, as least not if those people are politically repulsive to them.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" being something that they were never educated enough to run into.

See the bolded, "they". Who is or are the, "they"?

 

[Hawkeye10]

See the bolded, "they". Who is or are the, "they"?

Tens of millions of ignorant Trump Haters.

If you are waiting for me to surrender the high ground on the fact that I like Trump then you have and will continue to wait a long time I spect.

 

[lurchadams]

I want a SCOTUS that enforces McDonald V Chicago on the anti gun democrat states and to get a couple more justices who would support the scalia-Thomas-Alito views on the AHCA

Well, it appears you're going to get exactly what you want.

I personally feel the "Citizens United" decision, which effectively allows corporations and the wealthy to purchase politicians at the expense of the common person, has done the nation incredible harm.

 

[TurtleDude]

Well, it appears you're going to get exactly what you want.

I personally feel the "Citizens United" decision, which effectively allows corporations and the wealthy to purchase politicians at the expense of the common person, has done the nation incredible harm.

as opposed to unions and the MSM being able to buy politicians and the right has no way of fighting back?

 

[lurchadams]

Tens of millions of ignorant Trump Haters.

If you are waiting for me to surrender the high ground on the fact that I like Trump then you have and will continue to wait a long time I spect.

Well at least you didn't say, "all critics of Trump". That's something, I guess.

Not sure what you mean with your second sentence (bolded). Are you saying you're an admirer of Trump and that you think I'm going to try to get you to change your mind?

 

[Hawkeye10]

Well at least you didn't say, "all critics of Trump". That's something, I guess.

Not sure what you mean with your second sentence (bolded). Are you saying you're an admirer of Trump and that you think I'm going to try to get you to change your mind?

No I am saying that those who hate Trump tend to think of themselves as the Universe's gift to humans.....all smart and pure of course.....and those who like Trump as the opposite.

Ya, No.

 

[lurchadams]

as opposed to unions and the MSM being able to buy politicians and the right has no way of fighting back?

In my opinion, unions have been so weakened by corporate pressure and fear of jobs being shipped overseas they've been rendered ineffective.

Regarding your opinion of the influence of the MSM:

1. If the "liberal media" is so powerful, then how does one explain:
a. Trump's victory over Clinton; and
b. The Democrat's loss of the last 4 special elections?