[W:153] Trump assaults Congressman Elijah Cummings, says his district is 'infested'

[haymarket]

And how did those polling results work out for you in 2016. Intelligent people do not live and die by opinion polls. I read the polls in the 2016 race, however I compared the excitement and crowd sizes of the Trump rallies versus the lack of such at the hildabeast rallies. Based on that, I doubted the polls. Same goes with Obama in the 2008 race. McCain just could not match the energy the Obama campaign had.

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Excellently as they were right on the money. It was the travesty of the Electoral College that did not work as it was suppose to.

 

[sjmay]

You are talking nonsense. That is not the system we have and no rational person is advocating it as it would only make the situation far far far worse than even it is now.

39 million people in California and less than a million is some other states and you have the absurdity to tout a ridiculous system where both are equal in weight because in your fantasy all states are equal. Does the TWILIGHT ZONE theme play when you write these posts?

LOL so you don't want the NATIONAL vote to matter, you want select REGIONAL votes to matter,

Why didn't you say so?

 

[haymarket]

LOL so you don't want the NATIONAL vote to matter, you want select REGIONAL votes to matter,

Why didn't you say so?

You are not making any sense on any level.

 

[sjmay]

You are talking nonsense. That is not the system we have and no rational person is advocating it as it would only make the situation far far far worse than even it is now.

Explain yourself,

Explain how making 1 state worth 1 EC vote, makes the situation FAR FAR FAR FAR WORSE.

You said it yourself, as it is right now, a candidate needs only to win ELEVEN states.....out of 50....if you make each state worth 1 EC vote, bare minimum they have to win 26,

Is that not better?

 

[gdgyva]

I guess that would be Hell for you wouldn't it? Then you would have to reverse everything you ever said about the Electoral College nd join the campaign to abolish it. That would seriously cause some internal problems.

the chance of California turning republican is slim to none

the chance of New York switching to republican is slim to none

i dont need to even talk about the other states....that comprises approx 50+ million people there

and slim...he has been outta town for a LONG LONG time

 

[sjmay]

You are not making any sense on any level.

No, I am making perfect sense,

The problem is, you don't want to come right out and admit it, you want the popular vote because you want places like NYC, Los Angeles, Dallas, Chicago, San Fransisco to pick the President.

You aren't against the EC per se, you are against the Republicans winning.

 

[haymarket]

Explain yourself,

Explain how making 1 state worth 1 EC vote, makes the situation FAR FAR FAR FAR WORSE.

You said it yourself, as it is right now, a candidate needs only to win ELEVEN states.....out of 50....if you make each state worth 1 EC vote, bare minimum they have to win 26,

Is that not better?

The disparity now is by a factor of three and four when you compare the largest state of California to the smallest in Wyoming. You would give each state 1 vote and the disparity becomes over 40 to 1 instead of there or four to one.

Again - STATES DO NOT VOTE - PEOPLE VOTE.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Excellently as they were right on the money. It was the travesty of the Electoral College that did not work as it was suppose to.

Again you are in chronic denial. The same pollsters who gave you those national popular votes also did state by state polls and used those results to predict the outcome of the election. They gave Trump about a 16% chance if winning the election.....and that was all the way to election day. So again, how did those polls work out for you? Your girl lost!

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[haymarket]

Again you are in chronic denial. The same pollsters who gave you those national popular votes also did state by state polls and used those results to predict the outcome of the election. They gave Trump about a 16% chance if winning the election.....and that was all the way to election day. So again, how did those polls work out for you? Your girl lost!

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already discussed and refuted in 1351 which apparently you failed to comprehend.

 

[sjmay]

The disparity now is by a factor of three and four when you compare the largest state of California to the smallest in Wyoming. You would give each state 1 vote and the disparity becomes over 40 to 1 instead of there or four to one.

Again - STATES DO NOT VOTE - PEOPLE VOTE.

No....States do vote.....apparently you don't understand how the United STATES of America is set up......weird, I thought you said you taught this crap.

 

[haymarket]

No....States do vote.....apparently you don't understand how the United STATES of America is set up......weird, I thought you said you taught this crap.

Electors are PEOPLE. People vote - not states.

 

[sjmay]

Electors are PEOPLE. People vote - not states.

LOL again, I thought you taught this stuff.....

Let's ask this, do you think the founding fathers wanted a popular vote like you are suggesting? You don't think they could have just done that instead?

 

[haymarket]

LOL again, I thought you taught this stuff.....

Let's ask this, do you think the founding fathers wanted a popular vote like you are suggesting? You don't think they could have just done that instead?

You can take your snide condescending attitude about my teaching and pacee it where the sun doesn't shine.

When you want to get serious and not personally insulting - crawl on back and prove yourself. Until them - go iff into a corner and play with your best friend.

 

[MAGAnificent]

already discussed and refuted in 1351 which apparently you failed to comprehend.

Your usual dodge when are cornered in an argument.

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[haymarket]

Your usual dodge when are cornered in an argument.

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You don't like the truth.

 

[sjmay]

You can take your snide condescending attitude about my teaching and pacee it where the sun doesn't shine.

When you want to get serious and not personally insulting - crawl on back and prove yourself. Until them - go iff into a corner and play with your best friend.

Hey, you are the one that can't grasp the STATES in The United STATES of America,

Just ****ing admit it man,

You want the select few, to elect the President, people who live in LA, NYC, Dallas, Chicago, San Francicso.

The REASON you hate the EC is because the Republicans won,

The REASON you hate, one state = one EC, is because Republicans might win....

You don't want one vote to have the same power, you want your way, and you are pissed that you don't get it.

 

[haymarket]

Hey, you are the one that can't grasp the STATES in The United STATES of America,

Just ****ing admit it man,

You want the select few, to elect the President, people who live in LA, NYC, Dallas, Chicago, San Francicso.

The REASON you hate the EC is because the Republicans won,

The REASON you hate, one state = one EC, is because Republicans might win....

You don't want one vote to have the same power, you want your way, and you are pissed that you don't get it.

STATES do not vote for President. People vote for President.

btw - I have been against the EC since I was in the sixth grade and first heard about it and that was during the 1960 election. And then it had not happened in that century so it had nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans winning. It is about the unfairness and inequality of the system designed to thwart the will of the people.

Of course I do not want each state to have one vote for the mathematical reason already explained to you. It takes a current problem and makes it much much worse.

Any rational person would understand that math and move on.

But you do not. You keep repeating crap like it is written on Moses set of the Ten Commandments and expect its carrying some sort of weight here when it has been repeatedly refuted.

 

[BahamaBob]

Unlike you, I do not want to separate voters by geography or urban and rural and I want all votes to count the same.

So you support voter IDs to make sure they are all legitimate.

 

[sjmay]

STATES do not vote for President. People vote for President.

btw - I have been against the EC since I was in the sixth grade and first heard about it and that was during the 1960 election. And then it had not happened in that century so it had nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans winning. It is about the unfairness and inequality of the system designed to thwart the will of the people.

Of course I do not want each state to have one vote for the mathematical reason already explained to you. It takes a current problem and makes it much much worse.

Any rational person would understand that math and move on.

But you do not. You keep repeating crap like it is written on Moses set of the Ten Commandments and expect its carrying some sort of weight here when it has been repeatedly refuted.

You do not want one vote to have the same power, what you want is concentrated areas of democrats to elect the President.

You don't understand WHY the Founding Fathers REJECTED that idea.....

Of course you don't want each state to have one vote.....and it has nothing to do with the mathematical reason you gave, it's simply because you know even doing that, Democrats are only concentrated in a few suburban areas, you want people in Los Angeles to be able to dictate to people in New Mexico, how to live.

 

[haymarket]

So you support voter IDs to make sure they are all legitimate.

I think every voter must identify themselves to be a voter.

 

[haymarket]

You do not want one vote to have the same power, what you want is concentrated areas of democrats to elect the President.

You don't understand WHY the Founding Fathers REJECTED that idea.....

Of course you don't want each state to have one vote.....and it has nothing to do with the mathematical reason you gave, it's simply because you know even doing that, Democrats are only concentrated in a few suburban areas, you want people in Los Angeles to be able to dictate to people in New Mexico, how to live.

You keep repeating the same refuted nonsense that makes no sense on any level.

 

[sjmay]

You keep repeating the same refuted nonsense that makes no sense on any level.

It's not refuted, bud, you are showing it.

You say you don't want people in Wymoing to have a 40 to 1 voting power over the voter in CA....right?

If you put each state up for grabs, that doesn't happen, the most a state can do...is 1 EC vote.....so the WYOMING VOTER vote....is worth JUST as much as the CA voter's vote because it's ONE EC vote that they are voting for.

Instead of California getting 55 and New York 28 etc....

 

[BahamaBob]

This is how Pussified this country is getting. They don't keep score in kids games because some little weenies can't accept losing. Now this everyone gets a trophy crowd has their panties in a bunch. They lost and they can't cope with it. There is so much TDS over Trump's victory that the losers want to change the rules. If you can't win under the rules the game has been played with for over 200 years, the rules must be the reason. You see that is the way of the weenie. They don't want to put in the work it takes to win under the rules. They run to their mommies and have the rules changed so they have an advantage.

If whining was votes the Dims would never lose.

 

[haymarket]

It's not refuted, bud, you are showing it.

You say you don't want people in Wymoing to have a 40 to 1 voting power over the voter in CA....right?

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wrong

I want every single American no matter where they live - California, Wyoming, Indiana - anywhere to have the same vote with the same weight and the same power and to have the votes of the American people determine who is president the same way that every other office is America is determined so that we can live up to the idea of Lincoln - a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. One person - one vote with all votes being equal and nobody vote weighed any more or less than any other voter.

No amount of fancy double talk you pretend to engage in can make 39 million people equal in voting power to less than a million people. It just does not add up or make sense.

It is nonsense. It is garbage. It is insanity.

That is not the system we have - it only makes matters much much works.

A popular vote is the only way to go.

 

[Cougarbear]

"Most liberals"? That broad brush stripped you of credibility.

It's not broad enough! All liberals are closet racists. Not sorry if that hits close to home. What I truly find repulsive is that liberals and Demorats want to keep blacks and Hispanics in their ghettos so they can make them their slaves to count on their votes. When people have just enough to live, not enough to ever get ahead and give them everything to just barely get by with, they will vote for their task bearers. Their new slave owners, the black politicians in the large inner black cities and the Congresspersons in their districts like Cummings. $18 billion dollars given to Baltimore and not one rat was exterminated. And, you come up with some stupid broad brush comment.