[W:153] Trump assaults Congressman Elijah Cummings, says his district is 'infested'

[Cougarbear]

It's not refuted, bud, you are showing it.

You say you don't want people in Wymoing to have a 40 to 1 voting power over the voter in CA....right?

If you put each state up for grabs, that doesn't happen, the most a state can do...is 1 EC vote.....so the WYOMING VOTER vote....is worth JUST as much as the CA voter's vote because it's ONE EC vote that they are voting for.

Instead of California getting 55 and New York 28 etc....

I like that idea with 35 red states, Republicans should keep the White House for a while.

 

[sjmay]

wrong

I want every single American no matter where they live - California, Wyoming, Indiana - anywhere to have the same vote with the same weight and the same power and to have the votes of the American people determine who is president the same way that every other office is America is determined so that we can live up to the idea of Lincoln - a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. One person - one vote with all votes being equal and nobody vote weighed any more or less than any other voter.

No amount of fancy double talk you pretend to engage in can make 39 million people equal in voting power to less than a million people. It just does not add up or make sense.

It is nonsense. It is garbage. It is insanity.

That is not the system we have - it only makes matters much much works.

A popular vote is the only way to go.

Perfect, so then you are good with 1 state = 1 EC, that absolutely gets rid of your voting power issue, and keeps the minority of the...NATION from exercising complete power. Amazing how that works.

Only way you would be against that is if you don't want votes in less populated states...to matter.

 

[MAGAnificent]

You don't like the truth.

You would not know the truth if it bit you on the backside.

 

[CLAX1911]

Trump Assails Elijah Cummings, Calling His Congressional District a Rat-Infested ‘Mess’ - The New York Times

[h=1]Trump Assails Elijah Cummings, Calling His Congressional District a Rat-Infested ‘Mess’[/h]
WASHINGTON — President Trump lashed out at a leading African-American congressman on Saturday, calling him “a brutal bully” who represents a Baltimore-based district that has become a “disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess” where “no human being would want to live.”


Mr. Trump’s attack on Representative Elijah E. Cummings, a Democrat from Maryland and leading critic of the president, parroted a segment that aired earlier in the morning on “Fox & Friends.” The president suggested that the congressman was a hypocrite for criticizing conditions in migrant detention centers at the southwestern border when his own district is blighted. Mr. Trump also made a vague and unsubstantiated insinuation of corruption.
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Once again, Trump attacked a Black member of Congress. Let me just say, that Elijah Cummings is one of the most respected man in Washington if not the most respected man in Congress. Elijah Cummings isn't the only member of Congress that voted for impeachment, but he may be the only Chairman of a Congressional Committee to do so. It's noted that Trump didn't rail on any of the white members of Congress via Twitter.

Victor Blackwell gave an emotional response, illustrating Trump's knack for using 'ping' words such as 'infested' to appeal to his racist base. Anyone that defends this immoral, unpatriotic, morally bankrupt president is on the ugly side of history.

Good Elijah Cummings and all the municipal government there should be ashamed of themselves for allowing their City to fall into such a state.

Good job Trump for calling out scumbags drain that swamp. Pay no attention to the swamp monsters.

 

[MAGAnificent]

You do not want one vote to have the same power, what you want is concentrated areas of democrats to elect the President.

You don't understand WHY the Founding Fathers REJECTED that idea.....

Of course you don't want each state to have one vote.....and it has nothing to do with the mathematical reason you gave, it's simply because you know even doing that, Democrats are only concentrated in a few suburban areas, you want people in Los Angeles to be able to dictate to people in New Mexico, how to live.

Deep down he understands that those concentrated voters in that group of big cities would make the votes in most states meaningless under a popular vote system. He does not care. He is just emotionally unable to accept defeat. If not for the popular vote margin in 2000 NS 2016, he would likely be incessantly whining about the Diebold voting machines or Voter ID laws.

 

[haymarket]

Perfect, so then you are good with 1 state = 1 EC, that absolutely gets rid of your voting power issue, and keeps the minority of the...NATION from exercising complete power. Amazing how that works.

Only way you would be against that is if you don't want votes in less populated states...to matter.

You make no sense and are simply repeating trash already taken to the dump.

 

[haymarket]

You would not know the truth if it bit you on the backside.

Is that you back there? I knew I felt something.

 

[Oborosen]

I must admit that you are a legend......


..... in your own mind.

If that's all you have haymarket, then you still have nothing.

If you flee from everyone that challenges your fragile world view, this wouldn't be an issue.

 

[Oborosen]

You have not done so once.

Trump is a racist and has blood on his hands for his hateful bigotry and xenophobia.

Something that you actually can't prove. Because if it was true for that simple fact of what he's said.

Then nearly every democratic candidate who is running this time around, and most of the rest of the DNC would have the same blood on their hands.

But seeing as you still can't actually prove any of this without citing opinion. Your faux rage is going to keep falling on deaf ears. Save for those that inhabit that echo chamber of yours.

 

[Oborosen]

You want me to provide proof of the Republican party not holding Trump accountable? Whoever you are, that is called proving a negative and is a mistake that we train seventh graders to avoid. Furthermore, when people say things like, "Prove that the Republicans are petrified of the president and impotent cowards who are powerless against him," or, "Prove that Trump has ever lied," then I know that they are trolling. By responding to such unhappy, adolescent behavior, I can't imagine a more worthless and miserable way to spend my time than to be the unclever person doing the trolling in the first place.

So you're just going to claim that I'm trolling, or asking you to prove a negative. Then do nothing but tuck tail and run?

Great, I should be used to that kind of reaction when I ask for any kind of proof at this point.

 

[haymarket]

If that's all you have haymarket, then you still have nothing.

If you flee from everyone that challenges your fragile world view, this wouldn't be an issue.

Your imaginary status is all you have you mean.

 

[haymarket]

Something that you actually can't prove.

A mountain of proof has been provided. You just opt to hide your head in the sand ostrich like and pretend it is not there.

 

[sjmay]

You make no sense and are simply repeating trash already taken to the dump.

It is what it is, you are simply scared to admit what is in plain sight,

You don't want one vote to matter, you only what DEMOCRAT votes to matter, be intellectually honest enough with yourself to admit that.

Everyone can see it anyways, the only one denying it is you.

 

[RedSunRising]

So you're just going to claim that I'm trolling, or asking you to prove a negative. Then do nothing but tuck tail and run?

Great, I should be used to that kind of reaction when I ask for any kind of proof at this point.

Ummm. You take good care now.

To the rest of the forum: Is this normal? I've encountered five, maybe six, posters who don't make any sense (based on posts directed toward me as well as toward other people). I can't claim a personal slight, but is it typical for DP posters to just espouse a left versus right, or vice versa, rant that doesn't even relate to the original post's point? I'd hate to waste my time, but this site has or had a reasonably good reputation.

 

[haymarket]

It is what it is, you are simply scared to admit what is in plain sight,

You don't want one vote to matter, you only what DEMOCRAT votes to matter, be intellectually honest enough with yourself to admit that.

Everyone can see it anyways, the only one denying it is you.

Under a popular vote system, it does not matter where the vote is cast as every vote is equal and every vote potentially is the winning margin of victory. Under the present electoral system, only eleven states are theoretically necessary to win and all the others are rendered potentially irrelevant.

 

[haymarket]

Ummm. You take good care now.

To the rest of the forum: Is this normal? I've encountered five, maybe six, posters who don't make any sense (based on posts directed toward me as well as toward other people). I can't claim a personal slight, but is it typical for DP posters to just espouse a left versus right, or vice versa, rant that doesn't even relate to the original post's point? I'd hate to waste my time, but this site has or had a reasonably good reputation.

Yes my friend, sadly, this is normal from some people who try to personalize everything.

 

[sjmay]

Under a popular vote system, it does not matter where the vote is cast as every vote is equal and every vote potentially is the winning margin of victory. Under the present electoral system, only eleven states are theoretically necessary to win and all the others are rendered potentially irrelevant.

Yep, and you want to change that to make it worse,

You want to make it 11 COUNTIES....in the country....and somehow you think that makes things better...

 

[haymarket]

Yep, and you want to change that to make it worse,

You want to make it 11 COUNTIES....in the country....and somehow you think that makes things better...

Under a popular vote system ALL COUNTIES voters will count equally and potentially be the winning margin.

 

[sjmay]

Under a popular vote system ALL COUNTIES voters will count equally and potentially be the winning margin.

LOL It's cute that you think that, or believe that,

But that's just as false as saying under the EC you only need 11 states.....

Again, you don't care where the votes come from, you just want democrats votes to matter more....be man enough to admit it and move on, that's all anyone is asking of you.

The reason you dont like the EC isn't because it is unfair....it's because you lost because your side didn't do due diligence, and got lazy, and lost, and you can't handle that....so now, you want to simply eliminate the vote in small states as irrelevant.

EDIT: Just to hammer the point, LA County is the most populous COUNTY in the USA, it dwarfs the STATES of Wyoming, Vermont, Alaska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Delaware, Rhode Island, Montana, Maine, New Hampshire, Hawaii, Idaho, West Virginia, Nebraska, New Mexico, Kansas, Mississippi, Arkansas, Nevada, Iowa, Utah, Conneticut, Oklahoma, Oregon, Kentucky, Louisana, Alabama, South Carolina, etc

Would have been easier to say if LA COUNTY was a state,it would be the 10th most populated state, so you want to say that area is more important for voting, than 80% of the current States...think about that.

 

[haymarket]

But that's just as false as saying under the EC you only need 11 states.....

Under the present Electoral College system - that is a fact.

 

[sjmay]

Under the present Electoral College system - that is a fact.

And what you want is for 53 counties of over 3012 in the United States, to decide the President,

Yep, that's just as fair as the EC isn't it?

 

[Oborosen]

Ummm. You take good care now.

To the rest of the forum: Is this normal? I've encountered five, maybe six, posters who don't make any sense (based on posts directed toward me as well as toward other people). I can't claim a personal slight, but is it typical for DP posters to just espouse a left versus right, or vice versa, rant that doesn't even relate to the original post's point? I'd hate to waste my time, but this site has or had a reasonably good reputation.

That's right, start spouting fallacy... not really surprised at this point.

 

[haymarket]

And what you want is for 53 counties of over 3012 in the United States, to decide the President,

Yep, that's just as fair as the EC isn't it?

NO - I want all of the votes in all of the counties to count the same and I want all of them to be the potential one that decides an election.

 

[sjmay]

NO - I want all of the votes in all of the counties to count the same and I want all of them to be the potential one that decides an election.

So you are of the thought that you want no states.....you want one nation but no states...

 

[haymarket]

So you are of the thought that you want no states.....you want one nation but no states...

Where did I say that? Please quote the post and reproduce it.