Respect for Men

[Bodi]

One of (if not the most important) thing you can do for your man is to respect him. If you're getting your ideas of how to treat a man from TV sitcoms (think Everybody Loves Raymond, King of Queens, etc.), then you're doing it wrong. Men don't deserve to be called idiots or treated like children. Respect their opinions, their wants and needs and what makes them different than you.

That's it. Discuss amongst yourselves.

I don't agree with a lot of Dr. Laura Schlessenger but she has a great book called:

The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands

She outlines how poorly many women treat their man. How They constantly find fault in meaningless things. How they put men down. They don't seem to realize how simple and easy men are... because women are complicated. Men want sex, food, sleep and a bit of fun but what we most want is to take care of our family and children. When men are put down or given all these confusing rules they start to shut down.

Example. Wife asked me to take out the garbage while I was doing something. OK. I'll do it. A while later she comes back mad that I did not take out the garbage. I said that I was going to do it. She said it was too late, that I was irresponsible and that she shouldn't have to remind me of things. I said that I was going to do it, I don't understand the problem. She said that she needed it down when she asked. I said that if she would have said can you take out the garbage now, I would have just jumped up and did it but because I was doing something else I was going to do it after. She said she should have to tell me when but I said that if she does not tell me the urgency then I don't know that there is urgency. I challenged her to tell me the need next time... which she did. I just jumped up from what I was doing and did it. It hit me that I went over this and I told her how simple it was... she didn't learn.

Anyway... men are simple. We want to please. We want our woman happy. We want our kids safe. That is what we want. If she is not happy we are unhappy. If she makes it difficult to please her then we don't know what to do. Just some thoughts.

 

[Hawkeye10]

I don't agree with a lot of Dr. Laura Schlessenger but she has a great book called:

The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands

She outlines how poorly many women treat their man. How They constantly find fault in meaningless things. How they put men down. They don't seem to realize how simple and easy men are... because women are complicated. Men want sex, food, sleep and a bit of fun but what we most want is to take care of our family and children. When men are put down or given all these confusing rules they start to shut down.

Example. Wife asked me to take out the garbage while I was doing something. OK. I'll do it. A while later she comes back mad that I did not take out the garbage. I said that I was going to do it. She said it was too late, that I was irresponsible and that she shouldn't have to remind me of things. I said that I was going to do it, I don't understand the problem. She said that she needed it down when she asked. I said that if she would have said can you take out the garbage now, I would have just jumped up and did it but because I was doing something else I was going to do it after. She said she should have to tell me when but I said that if she does not tell me the urgency then I don't know that there is urgency. I challenged her to tell me the need next time... which she did. I just jumped up from what I was doing and did it. It hit me that I went over this and I told her how simple it was... she didn't learn.

Anyway... men are simple. We want to please. We want our woman happy. We want our kids safe. That is what we want. If she is not happy we are unhappy. If she makes it difficult to please her then we don't know what to do. Just some thoughts.

Oh God, must men joint women in the infirmary?

Hawkeye says "no".

 

[Bodi]

Oh God, must men joint women in the infirmary?

Hawkeye says "no".

I am not sure what this means but I am inclined to say no as well... :lol:

 

[Hawkeye10]

I am not sure what this means but I am inclined to say no as well... :lol:

Do not give me the line "men are simple idiots, deal" and expect me to be ok with it. Men tend to get used and abused by women because we tend to not understand our mates or our relationships or how power works in relationship......a situation that women are counting on continuing btw...... but there is no inherent reason it needs to be like that. Men can learn, the problem is that all to often were never learn what we need to learn about so that we can stand up for ourselves.

And our boys. .

 

[Absentglare]

Because that's what Josie chose to focus the thread on? There's already a "Respect for Women" thread by Gathomas focusing on that side of the coin, so I believe that's the reason why she chose to focus the thread on "Respect for Men".

But that's entirely irrelevant, really. The fact remains that nobody in here is saying respect should only go to men.

I'm asking in particular about her reasoning: men should not be treated like male characters on TV shows. I don't think women should be treated like female characters on TV shows either. She specified men, and i'm asking why she's specifying men. If there's an actual answer, it should be easy to provide. It sounds like you're all hostile because there is no answer. Why is that my fault ?

 

[Absentglare]

Yes, women deserve respect, and, yes, women being stereotyped as imbeciles in media would be wrong (if it were something which actually happened - it's not).

Are you happy now?

Your argument is that women have never been stereotyped as imbeciles in media ...?

You cannot seriously claim something so silly. I don't believe it.

We're wondering why in the Hell you're going deliberately out of your way to try and derail the thread by accusing people of saying things they never did.

I don't know, why are you trying to further derail the thread with my motives ?

Because this is an issue primarily relating to men, not women. Again, why do you people seem to think these are conversations we're not allowed to have?

No it isn't, and the solution isn't either. That's the point. I don't see why they're being selected.

 

[TheGoverness]

I'm asking in particular about her reasoning: men should not be treated like male characters on TV shows. I don't think women should be treated like female characters on TV shows either. She specified men, and i'm asking why she's specifying men. If there's an actual answer, it should be easy to provide. It sounds like you're all hostile because there is no answer. Why is that my fault ?

Because you made a bunch of false assumptions. That's why.

 

[Bodi]

Do not give me the line "men are simple idiots, deal" and expect me to be ok with it. Men tend to get used and abused by women because we tend to not understand our mates or our relationships or how power works in relationship......a situation that women are counting on continuing btw...... but there is no inherent reason it needs to be like that. Men can learn, the problem is that all to often were never learn what we need to learn about so that we can stand up for ourselves.

And our boys. .

Women over complicate things... that is the problem. Men are simple but that is not an excuse... it is a reason why things get complicated. Women create problems where none exist and generally due to their feelings. Men can learn, and we do...

 

[Josie]

I don't agree with a lot of Dr. Laura Schlessenger but she has a great book called:

The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands

She outlines how poorly many women treat their man. How They constantly find fault in meaningless things. How they put men down. They don't seem to realize how simple and easy men are... because women are complicated. Men want sex, food, sleep and a bit of fun but what we most want is to take care of our family and children. When men are put down or given all these confusing rules they start to shut down.

Example. Wife asked me to take out the garbage while I was doing something. OK. I'll do it. A while later she comes back mad that I did not take out the garbage. I said that I was going to do it. She said it was too late, that I was irresponsible and that she shouldn't have to remind me of things. I said that I was going to do it, I don't understand the problem. She said that she needed it down when she asked. I said that if she would have said can you take out the garbage now, I would have just jumped up and did it but because I was doing something else I was going to do it after. She said she should have to tell me when but I said that if she does not tell me the urgency then I don't know that there is urgency. I challenged her to tell me the need next time... which she did. I just jumped up from what I was doing and did it. It hit me that I went over this and I told her how simple it was... she didn't learn.

Anyway... men are simple. We want to please. We want our woman happy. We want our kids safe. That is what we want. If she is not happy we are unhappy. If she makes it difficult to please her then we don't know what to do. Just some thoughts.

Yeah, when women say "Will you .........?" it usually means "right now".

You have to be masters at communicating with each other. Everyone's different and you have to learn how to talk to your partner to keep arguments and miscommunication at bay.

 

[Josie]

I'm asking in particular about her reasoning: men should not be treated like male characters on TV shows. I don't think women should be treated like female characters on TV shows either. She specified men, and i'm asking why she's specifying men. If there's an actual answer, it should be easy to provide. It sounds like you're all hostile because there is no answer. Why is that my fault ?

Oh, for the love of God. It's painfully obvious to everyone else in this thread except you. You're just bored and wanting to fight. No thanks.

 

[Josie]

Women over complicate things... that is the problem. Men are simple but that is not an excuse... it is a reason why things get complicated. Women create problems where none exist and generally due to their feelings. Men can learn, and we do...

I wouldn't say all women are like that, but I know I tend to get a little neurotic at times and over-analyze things. I've dated guys who do that too, though.

 

[Gathomas88]

I don't know, why are you trying to further derail the thread with my motives ?

How about you just stop posting entirely and we call it even. :roll:

 

[danielpalos]

Only Bad girls have no respect for men.

 

[Henrin]

I'm asking in particular about her reasoning: men should not be treated like male characters on TV shows. I don't think women should be treated like female characters on TV shows either. She specified men, and i'm asking why she's specifying men. If there's an actual answer, it should be easy to provide. It sounds like you're all hostile because there is no answer. Why is that my fault ?

Is there a reason you won't make this line of reasoning it's own thread? How about in that thread you talk about what you object to when it comes to how women are treated on TV? Personally, I can't think of anything that shines a negative light on women on TV, but apparently you can, so you should make a thread about it.

 

[Bodi]

I wouldn't say all women are like that, but I know I tend to get a little neurotic at times and over-analyze things. I've dated guys who do that too, though.

Of course not... I was generalizing. Some women are extremely logical and some men are hysterical drama queens...

 

[Josie]

Of course not... I was generalizing. Some women are extremely logical and some men are hysterical drama queens...

I went on one date with a hysterical drama queen. Granted, I didn't know he was one until after I told him I wasn't interested. He was shocked. He spent an hour begging me for another date, telling me he'd already told all of his friends about me and how great we were for each other. It came out of nowhere and definitely showed me that my first instincts were correct.

 

[Harshaw]

I'm asking in particular about her reasoning: men should not be treated like male characters on TV shows. I don't think women should be treated like female characters on TV shows either. She specified men, and i'm asking why she's specifying men. If there's an actual answer, it should be easy to provide. It sounds like you're all hostile because there is no answer. Why is that my fault ?

 

[Absentglare]

Because you made a bunch of false assumptions. That's why.

I'm going by the OP. Did you read the OP ?

 

[Absentglare]

Oh, for the love of God. It's painfully obvious to everyone else in this thread except you. You're just bored and wanting to fight. No thanks.

What are you talking about ? Why are you getting upset about explaining your own reasoning ?

 

[Absentglare]

Is there a reason you won't make this line of reasoning it's own thread? How about in that thread you talk about what you object to when it comes to how women are treated on TV? Personally, I can't think of anything that shines a negative light on women on TV, but apparently you can, so you should make a thread about it.

Are you saying that challenging the wisdom of this thread is not within the context of this thread ?

Is that a serious accusation ?

 

[Henrin]

Are you saying that challenging the wisdom of this thread is not within the context of this thread ?

Is that a serious accusation ?

I'm saying this thread is not about women. How many times does that need to be said to you? If you wish to talk about women and how they are portrayed on TV you should start a thread about it.

 

[Bodi]

I went on one date with a hysterical drama queen. Granted, I didn't know he was one until after I told him I wasn't interested. He was shocked. He spent an hour begging me for another date, telling me he'd already told all of his friends about me and how great we were for each other. It came out of nowhere and definitely showed me that my first instincts were correct.

Jeez... what a ninny. Him.

Women ask me out and if they dont they know they made a mistake.

 

[RetiredNSmilin]

Dude who cares? As long as it's consenting adults in private, they should be able to do just about anything they want, no matter how distasteful you may find it.

No argument about that.

However, at a club sponsored event, there are rules.

The buzz words, safe, sane and consensual are all fine, except when a play party is in someone's home as a club sponsored event, not so much.

One couple was asked to leave because she was suspended by her wrists ( big no no) and then the guy started punching her with his fist in the kidneys, and elsewhere.
Yes, that was consentual, but not SANE. They were asked/told to get the hell out.

 

[Josie]

Because you made a bunch of false assumptions. That's why.

I'm going by the OP. Did you read the OP ?

We all did, A. What YOU did is you read it and immediately jumped to conclusions that weren't presented at all. If the OP said "Tennessee is beautiful in the fall!" you would say "How DARE you insult Connecticut!!!!!11" Do you honestly not see how completely ridiculous you are being here?

 

[TheGoverness]

I'm going by the OP. Did you read the OP ?

I read it. Doesn't change the fact that you made a bunch of false assumptions in the process.

You assumed Josie was saying only men deserved respect. You assumed she thought it was OK to protray women on TV as bimbos and idiots.