Report: At least 3 killed, shooter dead, after attack at California school

[FastPace]

I wonder if this approach would work? Hmmmm, let's see, when have we tried doing this in the past? Let's substitute alcohol for guns in your sentence. Or or or! Heroin!

Like if it is a heroin problem lets ban all heroin and have all homes and properties searched for them, all heroin found confiscated, and all heroin destroyed.

We have no more heroin in the US now, right? (And that even ignores the rampant Constitutional infringements implied in your sentence).

I'm not for banning guns in the USA. I was drawing attention to the fact I doubt poster #1 is willing to go to any length to stop these shooting. And I doubt any pro-gun or anti-gun person is.

Whether we are pro-gun or anti-gun we want what we want and all else and all others be damned. It's pretty much that simple. The little children have to suffer because of us adults.

Something is wrong in American society. Society. None of this BS "individuals." The individuals are a product of the society. And neither pro-gun or ant-gun people want to address that because at the end of the day--like those addicted to heroin--we all in America revel in our sins and the sheer wickedness running rampant through the USA. Bottom line. The "mental health problem" is from a society so wicked and obtuse towards millions of suffering Americans it creates over years broken people in heart and mind.

The anti-gun people are so hooked on American evils--like a heroin addict that loves the heroin and its high feeling but hates and fears the consequences--that they want most firearms band. Some even want all firearms band. It's their community condom or community abortion.

Pro-gun people want to have guns--but also a wicked society--but and so out comes the "mental health" song and dance. Because they know they are not going to support the US Government intruding in every American's life at tax payer expense, demand psychologist check you off as okay every x number of months. So it's a song that can be sung without anything ever getting done: "The Government [or "we"] need really do solve the mental health problem in this country!" Yeah? How? All of a sudden Republicans want the Government to be taking the lead in solving health problems. All of a sudden now the US Government is responsible for every US citizen.

In even higher numbers, people are injured and killed by personal vehicles everyday in the USA. Everyday. All across the country.

So why arent we implementing your solution for that? (er, and we dont 'need' cars, not to the extent that we use them constantly here in the US. Many western nations use them much much less. It's about lifestyle choices. There are people here in the US that do make that choice, some that dont have them altogether...so if we all *really really cared* we could lower those numbers by a huge margin.

Neither here nor there. Why don't you pitch that line to the Aussies who you all go into stage acting roll before like you're really committed like they were to end mass shootings.

My comment was this in full context:

People are shot everyday in the USA. Everyday. All across the country. Are they all mentally ill? If so make it law all Americans have to undergo intense psych exams every 2 or 3 or 6 or 9 months. Make the tax payer pay. Stop BSing if you know the problem and you know solution.

So, I was asking are all these people shooting other people everyday across the USA mentally ill?

Because if they are you realize what that indicates? That there is a major epidemic of mentally ill people involved in daily gun violence in the USA unlike any other country on planet earth.

And if Americans know the problem (as opposed to not knowing the problem) and have the psychologists to solve the problem then fix the damn problem.

Ask the Aussies how they treated their mental health problem involving mass shootings? Do that. Then for the next 30 years play your "we really want to stop mass shootings and are as committed to it as you Aussies (because look... we all express sorrow and wish the families well online that must show we are as committed as you guys were) but we are waiting on our Government or anyone but us to fix our mental health problems."

 

[Grand Mal]

when you are dependent on who runs the government and you are hateful of the other party, it explains why leftwing hacks hate the NRA. they cannot come out and say they hate the NRA for mobilizing pro gun voters (who tend to vote against the politicians who push the creeping crud of SJW collectivism) so they have to pretend its because the NRA is responsible for usually left leaning criminals using weapons in violation of the law to harm others

'Usually left leaning criminals...'
Ya know, sometimes you just push the hackery that bit too far and make your reader say, "C'mon, that's just too much crap for anyone to swallow!"

 

[TurtleDude]

'Usually left leaning criminals...'
Ya know, sometimes you just push the hackery that bit too far and make your reader say, "C'mon, that's just too much crap for anyone to swallow!"

why do you think the DNC tries so hard to get felons their voting rights back?

 

[Grand Mal]

why do you think the DNC tries so hard to get felons their voting rights back?

Maybe because they think they should be allowed to vote? Do you think a convicted felon who's done his time should be disenfranchised? Me, I don't care either way but some of you guys seem to think that everything about your government and political parties is all about graft and corruption and self-serving duplicity. That how it is?

 

[truthatallcost]

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Here's your suspect:

Does he look sane to you? Well he was awaiting trial, for putting a knife blade in somebody. You can thank liberal stupidity for the fact that he was allowed to stab somebody, and go home as if nothing had happened. If we could finally get our balls back and get tough on crime, we'd eliminate many of these shooting sprees from happening.

 

[Kurmugeon]

Hey NRA and supporters....Is it still "too early" to have a conversation about responsible and reasonable gun regulation in the United States?

You blame the gun.

He shot dead three.

If he had made a bomb filled with poisoned nails and detonated it at a school assembly and killed 250 and injured 400 more...

How would the lack of guns make things better?

Be THANKFUL that crazies turn to guns, rather than getting Inovative!

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[calamity]

its getting harder and harder for ignorant posters to believe your motivation is anti gun violence rather than anti gun ownership.

Ignorant posters would have difficulty knowing the difference. Agreed.

 

[calamity]

You blame the gun.

He shot dead three.

If he had made a bomb filled with poisoned nails and detonated it at a school assembly and killed 250 and injured 400 more...

How would the lack of guns make things better?

Be THANKFUL that crazies turn to guns, rather than getting Inovative!

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So, the new pro-gun argument is "guns allow stupid people to kill."

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

His "picture" was dead on, and you know it.

But I have to give you credit for one thing. You just posted 4 bold-faced lies, back-to-back, without a moment's worth of hesitation.

Takes a "special" kind of person to do that.

Anything is fair game to deflect from the issue, right?:roll:

No it wasn't. stop listening to liberal freaks and do your own research.



3 people were shot in a chicago starbucks, where were you guys?

3 in Newark, where were you?

5 in maryland, where were you?


I could go on and on and on and on and on...........


If your coveted "mass shootings" were legit, you'd not whine only when white people got shot. The fact is, blacks shooting others is usually by people with illegal guns who also happen to be black and you all don't care to wet an eye over it because it doesn't help your bull**** agenda.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Lots? You'd have to show that lots of murderers are released from prison and kill again to back that up.
Back when there wasn't a prison option they'd publically execute criminals in the town square once a month or whatever and while the townsfolk watched thieves being executed pickpockets would be working the crowd.
Also, if the death penalty deters murder than capital punishment states must have lower violent crime rates. I wonder if that's true.

You are kidding, right? Over 80% of all homicides involve people with criminal records. I will search later for a thread I started a few years ago that proves this. or just google it.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

++ you need to go back to google and check your facts

It's true.

The only people who ignore when the shooters or victims are black are your ilk.

If I or others bring it up, within a few posts one of your ilk screeches "RACIST".....

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

You say the left ignores but I say the left treats these crimes like any other crime. It's the right that react as if the crime is special because it was commited by a Black person, illegal alien or Muslim. The rational thing is to understand that there are criminals within every population.

If one immigrant out of a million who have entered through the visa lottery program becomes a terrorist, that doesn't mean we need to change our immigration policy.

It's the difference between rational people and an ignorant mob.

it's not one islamic immigrant. and you change the policy to vet those who want to do us harm. Let em in, check em out first. You don't think that's prudent?


Why have metal detectors at a football game? Why have metal detectors at airports then? your logic doesn't make much sense.



as for black people, it's not that it's special, because they are black, it's that the left ignores the plight of the black community because it doesn't help thier anti gun agenda when someone uses an illegal gun which is most often the case. its your media, it's your msnbc, tell me why don't they report on black mass shootings that happen all too often?

 

[MaggieD]

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[apdst]

Neither were present in time.

That's why more people should be armed.

 

[TurtleDude]

You are kidding, right? Over 80% of all homicides involve people with criminal records. I will search later for a thread I started a few years ago that proves this. or just google it.

I posted those studies numerous times. and when you count juvenile gangbangers its even higher

 

[Manc Skipper]

That's why more people should be armed.

Arm a child as they enter school, that'll do it.

 

[disneydude]

No. I blame him. However, that doesn't mean that we should, as the NRA and gun nuts suggest, sit back and do nothing to address the rampant gun violence in this country.

 

[disneydude]

I know. I have been a member of the NRA since I was 14 and took my first hunter safety course provided by them over 40 years ago. Oh and it was free. I have never had a gun related accident in my life. That is because I care and the NRA cared enough to train me to safely handle firearms. It is sad to listen to these people slander an organization they apparently know nothing about. What else can you expect from these type of people.

The NRA does some good stuff. Its just too bad that over the last couple of decades they have become overrun by extremists who feel the need to oppose any and all reasonable and responsible gun regulation. Regulation that is supported by 80-90% of Americans. If they could get back to their core mission, they might be recognized as a legitimate organization again, rather than the extremist PAC that they have allowed themselves to become.

 

[disneydude]

your hysterics prove you want complete gun bans. its already illegal to use a firearm to harm anyone. Its illegal for criminals, those adjudicated incompetent etc to possess firearms. Everything else is only designed to harass legal gun ownership based on the lie that harassment will somehow trickle down to criminals

Sorry TD but you are dead wrong. I have never advocated for complete gun bans...you can search the last 10 years history on this site if you want to check. Its your paranoia speaking in the recent rant that you went on here.

 

[jaeger19]

No....all you guys ever try to argue is that no gun control measures will work....so lets keep doing nothing. Sorry....but doing nothing just isn't going to be acceptable any longer.

In other words.. you refuse to have a conversation. Duly noted.

Actually.. we argue that there are plenty of things to do.. THAT MIGHT WORK.

Its pretty proven that gun control is not going to work.

 

[disneydude]

In other words.. you refuse to have a conversation. Duly noted.

Actually.. we argue that there are plenty of things to do.. THAT MIGHT WORK.

Its pretty proven that gun control is not going to work.

Oh really? Other than doing nothing...what is it that you are advocating for to address the epidemic of gun violence in America today?

 

[jaeger19]

The NRA's own articles. Doh!

Nope. That's false.

I doubt you have any real knowledge of the NRA.

 

[disneydude]

Nope. That's false.

I doubt you have any real knowledge of the NRA.

Well....once again you are wrong.

 

[Grand Mal]

Here's your suspect:

Does he look sane to you? Well he was awaiting trial, for putting a knife blade in somebody. You can thank liberal stupidity for the fact that he was allowed to stab somebody, and go home as if nothing had happened. If we could finally get our balls back and get tough on crime, we'd eliminate many of these shooting sprees from happening.

Liberal stupidity rules in some of the safest countries in the world.
Guess again.

 

[Lursa]

So, the new pro-gun argument is "guns allow stupid people to kill."

What I'd like to know is why these people are out there with absolutely no self-control, they are all rage and have no ability to manage that anger. From the latest I've read, this guy in N. CA had a restraining order against him already by the neighbor he killed yesterday.

WTF is wrong with men that just lose their ****? And then go take it out on the world in general? Why did he go to the school to shoot kids? Was the neighbor's kid there?