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Major League Baseball 2017

Jack Hays said:
Even the Giants thought Hunter Strickland crossed the line against Bryce Harper




When you watch the video of Bryce Harper being hit by a 98-mph fastball and charging Giants pitcher Hunter Strickland, pay attention to the character who will tell you all you need to know about the situation. Watch Buster Posey, the Giants catcher. Watch him do . . . nothing.
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3 reasons why Posey did nothing.

1- Strickland told him a head of time he was hitting Harper. So he told Posey to do nothing, Strickland wanted a brawl.

2- Posey didn't agree with want Strickland did. It was 3 YEARS ago, in a year the Giants won the WS. What's the point?

3- Posey didn't want to get hurt in a fight.

I'm betting on #2.
 
At this point, I would give Manny Machado to the Yankees, and throw in a bag of baseball bats just so they would take him. Batting .214. Overrated scrub. That's not even worthy of starting in the minor leagues.
 
The Man said:
At this point, I would give Manny Machado to the Yankees, and throw in a bag of baseball bats just so they would take him. Batting .214. Overrated scrub. That's not even worthy of starting in the minor leagues.
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It's still early.

People were burying the Blue Jays 3 weeks ago. Now? They are dangerous.
 
Willie Mays night has been pretty cool .
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
3 reasons why Posey did nothing.

1- Strickland told him a head of time he was hitting Harper. So he told Posey to do nothing, Strickland wanted a brawl.

2- Posey didn't agree with want Strickland did. It was 3 YEARS ago, in a year the Giants won the WS. What's the point?

3- Posey didn't want to get hurt in a fight.

I'm betting on #2.
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I'd say all 3, in reverse order .
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
3 reasons why Posey did nothing.

1- Strickland told him a head of time he was hitting Harper. So he told Posey to do nothing, Strickland wanted a brawl.

2- Posey didn't agree with want Strickland did. It was 3 YEARS ago, in a year the Giants won the WS. What's the point?

3- Posey didn't want to get hurt in a fight.

I'm betting on #2.
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I'm with ya on #2. Posey was probably like, "You deserve to get your ass beat, Clown."

Here's what sort of baffles me about all this stuff. If someone hurls a 95-plus mph baseball at me, I'm going to the mound with my bat and breaking the ****er's arm. No doubt about it. That no one has done this is amazing.
 
calamity said:
I'm with ya on #2. Posey was probably like, "You deserve to get your ass beat, Clown."

Here's what sort of baffles me about all this stuff. If someone hurls a 95-plus mph baseball at me, I'm going to the mound with my bat and breaking the ****er's arm. No doubt about it. That no one has done this is amazing.
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What baffles me about this kind stuff is WHY? A pitcher throws a crappy pitch, the batter hits an HR, which is what he suppose to do. Then the batter's next at bat, or next game, or next year the pitcher throws at the batter because the PITCHER threw a bad pitch? WTF is that? The pitcher makes a mistake and takes it out on the batter? Maybe the dumbest 'unwritten rule' in all of sports.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
What baffles me about this kind stuff is WHY? A pitcher throws a crappy pitch, the batter hits an HR, which is what he suppose to do. Then the batter's next at bat, or next game, or next year the pitcher throws at the batter because the PITCHER threw a bad pitch? WTF is that? The pitcher makes a mistake and takes it out on the batter? Maybe the dumbest 'unwritten rule' in all of sports.
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Back in 1982 (I think) my gf and I were at a Tigers game which went wrong. Real wrong. Late in the game, after the Tigers roughed up the staff with several homeruns and extra base hits, the opposing pitcher hit a couple Tigers. The second guy hit charged the mound. And a typical baseball bench-clearing brawl ensued.

In the end, one of the Tiger star pitchers, Dave Rozema, was lying on the ground in pain. He blew out his knee when trying a flying Bruce Lee move (in spikes) and missed. His career was never again the same. He went from a sub 2 ERA to over 3, and eventually bounced out of the league. Weird thing is, Dave wasn't even pitching that night. I think he came flying in from the freaking bullpen area. :shock:

Two things: Why on earth does baseball not severely punish anyone who leaves the dugout and goes onto the field for a fight? And, why on earth do they not immediately eject any pitcher who hits a batter squarely with a fastball? There is no gray area when you hurl a fastball halfway into the batter's box.
 
calamity said:
Back in 1982 (I think) my gf and I were at a Tigers game which went wrong. Real wrong. Late in the game, after the Tigers roughed up the staff with several homeruns and extra base hits, the opposing pitcher hit a couple Tigers. The second guy hit charged the mound. And a typical baseball bench-clearing brawl ensued.

In the end, one of the Tiger star pitchers, Dave Rozema, was lying on the ground in pain. He blew out his knee when trying a flying Bruce Lee move (in spikes) and missed. His career was never again the same. He went from a sub 2 ERA to over 3, and eventually bounced out of the league. Weird thing is, Dave wasn't even pitching that night. I think he came flying in from the freaking bullpen area. :shock:

Two things: Why on earth does baseball not severely punish anyone who leaves the dugout and goes onto the field for a fight? And, why on earth do they not immediately eject any pitcher who hits a batter squarely with a fastball? There is no gray area when you hurl a fastball halfway into the batter's box.
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Even pitchers with good control lose one every now and then. You can't deny them the inside pitch.
 
Jack Hays said:
Even pitchers with good control lose one every now and then. You can't deny them the inside pitch.
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A brush back, or oops that barely breaks into the batter's box. Even a curve ball sailing over some guy's head. No problem. A fast ball down the middle of the box? You're out of the game.
 
Jake thinks Strickland may have told Posey to let it happen:

Some dinged Giants catcher Buster Posey for remaining at home plate while Harper sprinted toward Strickland — “Those were some big guys tumbling around,” Posey said afterward — but Arrieta said that his preference would be for his own catcher to “wait and give me an opportunity to do a little damage.”

“I don’t want it broken up right away. If it happens, I’ll let you know,” said Arrieta,
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BTW anyone interested in good baseball brawls YouTube 'Ray Knight vs' Eric Davis' .. 1986.
 
calamity said:
A brush back, or oops that barely breaks into the batter's box. Even a curve ball sailing over some guy's head. No problem. A fast ball down the middle of the box? You're out of the game.
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You're taking away the inside. Not fair to pitchers.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Jake thinks Strickland may have told Posey to let it happen:
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Harper's suspension has been reduced to three games. Here's the take of a pretty good Washington sportswriter.

A three-year grudge, utterly uncalled-forBy Barry Svrluga

. . . That there’s not a Nat or a Giant who believed Strickland’s version isn’t surprising, because that’s how baseball works. What’s telling is there wasn’t a Giant who defended Strickland’s action, either. The rules of engagement, stupid or not, were established long ago. Buster Posey knows them. So watch him stand behind the plate as Harper went after Strickland, and you learn everything you need to know about who was right and who was wrong on Monday afternoon in San Francisco.
 
A average speed chuck at a batters rear end is one thing, but to go head hunting is another, or putting serious heat at any part of the body.

I get it! Just don't throw heat!

I think everyday about Tony C's career being cut short because of Hamilton's high & tight. I don't think Hamilton meant any harm, but **** happens. Tony C was a special player that we would never get to witness.


 
Jack Hays said:
Harper's suspension has been reduced to three games. Here's the take of a pretty good Washington sportswriter.

A three-year grudge, utterly uncalled-forBy Barry Svrluga

. . . That there’s not a Nat or a Giant who believed Strickland’s version isn’t surprising, because that’s how baseball works. What’s telling is there wasn’t a Giant who defended Strickland’s action, either. The rules of engagement, stupid or not, were established long ago. Buster Posey knows them. So watch him stand behind the plate as Harper went after Strickland, and you learn everything you need to know about who was right and who was wrong on Monday afternoon in San Francisco.
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Yeah, in an earlier post that's what I said I thought it was. Posey and the Giants couldn't believe Strickland held a 3 year vendetta, that happened in a year the Giants WON THE WS!! Who cares that Harper hit 2 HR's. So I think the other Giant players just let it happen. If you look at the field camera NONE of the Giant infielders moved at first, it wasn't just Posey who froze.

But I think Jake has a point too. Posey probably knew beforehand and was told by Strickland to let it happen, and Posey was happy to do just that, let it happen.

The whole business seems to be over. Nats didn't throw at Posey, or any of the top Giant players last night. Nats took the high-road. And Strickland being a reliever? He never bats. So the whole thing is probably done.
 
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RetiredUSN said:
A average speed chuck at a batters rear end is one thing, but to go head hunting is another, or putting serious heat at any part of the body.

I get it! Just don't throw heat!

I think everyday about Tony C's career being cut short because of Hamilton's high & tight. I don't think Hamilton meant any harm, but **** happens. Tony C was a special player that we would never get to witness.


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Scary stuff.. when I played baseball I hit lefty. I got hit lots of times, mostly because the pitchers saw so few lefty batters they were wild outside(to a righty batter which is where lefties bat). I never got hit in the head though. Thank God!

I remember Tony C. Great talent.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Scary stuff.. when I played baseball I hit lefty. I got hit lots of times, mostly because the pitchers saw so few lefty batters they were wild outside(to a righty batter which is where lefties bat). I never got hit in the head though. Thank God!

I remember Tony C. Great talent.
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Even during my juvenile delinquent years, I put my shenanigans aside for baseball. I loved pitching and did very well in the American Legion leagues. When I moved back to Maine, the coaches didn't want me to pitch on the Jr. High & High School teams because of my background. The Legion let me pitch and I loved every minute of it. My Phys Ed teacher was a Legion coach and he harangued the school coaches for many years after I dropped out of school for not trying me. He couldn't wait to remind me every I came home on leave after joining the Navy. Well anyways, this coach told me and the others to bounce the ball into the batters legs for the comical theater if they were being jerks to any of our teammates. I only did it twice, but it was fun watching them do the funky chicken.

In 1975, I broke the Presidential Fitness Award record for my school by throwing a softball 315' measured, which was supposedly part of the program depending on where you lived.....I dunno. My reward was getting to pitch against Eddie Feigner & the rest of "The King And His Court". You would not believe how 4 guys could cover so much field, or hit with the power they did. Eddie struck me out pitching between his legs.....gulp!

I played off and on in the Navy and had some great fun, but then I discovered golf.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Even during my juvenile delinquent years, I put my shenanigans aside for baseball. I loved pitching and did very well in the American Legion leagues. When I moved back to Maine, the coaches didn't want me to pitch on the Jr. High & High School teams because of my background. The Legion let me pitch and I loved every minute of it. My Phys Ed teacher was a Legion coach and he harangued the school coaches for many years after I dropped out of school for not trying me. He couldn't wait to remind me every I came home on leave after joining the Navy. Well anyways, this coach told me and the others to bounce the ball into the batters legs for the comical theater if they were being jerks to any of our teammates. I only did it twice, but it was fun watching them do the funky chicken.

In 1975, I broke the Presidential Fitness Award record for my school by throwing a softball 315' measured, which was supposedly part of the program depending on where you lived.....I dunno. My reward was getting to pitch against Eddie Feigner & the rest of "The King And His Court". You would not believe how 4 guys could cover so much field, or hit with the power they did. Eddie struck me out pitching between his legs.....gulp!

I played off and on in the Navy and had some great fun, but then I discovered golf.
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Sounds like you were better than I was. BUT we do have something in common.

Back in the 70's I played fast pitch softball. I was OK, played 1st base, batted about .300. 1 year they had a charity softball game against Eddie Feigner and His Court..The league I was in put together an all-star team to play against them. I got up once against him, he struck me out on 3 pitches. We were a pretty good team, but against Eddie? I think a few guys foul tipped a few of his pitches. That was it. From 45 feet he was unhittalbe. The guy was frickin amazing.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Sounds like you were better than I was. BUT we do have something in common.

Back in the 70's I played fast pitch softball. I was OK, played 1st base, batted about .300. 1 year they had a charity softball game against Eddie Feigner and His Court..The league I was in put together an all-star team to play against them. I got up once against him, he struck me out on 3 pitches. We were a pretty good team, but against Eddie? I think a few guys foul tipped a few of his pitches. That was it. From 45 feet he was unhittalbe. The guy was frickin amazing.
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The older we get, the better we were.:cheers:
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Sounds like you were better than I was. BUT we do have something in common.

Back in the 70's I played fast pitch softball. I was OK, played 1st base, batted about .300. 1 year they had a charity softball game against Eddie Feigner and His Court..The league I was in put together an all-star team to play against them. I got up once against him, he struck me out on 3 pitches. We were a pretty good team, but against Eddie? I think a few guys foul tipped a few of his pitches. That was it. From 45 feet he was unhittalbe. The guy was frickin amazing.
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I forgot to add. Eddie stepped out towards the mound before the game started and demanded to the UMPS that If I got a called strike that it would be a out for his team. I didn't get any. Those guys were maestros with a bat, and I was just a decent fastball softball pitcher.

Eddie did have me throw against his best guy from over the right field fence before the game, and It was about even I guess. My Legion coach put him up to it.

Eddie ask me after the game if I would be playing college ball, and all I could do as a recent drop out was laugh. He and his team joined all the guys at the Legion hall after the game and it was a blast just listening to the stories about their travels.

Very nice guys!
 
Jack Hays said:
You're taking away the inside. Not fair to pitchers.
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The inside is fair game. Middle of the batter's box, not so much.

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Batter's Box is 6" off the plate. OK, allow the pitcher 12" inside the BB for errant inside pitches. Any pitch that approaches being 2 feet off the plate, in the direction of the hitter--fast balls are especially suspect since they are easy to control--results in an automatic ejection, especially if it hits the batter.
 
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