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Main reason Trump is hated

Why is Trump So hated?

  • Ain't no good

    Votes: 35 50.7%
  • Probably envious

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • TDS

    Votes: 19 27.5%
  • They know he's right

    Votes: 13 18.8%

  • Total voters
    69
  • Poll closed .
Again...there is a massive difference between dislike and rabid hatred.

The idiot left in this country have been conditioned over the course of the last few decades. They have made this all very intensely personal. Most of them are morons...rebels without a cause. The main difference between all of us is that following the elections, MOST people accept it, move on to the next, and live their lives. Not those poor pathetic simple minded ****wits. Their very existence is shattered and they spend their days literally roiling in hatred. In 2012, when Obama won, we said it before the election...if Obama wins the sun will still rise the next day and we will still be blessed to be living in the greatest country on the planet. For the leftists following the 2016 election...Wednesday, November 10 2016...the sun didnt come up. Still hasnt.

It is fascinating to read what so many anti-Trumpers say about the country being destroyed; the Constitution being shredded; democracy being overruled all because Trump was elected. One person cannot destroy the country. The country will survive and someone else will take over depending the people's choice.
It's not as if high-level intelligence officials were going to create a conspiracy to destroy a presidency by using phony documents to get a FISA warrant to spy on innocent campaign members. Wait a minute. That was already done by the party losing the election. Maybe we are a little too naive to think that political parties will play by the rules of the game when electing a new president.
 
  • Wealth envy
  • Trump has a beautiful wife others could never get close to
  • People think a president should be pure like Jimmy Carter
  • They don't like people who have been married three times


Because he is not an honorable man. Never was and never will be.
 
I stated some concrete reasons earlier in the thread, that clearly addressed this. People don't like being lied to.

He makes big, loud promises, like bringing back jobs to America, then quietly does the opposite.

He and the Republicans promote things like freedom and protecting the constitution, then do the exact opposite.

I don't really think Trump did much at all for the stock market other than push the FED to recklessly juice it at every minuscule drop, have any of you looked at their portfolio? That's the opposite of a free market, it's a rigged market.

The man is indirectly pushing Seniors to take unproven and harmful drugs, when hardly anyone believes he took them himself. I care a lot about that, because I happen to know older people I care about, who dote on his every word.

The guy takes full credit for anything remotely positive, and completely denies any responsibility at all for anything remotely negative. How can anyone admire that?

So yeah, aside from a horrible personality and terrible managing of our worst crisis in decades, there are plenty of other concrete (not visceral) reasons for the dislikes.

Now this is pretty serious. YOu wrote: "The man is indirectly pushing Seniors to take unproven and harmful drugs, when hardly anyone believes he took them himself. I care a lot about that, because I happen to know older people I care about, who dote on his every word."

I think you have an important missions in life to go to those seniors and explain to them that Trump knows nothing about medicine and he has no idea how this pandemic may end. If you really care about those old people, you should do everything you can to encourage those people to NOT LISTEN TO TRUMP WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT MEDICINE!!!.

Tell them not to be like some younger idiots who actually think people will half a brain will listen to Trump when he talks about things he know nothing about.
 
Although I chose TDS, I think the uniform hatred from the dems, AND republican never Trumpers, is a lot more simple than all that. The fact that he's an outsider upsets them more than anything else. He's an arrogant ass, but so are most of the DC creatures. There are too many people making too much money for an outsider to mess up. They hate it,l and they'll fight it every inch of the way. The Bushes and Clintons ruled DC for over 20 years. So all the politicians making millions off of their positions, don't want to give it up. Biden's family has been enriched from his selling access for years. He's nothing more than a used car salesman.

Yes, there are a lot of political parasites just dying to get their jobs back if a Democrat wins the presidency.
And they don't want a president who regularly fires people whom he does not trust or whom he believes is plotting against him like Comey, Strzok, Brennan, Clapper, and McCabe just to name a few.
 
What's main reason Trump is So hated

You mean besides the fact that he is a jerk who spouts conspiracy theories and relishes in dividing Americans?
 
Now this is pretty serious. YOu wrote: "The man is indirectly pushing Seniors to take unproven and harmful drugs, when hardly anyone believes he took them himself. I care a lot about that, because I happen to know older people I care about, who dote on his every word."

I think you have an important missions in life to go to those seniors and explain to them that Trump knows nothing about medicine and he has no idea how this pandemic may end. If you really care about those old people, you should do everything you can to encourage those people to NOT LISTEN TO TRUMP WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT MEDICINE!!!.

Tell them not to be like some younger idiots who actually think people will half a brain will listen to Trump when he talks about things he know nothing about.

Spare me the lecture about reaching out to them. I care about all Seniors getting taken. That's why I'm here. That's why we need people like Dr. Fauci to help inform others of fact vs fiction.
 
What's main reason Trump is So hated

Part due to him being an asshole and part due to snowflakes ****ing freaking out over non-issues creating mass hysteria.
 
OK. So you don't like the word 'hate' associated with how you abhor, detest, resent, and dislike your duly elected president.
You should know that those other words are direct synonyms for the word 'hate'.
But I know that 'hate' has some very bad social connotations. So no one likes to be called hateful.
But you have to admit the way some people go on and on about their feelings for the most powerful politician in the entire world sure sounds like there is a lot of 'hate' behind those words.

I fall into the despise group myself, you left out that word.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we see a bunch of hatred from the right when obama was president? Or was that my imagination? Hate takes way too much of my good energy to waste on trump and his followers which is why I settle on despise.
 
What's main reason Trump is So hated

Your assumption is what? The man is POTUS. He has a strong base that will support anything he says or does.
You must be looking for input from those of us who do not support President Trump's policies, actions or handling of the Executive Branch.
 
The stupid TDS afflicted Moon Bats in this country are confused.

Trump is not hated by real Americans. Trump is only hated by those yahoos that can't stand the idea of America being great again after that Obama failure.

That really pisses them off. They want America to be a sorry Socialist craphole. You know, so somebody else will be forced to pay their bills.

PCB66 America doesn't need your ignorant view of what democracy means in order to move on after Trump is retired.
There are millions and millions of "Real Americans" who will vote in November to send Trump to the golf courses he loves.
We work hard, pay our taxes and hope you read a couple books about our form of democracy so you realize America is greater than one political party.
 
While there is something to what you say, it does not hold water well. Hillary's negatives were offset by Trump's. That mostly came out as a wash. One reason Trump won is that he did, and does, have a loyal core. There are millions of people that genuinely like him, fans if you will. I would not call them liberal, but some of them were Democrats of long standing.

You personally may not see Republicans as evil. Hillary supporters as a class did, though it might have been sanitized to read enemy or opponent. Labeling has been Democratic party's go to method since the 1980s at least. It has been effective at cowering opposition and silencing genuine debate. We have only to look at which speakers are forced to withdraw from college forums or sanctioned on social media. The guardians of free speech actively participate in its suppression.

What we have seen is indeed more corrupt than a mob family. Obama's administration corrupted law enforcement, intelligence gathering, even the courts for political ends. The watchdogs against them, our news media, have been subverted and turned into attack dogs. The flip side is that they protected their own. Any reasonable person will conclude that Hillary committed multiple crimes with the server, yet the reporting was pure gaslight. Much of this is only now coming to light, largely because of the administrations power to declassify information.

I have tried to steer this conversation away from Hillary Clinton repeatedly. The Trumpists love nothing more than to talk about her. Well, they might like to talk about Obama either as much or just a little bit more. You spent three more paragraphs on both of them. I find it a waste of time and energy.
 
I agree..this and other hate Trump polls/threads/comments are a defection from Biden which the American people know is a bumbling basket case and even elected wouldn't be in charge.

^ that's how you cover for a Yankee Con Man.
 
:lamo

Bulll****

Leftists were promised a win. Now I'll give you this...THEY didnt care if it was Hillary or Crazy Bernie...they just expected to WIN. They were PROMISED a win. And when they lost, they lost their sad, embarrassing, pathetic, ever loving ****ing minds.

Um. Is there a reason you sent that to me?
 
I have tried to steer this conversation away from Hillary Clinton repeatedly. The Trumpists love nothing more than to talk about her. Well, they might like to talk about Obama either as much or just a little bit more. You spent three more paragraphs on both of them. I find it a waste of time and energy.
I noticed that you have tried to steer the conversation. Why?

Hillary Clinton is an obvious case, which must be addressed in any rational discussion. To ignore her is to refuse to deal in facts.
 
Diesel,
Don't hold back with your real feelings for Trump.
We need to know your objective opinion of Trump and how he will do this November.

That's a heady request. My feelings about Trump as a human are not secret. You quoted some of them. Obtuse people and musings bore me.

My feelings about Trump as a candidate are complex. Perhaps you anticipated the differentiation when you bolded and italicized the phrase "objective opinion". Trump has at least as good a chance at winning in November as Biden does. Did I answer your questions that you weren't even polite enough to pose in question form?
 
IMO? For the vast majority (but not all) it is a form of TDS.

Back when I was working on my first college degree, I took sociology for two semesters. One of the things I learned about was how some people can be so affected by a shock to their foundational beliefs that their whole worldview can be skewed/changed.

It was called experiencing a significant emotional event. Other's call it a psychic shock, and some other current name I cannot recall.

For months people were told who was going to be elected President, and who was not.

Then, he won.

Many people who had their foundations knocked out from under them desperately sought for reasons. We've seen the results as they grasped at ANY justification for this failure of expectations to be a "cheat."

They cheered the Collusion narrative and found white knight's of the resistance in people like Comey, Brennan, Clapper, etc.. When that finally collapsed, albeit taking three years to do so, they simply can't accept it.

Trump HAD to win by cheating...there can be no other "rational" explanation.

They can't change on their own.

It would take another significant emotional event, only this time something which could shock them into acceptance it was not their "fault." To realize it was the fault of those "trusted information sources" who truly misled them, and is still doing so today.

Meanwhile, they will keep feeding on the "all-hate all-the-time" anti-Trump propaganda. Admittedly, Trump being Trump, he can't help "stoking the fires" himself.

That's my opinion anyway. :shrug:

Your entire opinion is based on something not even real. Good grief.
 
Proper choices like...he's a failed business man with 3 bankruptcies under his belt, forced to pay off fraud fine for Trump U., years worth of lawsuits for cheating people out of payment, cheated on his wives, compulsive liar, not very smart, too thin-skinned, doesn't understand how government or the Constitution works, makes America look bad, is outplayed by leaders in the rest of the world, not very American, not very Christian...and most damning of all, I am not better off with him as president.

I don't think those are things to hate him for...but certainly reasons why he shouldn't be president.
 
What's main reason Trump is So hated

Hated is such a strong word. Now if you go to question 100, Trump's likability you'll see it was broken down into like a lot, like somewhat, neither like nor dislike, dislike somewhat and dislike a lot. Perhaps dislike a lot could be equated to hate and like a lot to love as it seems for most, they either love Trump or hate Trump.

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/5fsvmrvvhh/econTabReport.pdf

Now as you can see, Democrats really dislike Trump a lot, Republicans like him a lot. So that is basically based on the letter behind Trump's name. but what about independent? the non-affiliated, less to non-partisans. Only 13% like Trump a lot, add the 12% who like him somewhat you have a total of 25% of like Trump. Now you have 33% of independents who dislike him a lot along with 13% who dislike him somewhat for a total of 46% of independents who dislike Trump. 20% answered they neither like nor dislike Trump.

I concentrated on independents here as Democrats disliking Trump is to be expected as Republicans liking him is. So why do independents dislike Trump so much? If you check out his policies and his stances on the issues, independents are fairly split on those, for some, against some and don't care on others. So one would normally expect more of a 50-50 split on the like/don't like scale instead of a 25/46 like/dislike. Why?

I think this has more to do with Trump himself than his policies or even his politics. His very unpresidential behavior, his childish antics, his temper tantrums, his name calling, his bullying. One doesn't expect these things out of the president of the United States. I'd say with independents, swing voters if you will, the non-affiliated, it's his uncouth, obnoxious personality. I personally think that it will be Trump's in your face, bullying persona that will defeat him in November much more than his policies or what he has done as presidents or even his politics.

Independents voted for Trump in 2016 by a 46-42 margin over Hillary with 12% voting third party against both major party candidates. I think independents this time around as in the 2018 midterms will go for the Democrat. Because of Trump himself and his rude, childish, unpresidential behavior. These folks actually expect a president to act presidential, you'll see.
 
Hated is such a strong word. Now if you go to question 100, Trump's likability you'll see it was broken down into like a lot, like somewhat, neither like nor dislike, dislike somewhat and dislike a lot. Perhaps dislike a lot could be equated to hate and like a lot to love as it seems for most, they either love Trump or hate Trump.

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/5fsvmrvvhh/econTabReport.pdf

Now as you can see, Democrats really dislike Trump a lot, Republicans like him a lot. So that is basically based on the letter behind Trump's name. but what about independent? the non-affiliated, less to non-partisans. Only 13% like Trump a lot, add the 12% who like him somewhat you have a total of 25% of like Trump. Now you have 33% of independents who dislike him a lot along with 13% who dislike him somewhat for a total of 46% of independents who dislike Trump. 20% answered they neither like nor dislike Trump.

I concentrated on independents here as Democrats disliking Trump is to be expected as Republicans liking him is. So why do independents dislike Trump so much? If you check out his policies and his stances on the issues, independents are fairly split on those, for some, against some and don't care on others. So one would normally expect more of a 50-50 split on the like/don't like scale instead of a 25/46 like/dislike. Why?

I think this has more to do with Trump himself than his policies or even his politics. His very unpresidential behavior, his childish antics, his temper tantrums, his name calling, his bullying. One doesn't expect these things out of the president of the United States. I'd say with independents, swing voters if you will, the non-affiliated, it's his uncouth, obnoxious personality. I personally think that it will be Trump's in your face, bullying persona that will defeat him in November much more than his policies or what he has done as presidents or even his politics.

Independents voted for Trump in 2016 by a 46-42 margin over Hillary with 12% voting third party against both major party candidates. I think independents this time around as in the 2018 midterms will go for the Democrat. Because of Trump himself and his rude, childish, unpresidential behavior. These folks actually expect a president to act presidential, you'll see.
I find it childish that people focus on appearances and ignore all the awesome things Trump has done...

THAT childishness is worse than anything Trump may have done or said...

It is deeply disturbing when voters consider voting for s given person on the basis of such venal "concerns" as

How "presidential" he is...

A totally subjective term

To me Presidential means what a president DOES for our country
 
I find it childish that people focus on appearances and ignore all the awesome things Trump has done...

THAT childishness is worse than anything Trump may have done or said...

It is deeply disturbing when voters consider voting for s given person on the basis of such venal "concerns" as

How "presidential" he is...

A totally subjective term

To me Presidential means what a president DOES for our country

That's fine. But you'll find out for most independents, those not affiliate with either party, the presidential election is like a beauty contest. Independents tend not to pay any attention to the day to day grind of politics in Washington. A lot of them make up their mind who to vote for based on their perception of the candidates. Whether they like a candidate more than the other one. Independents for the most part don't belong to sites like this one. They're too busy trying to make ends meet, taking care of family, rooting for their favorite sports team or watching their favorite TV program. They pay little attention to politics in general.

They really don't have a stake in the game. They're not Republicans and they're not Democrats. Each major party has a huge stake in the game of politics. Most independents don't even pay attention to who is running until a month or less from the election. You'll find this fact out.

An example of this is Trump's job approval. 9% of Democrats approve, 88% disapprove, 3% undecided. Republicans 86% approve, 14% disapprove, 0% undecided. Now with independents on Trump's job approval, 37% approve, 45% disapprove with a huge 18% undecided/not sure. Think about the undecided's. 3% of Democrats vs 0% of Republicans vs 18% of independents. Think about that, 18% of independents haven't paid enough attention to politics or Trump to know or decide whether or not he's doing a good or a bad job. That last 18% will probably base their vote on their perception of Donald Trump, whether or not they like him. Not so much on his policies or stances on issues or anything else. It's a beauty contest to them.
 
That's fine. But you'll find out for most independents, those not affiliate with either party, the presidential election is like a beauty contest. Independents tend not to pay any attention to the day to day grind of politics in Washington. A lot of them make up their mind who to vote for based on their perception of the candidates. Whether they like a candidate more than the other one. Independents for the most part don't belong to sites like this one. They're too busy trying to make ends meet, taking care of family, rooting for their favorite sports team or watching their favorite TV program. They pay little attention to politics in general.

They really don't have a stake in the game. They're not Republicans and they're not Democrats. Each major party has a huge stake in the game of politics. Most independents don't even pay attention to who is running until a month or less from the election. You'll find this fact out.

An example of this is Trump's job approval. 9% of Democrats approve, 88% disapprove, 3% undecided. Republicans 86% approve, 14% disapprove, 0% undecided. Now with independents on Trump's job approval, 37% approve, 45% disapprove with a huge 18% undecided/not sure. Think about the undecided's. 3% of Democrats vs 0% of Republicans vs 18% of independents. Think about that, 18% of independents haven't paid enough attention to politics or Trump to know or decide whether or not he's doing a good or a bad job. That last 18% will probably base their vote on their perception of Donald Trump, whether or not they like him. Not so much on his policies or stances on issues or anything else. It's a beauty contest to them.

I skimmed through this bc it doesn't seem on topic (ok, maybe it is...) and plus I just don't care about those kind of stats

Again, people should vote on what a president DOES or is likely to do. Conservatives like what Trump has done..most couldn't care less about the petty things Dems notice about his personality

Which personality I find delightful much of the time bTW



Y'all are just ticked that the baby hater didn't win...
 
I skimmed through this bc it doesn't seem on topic (ok, maybe it is...) and plus I just don't care about those kind of stats

Again, people should vote on what a president DOES or is likely to do. Conservatives like what Trump has done..most couldn't care less about the petty things Dems notice about his personality

Which personality I find delightful much of the time bTW



Y'all are just ticked that the baby hater didn't win...


If one studies electoral history you'll find out an average 90% of Republicans and 90% of democrats vote for their candidate regardless of who that candidate is. Independents are different. They can go heavily Republican one election and heavily democratic the next. This is why we tend to call independent swing voters. There's no allegiance to political party with them, no loyalty. They just choose for whatever reason who they'll vote for and vote. Could be on policy, could be on charisma and or personality, could be they just don't like one of the candidates. Independents aren't political junkies, as I stated being unaffiliated they don't have that huge stake in the outcome of an election that members of both major parties do.

I think the independent vote this year will more mirror 2018 than 2016. A huge swing of 16 points from voting Republican to voting Democratic for these swing voters, independents. From a four point Republican advantage in 2016 46-42 Trump over Clinton to a 12 point Democratic advantage in 2018, 54-42 Democratic congressional candidates over Republican congressional candidates. One has to remember 12% of independents voted third party against both major party candidates in 2016. Independents really disliked and didn't want neither major party candidate to become their next president.
 
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