It Is Not Your Constitutional Right To Not Wear A Mask

[ldsrptcvt]

I'm not a surgeon, tho, nor am I in a sterile operating room.

non-answer; the example shows that masks help spread **** from the wearer to others.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Everything is a political issue. Literally everything.

only because We the People allow it to happen - latching onto political figures instead of researching unbiased facts. We bring diversionary politicization on ourselves - we need to be more active in national issues, not just followers

 

[ldsrptcvt]

This ruling will be highly criticized. What other restriction will government lay on churches to ‘protect’ them? We expected a nutso ruling from the the three commounist women, but Roberts going along is reminiscent of his insane 0bamacare ruling. You don’t expect this in America. More like the USSR where Christians were persecuted. Oh well. I guess they’ll have to meet underground.

and leave them there for a 14-day quarantine

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Christians forgive him for what he may have done when he was a liberal Democrat. We are a forgiving people. All about repentance.

Trump never uttered a syllable of repentence - he just keeps on sinning and he doesn't give a **** what you think

 

[ldsrptcvt]

No, it does not depend on the State. Executive Orders only apply to the Executive Branch and no further. Regulations are a function of the Executive Branch, and therefore subject to Executive Orders. However, that does not apply to the law. Governors may choose not to enforce the law, but then they would be violating their oath of office. Laws are not something Governors have the authority to change, under any circumstance.

Governors may not issue Executive Orders and attempt to enforce them as if they were law, like they are attempting to do in leftist-controlled States. That is called a dictatorship, and it is not allowed in the US.

take it to a lawyer; you are afraid he will not agree with you. You do realize that states are largely autonomous.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Yep, and that is part of the conundrum. Are we to live in the shadow of that fear for the rest of our lives? What will become of a society in which every citizen views every other citizen as a leper?

We both know the answer to that rhetorical question.

The herd immunity effect comes into play. Many people besides me are aware of the fact that once infected, a reasonably healthy immune system has a better than 98% chance of defeating the infection. Irrational fear is also infectious and contagious. Panic ensues.

that 98% chance does not apply to over 92,000,000 Americans
How Many Adults Are at Risk of Serious Illness If Infected with Coronavirus? Updated Data | KFF

 

[Wayne Jr]

non-answer; the example shows that masks help spread **** from the wearer to others.

Not when worn all day and constantly touched, they don't. You don't see surgeons reusing the same mask day after day, either.

 

[Wayne Jr]

only because We the People allow it to happen -

Uh, no, it's because politics is the activity of governance. A kid playing with a ball...there's regulation about how that ball is made, where that kid can play, etc. Politics.

 

[Mashmont]

Trump never uttered a syllable of repentence - he just keeps on sinning and he doesn't give a **** what you think

Sounds like a lot of bearing false witness you're doing.

 

[minnie616]

Not when worn all day and constantly touched, they don't. You don't see surgeons reusing the same mask day after day, either.

Pretty silly thinking anyone should wear the same mask day after day after day without ever washing it ( in the case of a washable mask ) or discarding a disposable mask at the end of your shift or your public outing and using a new one the next shift or outing you go on.

Disposable Paper masks are available for less than 50 cents each at many locations.

 

[Wayne Jr]

Pretty silly thinking anyone should wear the same mask day after day after day without ever washing it ( in the case of a washable mask ) or discarding a disposable mask at the end of your shift or your public outing and using a new one the next shift or outing you go on.

Disposable Paper masks are available for less than 50 cents each at many locations.

$15 for 5 over here.

 

[minnie616]

$15 for 5 over here.

Pack of 50 $12.95 from Amazon


Disposable-Face-Masks-Breathable-Comfortable

 

[Wayne Jr]

Pack of 50 $12.95 from Amazon


Disposable-Face-Masks-Breathable-Comfortable

Yeah and the masks I ordered a month ago are still in transit.

 

[minnie616]

Yeah and the masks I ordered a month ago are still in transit.

If I were you I would claim lost in mail and get my money back. In fact I ordered 20 paper ones about 6 weeks ago from Walmart that were in transit And did they did not arrive in 2 weeks so Walmart assumed they were lost since they did not arrive in a timely manner and refunded my money and said if they showed up I could keep the masks or donate them.So I ordered 50 from Amazon after the Amazon ones arrived the ones from Walmart showed up.

A bit of advice ....Face makes should be treated like underware.

Change daily.

If worn or have a hole in them ...throw away.

If damp ....wash or in the case of disposable mask throw away.

 

[Wayne Jr]

If I were you I would claim lost in mail and get my money back. In fact I ordered 20 paper ones about 6 weeks ago from Walmart that were in transit And did they did not arrive in 2 weeks so Walmart assumed they were lost since they did not arrive in a timely manner and refunded my money and said if they showed up I could keep the masks or donate them.So I ordered 50 from Amazon after the Amazon ones arrived the ones from Walmart showed up.

A bit of advice ....Face makes should be treated like underware.

Change daily.

If worn or have a hole in them ...throw away.

If damp ....wash or in the case of disposable mask throw away.

Or just not wear one.

So much hassle for so little benefit.

 

[minnie616]

Or just not wear one.

So much hassle for so little benefit.

While it may be no or little benefit to you it might be beneficial to others.

Like I said the wearing a mask during a pandemic is showing respect to others.

I always told/taught my children when they were young to show respect and kindness to the older generation.
I told them one day if they lived long enough they would One day be old Too.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Uh, no, it's because politics is the activity of governance. A kid playing with a ball...there's regulation about how that ball is made, where that kid can play, etc. Politics.

It is up to us to be savvy enough to get what we want within our system - not a political savior (which will never exist). We are too uneducated to guide ourselves. No one even reads anymore, let alone debate national issues in a constructive way (just bitchin' at the bar)

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Sounds like a lot of bearing false witness you're doing.

show me where he ever repented, and prove he doesn't just keep doing the same old ****

 

[ldsrptcvt]

$15 for 5 over here.

man, Ohio businesses sure screw you guys

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Or just not wear one.

So much hassle for so little benefit.

or just not wear underwear.....? WTF is the hassle? It's more hassle to fill up at the gas station

 

[Wayne Jr]

While it may be no or little benefit to you it might be beneficial to others.

It's just not a big deal over here. 54 cases and 1 fatality total since this all started. Not worth the hysteria at all.

Like I said the wearing a mask during a pandemic is showing respect to others.

Wearing a mask has nothing to do with respect one way or another.

 

[Wayne Jr]

or just not wear underwear.....?

Masks are not like underwear.

WTF is the hassle?

Price gouging and delayed shipments.

It's more hassle to fill up at the gas station

The gas station doesn't take a month to get fuel to my car the way the masks I ordered a month ago still haven't arrived.

 

[Wayne Jr]

man, Ohio businesses sure screw you guys

I just got back from the gas station, they have N95 masks (which the public is not supposed to be using) $7 for a pack of 3. Best price I've seen yet. No, I didn't buy them.

 

[maxparrish]

take it to a lawyer; you are afraid he will not agree with you. You do realize that states are largely autonomous.

The states have not been largely autonomous since the civil war, and even less so after FDR got through with demolishing the limits of federal power. But what has also been largely been true is that most of the bill of rights has been incorporated to include the states. In particular, for the sake of this discussion:

Amendment I[edit]
Guarantee against establishment of religion
This provision has been incorporated against the states. See Everson v. Board of Education, 330 U.S. 1 (1947).[26]

Guarantee of free exercise of religion
This provision has been incorporated against the states. See Cantwell v. Connecticut, 310 U.S. 296 (1940).

Guarantee of freedom of speech
This provision has been incorporated against the states. See Gitlow v. New York, 268 U.S. 652 (1925) (dicta) and Stromberg v. California, 283 U.S. 359 (1931).

Guarantee of freedom of the press
This provision has been incorporated against the states. See Near v. Minnesota, 283 U.S. 697 (1931).

Guarantee of freedom of assembly
This provision has been incorporated against the states. See DeJonge v. Oregon, 299 U.S. 353 (1937).

Guarantee of the right to petition for redress of grievances
This provision has been incorporated against the states. See Edwards v. South Carolina, 372 U.S. 229 (1963).[27][28]

Guarantee of freedom of expressive association
This right, though not in the words of the first amendment, was first mentioned in the case NAACP v. Alabama, 357 U.S. 449 (1958)[29] and was at that time applied to the states. See also Roberts v. United States Jaycees, 468 U.S. 609 (1984), where the U.S. Supreme Court held that "implicit in the right to engage in activities protected by the First Amendment" is "a corresponding right to associate with others in pursuit of a wide variety of political, social, economic, educational, religious, and cultural ends."

Incorporation of the Bill of Rights - Wikipedia

So my advice, for discussion purposes, is the quite dropping generalizations as if they mean something. States are NOT sovereign to violate the first amendment (or the second, etc.).

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Masks are not like underwear.


Price gouging and delayed shipments.


The gas station doesn't take a month to get fuel to my car the way the masks I ordered a month ago still haven't arrived.

1. underwear referenced post 1014
2. the 'American Way' evolved to this - hard-ass capitalism includes price gouging
3. you can use a bandanna in the meantime - easily washed, even bleached