It Is Not Your Constitutional Right To Not Wear A Mask

[Wayne Jr]

1. underwear referenced post 1014
2. the 'American Way' evolved to this - hard-ass capitalism includes price gouging
3. you can use a bandanna in the meantime - easily washed, even bleached

1. Underwear is not relevant to the topic.
2. All economic systems experience supply/demand driving prices.
3. I can also just not wear a mask.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

1. Underwear is not relevant to the topic.
2. All economic systems experience supply/demand driving prices.
3. I can also just not wear a mask.

2. then don't complain about price gouging - pay the going rate to support your local mask vendor

 

[minnie616]

It's just not a big deal over here. 54 cases and 1 fatality total since this all started. Not worth the hysteria at all.


Wearing a mask has nothing to do with respect one way or another.

When in a highly contagious area wearing a mask is a sign of respect.
It shows we care about doing what we can to protect others.

We have had over 5400 deaths in Michigan since the second or third week of March. The first 2 confirmed cases late the night of Tuesday March 8 after Michigan’s Presidential Primary.

 

[Wayne Jr]

When in a highly contagious area wearing a mask is a sign of respect.
It shows we care about doing what we can to protect others.

We have had over 5400 deaths in Michigan since the second or third week of March. The first 2 confirmed cases late the night of Tuesday March 8 after Michigan’s Presidential Primary.

Wearing a mask has nothing to do with respect.

 

[Wayne Jr]

2. then don't complain about price gouging - pay the going rate to support your local mask vendor

I want complaining. I was answering your question.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Wearing a mask has nothing to do with respect.

it shows that you care enough to help protect your neighbor

 

[ldsrptcvt]

I want complaining. I was answering your question.

It's just the phrase 'price gouging' has a negative connotation, like getting screwed

 

[ldsrptcvt]

The states have not been largely autonomous since the civil war, and even less so after FDR got through with demolishing the limits of federal power. But what has also been largely been true is that most of the bill of rights has been incorporated to include the states. In particular, for the sake of this discussion:



Incorporation of the Bill of Rights - Wikipedia

So my advice, for discussion purposes, is the quite dropping generalizations as if they mean something. States are NOT sovereign to violate the first amendment (or the second, etc.).

still haven't found a lawyer? see what he says about your contention that "Governors may not issue Executive Orders and attempt to enforce them as if they were law" Why do put off talking to an expert?

 

[Mashmont]

it shows that you care enough to help protect your neighbor

Protect your neighbor from what? Sanity? Prosperity?

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Protect your neighbor from what? Sanity? Prosperity?

the distinct possibility that you are a carrier. No one is immune; no, not even you

 

[Wayne Jr]

It's just the phrase 'price gouging' has a negative connotation, like getting screwed

Again, I was just answering your question.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Again, I was just answering your question.

so no connotation attached?

 

[Wayne Jr]

so no connotation attached?

I was just answering your question.

I had said that masks weren't worth the hassle. You asked 'what hassle'. I answered 'price gouging and delayed shipments'.

Fretting over masks is not worth the prices or quarantining myself for over a month until the masks I ordered arrive. Masks are not the primary precaution against covid. In fact, masks are the very last and least effective precaution. So, masks are worth the least hassle, meaning the cheapest price and easiest access.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

I was just answering your question.

I had said that masks weren't worth the hassle. You asked 'what hassle'. I answered 'price gouging and delayed shipments'.

Fretting over masks is not worth the prices or quarantining myself for over a month until the masks I ordered arrive. Masks are not the primary precaution against covid. In fact, masks are the very last and least effective precaution. So, masks are worth the least hassle, meaning the cheapest price and easiest access.

you could have just said 'no'.......

 

[Wayne Jr]

you could have just said 'no'.......

It wasn't a yes or no question.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

It wasn't a yes or no question.

from post 1038: "so no connotation attached?" yes or no? God you are weird

 

[Wayne Jr]

from post 1038:

No, post 1022, the subject at hand: "WTF is the hassle?". My post 1038 was reiterating the answer to your post 1022.

"Price gouging" is an actual thing. There's no reason for you to attribute emotion to it in the first place, so asking "so no connotation attached" is just you making a lame RedHarring, so I ignored your question in 1038 and re-answered your question from 1022 instead.

Pay attention.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

No, post 1022, the subject at hand: "WTF is the hassle?". My post 1038 was reiterating the answer to your post 1022.

"Price gouging" is an actual thing. There's no reason for you to attribute emotion to it in the first place, so asking "so no connotation attached" is just you making a lame RedHarring, so I ignored your question in 1038 and re-answered your question from 1022 instead.

Pay attention.

it was post 1037; I asked a simple yes or no question and you had to get all defensive. Originally you were complaining about price gouging because it was a hassle

 

[Wayne Jr]

it was post 1037; I asked a simple yes or no question and you had to get all defensive. Originally you were complaining about price gouging because it was a hassle

I ignored your question in my post 1038. Meaning that in my post 1038, I ignored the question that you had asked.

Noone said that you asked a question in post 1038, price-gouging is not a term that carries an inherant emotional connotation, and no complaining was occuring in my part.

You're all mixed up in every way.

 

[minnie616]

Wearing a mask has nothing to do with respect.

Perhaps my use of the word of respect was not the word I have used.

But I do think wearing a mask shows that one cares about fighting the spread of Covid 19 virus.

From Click on Detroit:

An expert’s message to Michigan residents who still aren’t wearing masks in public

Have you seen people out in public without wearing masks, even though almost everyone is wearing them and it’s required as part of Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s executive orders?

Masks have become a hot topic during the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, particularly the reluctance of many people to wear them. They aren’t perfect, but masks are important in fighting the spread of the virus.

Dr. Frank McGeorge relayed a message from a “much older and wiser retired doctor” to people who are still reluctant to wear masks.

“Wearing a mask is a contract that we make with our fellow citizens, similar to the one we have regarding stopping for red lights and stop signs,” the doctor said. "It’s not an act of surrendering your rights, but an act of good citizenship and patriotism.

Dr. McGeorge said that’s a message he “wholeheartedly agrees with.”

Read more:

An expert’s message to Michigan residents who still aren’t wearing masks in public

 

[Wayne Jr]

But I do think to wear a mask shows that one cares about fighting the spread of COVID 19 virus.

Wearing a mask is not a symbol of any kind. Wearing a mask only a dry, clinical attempt top reduce the spread of a virus. Wearing a mask is not a social symbol at all. Wearing a mask does not make you respectful, and wearing no mask does not make you disrespectful. Your behavior determines those descriptions, not the things you wear.

 

[minnie616]

Wearing a mask is not a symbol of any kind. Wearing a mask only a dry, clinical attempt top reduce the spread of a virus. Wearing a mask is not a social symbol at all. Wearing a mask does not make you respectful, and wearing no mask does not make you disrespectful. Your behavior determines those descriptions, not the things you wear.

My wearing a mask in public is helping to slow the spread of Covid in Michigan.
And it does show I care about my fellow citizens.

You said you do not live in an area that is affected by Covid 19 so your response is different.

I live in Oakland County , Michigan. Over 8,000 of my fellow Oakland County citizens have died from Covid 19.



If Wearing a mask might help slow the spread of this devastating virus in Oakland County , it is the very least I can do.

If I can NOT be on front lines fighting this virus , I will do whatever I can To help the front line people slow the spread.

Staying home when possible is one way to help and wearing a mask When out in public may help too.

 

[Glitch]

My wearing a mask in public is helping to slow the spread of Covid in Michigan.
And it does show I care about my fellow citizens.

You said you do not live in an area that is affected by Covid 19 so your response is different.

I live in Oakland County , Michigan. Over 8,000 of my fellow Oakland County citizens have died from Covid 19.



If Wearing a mask might help slow the spread of this devastating virus in Oakland County , it is the very least I can do.

If I can NOT be on front lines fighting this virus , I will do whatever I can To help the front line people slow the spread.

Staying home when possible is one way to help and wearing a mask When out in public may help too.

I don't understand your logic. If the same number of people are going to die, regardless of whether you wear a mask or not. Why does it matter if they die over a longer period, rather than to die at a quicker rate? It is the same number of deaths, only the period of time is changed. So why would that even be a consideration?

 

[ldsrptcvt]

I ignored your question in my post 1038. Meaning that in my post 1038, I ignored the question that you had asked.

Noone said that you asked a question in post 1038, price-gouging is not a term that carries an inherant emotional connotation, and no complaining was occuring in my part.

You're all mixed up in every way.

you just like to **** with people - it's your game I guess. I see here no reference to my most recent post; I made a correction that you ignored (ignoring is not a good debate tactic)

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Wearing a mask is not a symbol of any kind. Wearing a mask only a dry, clinical attempt top reduce the spread of a virus. Wearing a mask is not a social symbol at all. Wearing a mask does not make you respectful, and wearing no mask does not make you disrespectful. Your behavior determines those descriptions, not the things you wear.

in this case, what you wear or not wear is a public health behavior