It Is Not Your Constitutional Right To Not Wear A Mask

[ldsrptcvt]

An appeal to emotion, which is your prerogative.

Emotion is the antidote to reason, and that is your prerogative.

Thanks, but I'll pass. You can go outside obstructing your airway, I'll pass. eace

You want to make America great again? BRING BACK MORALS. A great economy at the expense of the citizenry is not "greatness"

 

[minnie616]

You are not up to speed on what the WHO just said? So sad.

So sad that you put your trust in WHO.

President Trump does not agree with WHO and has withdrawn all funding of WHO.

 

[Paradoxical]

So sad that you put your trust in WHO.

President Trump does not agree with WHO and has withdrawn all funding of WHO.

re you telling me that you agree with Trump now?

Justwhen is the WHO wrong and when are they right?

You believe so called experts only when they match your world view?

BTW, Trump is 100% right o the WHO. They are just money grubbers on constant vacation to exotic places spending 200 million a yer doing it.

 

[minnie616]

re you telling me that you agree with Trump now?

Justwhen is the WHO wrong and when are they right?

You believe so called experts only when they match your world view?

BTW, Trump is 100% right o the WHO. They are just money grubbers on constant vacation to exotic places spending 200 million a yer doing it.

I agree with the science that mask wearing may reduce the spread of virus by the person wearing a mask who is unaware they are a “silent carrier “ of Covid 19.

“Silent carrier” means that person is contagious with Covid 19 but are completely unaware they are.

 

[Mashmont]

Appealing to human decency wouldn't work?

Then there's the problem of WHO saying masks aren't necessary unless you're ill or are a health care professional working with the ill. Ouch.

You can bet the Marxist media will keep that story under wraps.

 

[Mashmont]

I agree with the science that mask wearing may reduce the spread of virus by the person wearing a mask who is unaware they are a “silent carrier “ of Covid 19.

“Silent carrier” means that person is contagious with Covid 19 but are completely unaware they are.

You leftwingers throw around the word 'science' all the time as if you believed in it. Too bad you don't.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Then there's the problem of WHO saying masks aren't necessary unless you're ill or are a health care professional working with the ill. Ouch.

You can bet the Marxist media will keep that story under wraps.

well, the story makes no sense according to the experiments done so far

 

[ldsrptcvt]

You leftwingers throw around the word 'science' all the time as if you believed in it. Too bad you don't.

well I do.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Then there's the problem of WHO saying masks aren't necessary unless you're ill or are a health care professional working with the ill. Ouch.

You can bet the Marxist media will keep that story under wraps.

It's a fake news misinterpretation by Faux. Who issued a technical advisory for professional caregivers. Not for Joe public, who shouldn't be wasting such masks through inappropriate use, and certainly not for Faux Noise mouthbreathers..

 

[Paradoxical]

I agree with the science that mask wearing may reduce the spread of virus by the person wearing a mask who is unaware they are a “silent carrier “ of Covid 19.

“Silent carrier” means that person is contagious with Covid 19 but are completely unaware they are.

But wait! Why were we paying the WHO 490 million a year? For bad advice Did you even bother to see their newest proclamation that ONLY people dealing with victims need them.

 

[Glitch]

well, governors can issue public mandates that are enforceable for a given time

Governors can only issue mandates the State legislature has already enacted into law. If there is no existing law enacted by the State legislature mandating masks, then the Governor may not legally issue such a mandate. If the State legislature did not enact a law giving the Governor the authority to enforce social distancing, then it is illegal for the Governor to enforce such requirements. For any period of time. The period of time makes no difference.

Governors enforce the law, they do not create them. Governors must abide by those laws enacted by the State legislature, as well as the Supreme Law of the Land. At no time do Governors ever become the absolute authority.

 

[Mashmont]

The Supreme Court is tasked with interpreting the Constitution.

Here is a decision involving public health:

Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905), was a*United States Supreme Court*case presided over by Judge John Marshall Harlan. The decision gave the collective citizenry the right to protect itself:

“Harlan ruled that personal liberties could be suspended when "the safety of the general public may demand" for example during a smallpox outbreak.[7]*He compared the smallpox outbreak to the*American Civil War*(in which three out of nine Justices at the term served) by saying that a community has the right to protect itself from both disease and military invasion.[6] “

This decision has never been overturned.

To read more about it go to U.S. Reports: Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905). | Library of Congress

Leftwingers always "forget" to tell the whole story, knowing their fellow lemmings won't question their idiotic OPs.

The ruling also limited the use of such police power, both in scope and duration: Harlan's decision supported both police power and limits on the power, and his decision would be invoked to support both in later cases. He stated his nuanced opinion on the limits of government power by saying that "general terms should be so limited in their application as not to lead to injustice, oppression or absurd consequence and not for excessive duration".

The key here is 'extended duration'. Most courts would agree three months is excessive for a police state to exist.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

But wait! Why were we paying the WHO 490 million a year? For bad advice Did you even bother to see their newest proclamation that ONLY people dealing with victims need them.

that turnaround really seems out of left field

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Governors can only issue mandates the State legislature has already enacted into law. If there is no existing law enacted by the State legislature mandating masks, then the Governor may not legally issue such a mandate. If the State legislature did not enact a law giving the Governor the authority to enforce social distancing, then it is illegal for the Governor to enforce such requirements. For any period of time. The period of time makes no difference.

Governors enforce the law, they do not create them. Governors must abide by those laws enacted by the State legislature, as well as the Supreme Law of the Land. At no time do Governors ever become the absolute authority.

It depends on the state. For example, from Using Gubernatorial Executive Orders to Advance Public Health

" Louisiana [has a] statute authorizing the governor to suspend any state statutes or regulations “if strict compliance with the provision … would in any way prevent, hinder, or delay necessary action in coping with the emergency.”

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Leftwingers always "forget" to tell the whole story, knowing their fellow lemmings won't question their idiotic OPs.

The ruling also limited the use of such police power, both in scope and duration: Harlan's decision supported both police power and limits on the power, and his decision would be invoked to support both in later cases. He stated his nuanced opinion on the limits of government power by saying that "general terms should be so limited in their application as not to lead to injustice, oppression or absurd consequence and not for excessive duration".

The key here is 'extended duration'. Most courts would agree three months is excessive for a police state to exist.

I never claimed that state public health mandates had no expiration; each mandate includes duration and any associated penalties. see post 961

 

[Ethel2]

Governors can only issue mandates the State legislature has already enacted into law. If there is no existing law enacted by the State legislature mandating masks, then the Governor may not legally issue such a mandate. If the State legislature did not enact a law giving the Governor the authority to enforce social distancing, then it is illegal for the Governor to enforce such requirements. For any period of time. The period of time makes no difference.

Governors enforce the law, they do not create them. Governors must abide by those laws enacted by the State legislature, as well as the Supreme Law of the Land. At no time do Governors ever become the absolute authority.

This must be just YOUR opinion. The Supreme Court of Kansas ruled otherwise:

The Kansas Supreme Court has voted to uphold an executive order by the state's governor limiting the size of church gatherings on Easter Sunday, ending a dramatic legal clash in which the court was asked amid a global pandemic to decide between public health and religious liberty.

In a ruling issued on Saturday, the court said Democratic Gov. Laura Kelly was within her rights when she announced an order on Tuesday limiting religious gatherings in the state to 10 people. The ruling came after an extraordinary morning session in which the court's seven justices heard oral arguments via videoconference in order to comply with social distancing guidelines.

Kansas Supreme Court Upholds Governor's Order Limiting The Size Of Easter Services | Michigan Radio

I believe that other state courts have similarly upheld a governor's order.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Leftwingers always "forget" to tell the whole story, knowing their fellow lemmings won't question their idiotic OPs.

The ruling also limited the use of such police power, both in scope and duration: Harlan's decision supported both police power and limits on the power, and his decision would be invoked to support both in later cases. He stated his nuanced opinion on the limits of government power by saying that "general terms should be so limited in their application as not to lead to injustice, oppression or absurd consequence and not for excessive duration".

The key here is 'extended duration'. Most courts would agree three months is excessive for a police state to exist.

the duration corresponds with the nature of the emergency, which intelligent citizens understand

 

[Ethel2]

Leftwingers always "forget" to tell the whole story, knowing their fellow lemmings won't question their idiotic OPs.

The ruling also limited the use of such police power, both in scope and duration: Harlan's decision supported both police power and limits on the power, and his decision would be invoked to support both in later cases. He stated his nuanced opinion on the limits of government power by saying that "general terms should be so limited in their application as not to lead to injustice, oppression or absurd consequence and not for excessive duration".

The key here is 'extended duration'. Most courts would agree three months is excessive for a police state to exist.

Presumably you speak for "most courts". Exactly what percentage of courts is "most"?

 

[Paradoxical]

that turnaround really seems out of left field

Just goes to prove that all of this relying on experts is detrimental to a humans physical and emotional health. basically, they don't know what the eff they are talking about.

This, by the way, includes all those pundits on MSM, the DNC, the WHO, CDC as well as the idiots who promote GW. This is why leftists are so screwed up. Listening to the heads of crappy organisations like the WHO, the CDC, the DNC, MSNBC, WaPo, the NY Times, etc.

 

[marke]

nice excuse

Do you think you need an excuse to reject common, misguided, mob-supported, group-think erroneous opinions?

 

[Mashmont]

I never claimed that state public health mandates had no expiration; each mandate includes duration and any associated penalties. see post 961

No, you just conveniently forgot to mention it, but really, government limitations are a key part of the ruling. But you knew none of the 20 leftwingers who 'liked' your OP are
critical thinkers and would never bother to look it up. Good call!

 

[minnie616]

You leftwingers throw around the word 'science' all the time as if you believed in it. Too bad you don't.

Apparently my use of the word science has thrown you Into a political hula hoop loop.

I should have said I trust my medical knowledge.

The Covid 19 virus is not a political issue.

It is a medical issue and like it or not we are all in this together.

 

[minnie616]

But wait! Why were we paying the WHO 490 million a year? For bad advice Did you even bother to see their newest proclamation that ONLY people dealing with victims need them.

I don’t know why you become confused when comparing apples to bananas or Medical professions to the common public.

Why do doctors wear flimsy ill fitting Paper surgical masks wheN in the opening room ?

Think about it. .. duh...give up yet ?

The answer is to slow down or reduce the spread of any germs they might have from spreading to and infecting the patient they are operating on.

 

[ldsrptcvt]

Do you think you need an excuse to reject common, misguided, mob-supported, group-think erroneous opinions?

out of hand? yes. give them time to figure this out.

 

[Wayne Jr]

The answer is to slow down or reduce the spread of any germs they might have from spreading to and infecting the patient they are operating on.

I'm not a surgeon, tho, nor am I in a sterile operating room.