It Is Not Your Constitutional Right To Not Wear A Mask

[Wayne Jr]

The Covid 19 virus is not a political issue.

Everything is a political issue. Literally everything.

 

[BlueTex]

"Where those broad limits are not exceeded, they should not be subject to second-guessing by an 'unelected federal judiciary,' which lacks the background, competence, and expertise to assess public health and is not accountable to the people," Roberts wrote.


Roberts joins court's liberals to deny California church's lockdown challenge - POLITICO


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[Mashmont]

Apparently my use of the word science has thrown you Into a political hula hoop loop.

I should have said I trust my medical knowledge.

The Covid 19 virus is not a political issue.

It is a medical issue and like it or not we are all in this together.

BS. This is purely political, and I am not in on this sham with any of you leftwingers. Today is May 30, and I still don’t know of a single person, even once removed who has had it. And I am active in this area of 250,000 people

 

[Mashmont]

Presumably you speak for "most courts". Exactly what percentage of courts is "most"?

All except the most extreme left like the 9th Circus.

 

[BlueTex]

All except the most extreme left like the 9th Circus.

How about the Supreme Court?


"Where those broad limits are not exceeded, they should not be subject to second-guessing by an 'unelected federal judiciary,' which lacks the background, competence, and expertise to assess public health and is not accountable to the people," Roberts wrote.


Roberts joins court's liberals to deny California church's lockdown challenge - POLITICO


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[Mashmont]

How about the Supreme Court?


"Where those broad limits are not exceeded, they should not be subject to second-guessing by an 'unelected federal judiciary,' which lacks the background, competence, and expertise to assess public health and is not accountable to the people," Roberts wrote.


Roberts joins court's liberals to deny California church's lockdown challenge - POLITICO


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This doesn’t address the duration. But yes, we do have a number of leftwing whacks on the Court.

 

[minnie616]

It should be noted that Executive Orders are not laws. They are instructions to the Executive Branch of government by the Chief Executive, and only applicable to the Executive Branch of government. Just as President cannot create law by issuing an Executive Order, neither can Governors nor Mayors. Only the Legislative Branch (State and federal) has the authority to enact laws. Governors, of course, have additional powers when emergencies are declared, but those powers are also defined in law by the State legislature.

No court will ever uphold any citation for violating an Executive Order. Courts are only interested in the law.

It was not a ruling by a federal court, but a Michigan court.

It was a EO that affectes Michigan residents and is accordance with the Michigan Constitution.

The US Supreme Court has decided That choosing when to lift restrictions during a pandemic is the business of the elected officials , not non elected Judges.

From USA Today :

Supreme Court won't force states to speed up church reopenings
Updated 12:45 am EDT May. 30, 2020

WASHINGTON*– A deeply divided Supreme Court refused*Friday night*to allow churches in California and Illinois to reopen*during the coronavirus pandemic with more worshippers than state*plans permit.

Chief Justice John Roberts, who cast the deciding vote in the more consequential California case announced just before midnight, said choosing when to lift restrictions during a pandemic is the business of elected officials, not unelected judges. He was joined in the vote by the court's four liberal justices.

 

[Mashmont]

The US Supreme Court has decided That choosing when to lift restrictions during a pandemic is the business of the elected officials , not non elected Judges.

From USA Today :

Yeah, this ruling is highly troubling and unconstitutional. Roberts seems to have sold his soul. This is why it’s so important to get Trump re-elected

 

[BlueTex]

Yeah, this ruling is highly troubling and unconstitutional. Roberts seems to have sold his soul. This is why it’s so important to get Trump re-elected

LMAO.. Should the churches appeal?


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[Mashmont]

LMAO.. Should the churches appeal?


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This ruling will be highly criticized. What other restriction will government lay on churches to ‘protect’ them? We expected a nutso ruling from the the three commounist women, but Roberts going along is reminiscent of his insane 0bamacare ruling. You don’t expect this in America. More like the USSR where Christians were persecuted. Oh well. I guess they’ll have to meet underground.

 

[BlueTex]

This ruling will be highly criticized. What other restriction will government lay on churches to ‘protect’ them? We expected a nutso ruling from the the three commounist women, but Roberts going along is reminiscent of his insane 0bamacare ruling. You don’t expect this in America. More like the USSR where Christians were persecuted. Oh well. I guess they’ll have to meet underground.

Need a tissue? What was amusing worthy of criticism was Kavanaugh's dissent... The churches are not be persecuted... good lord...

 

[Mashmont]

Need a tissue? What was amusing worthy of criticism was Kavanaugh's dissent... The churches are not be persecuted... good lord...

I don’t need a tissue. The churches will meet anyway, however they see fit You atheists don’t understand that, because you’ve never made any real commitment.

 

[BlueTex]

I don’t need a tissue. The churches will meet anyway, however they see fit

And if they violate the state orders the state can pull their occupancy permits and issue fines. Just like the barber in Michigan that was all the rage a few weeks ago...

Judge orders Owosso barber shop to be ‘locked and closed’

 

[Mashmont]

And if they violate the state orders the state can pull their occupancy permits and issue fines.

Plenty of ways to get around it. Meet in a park. Meet in an unofficial capacity. Christians have tweaked godless regimes for centuries. We’re still here, and will be long past any godless ruling is in effect.

 

[BlueTex]

Plenty of ways to get around it. Meet in a park. Meet in an unofficial capacity. Christians have tweaked godless regimes for centuries. We’re still here, and will be long past any godless ruling is in effect.

Here is an idea, meet via video conferencing... Like all the rational churches are doing...

 

[Mashmont]

Here is an idea, meet via video conferencing... Like all the rational churches are doing...

I’m sure the president will use this ruling to great effect, so it might be a good thing in the end

 

[BlueTex]

I’m sure the president will use this ruling to great effect, so it might be a good thing in the end

Use it how?

 

[Mashmont]

Use it how?

To energize the Christian majority, obviously.

 

[BlueTex]

To energize the Christian majority, obviously.

LOL... The thrice married man who was banging a porn star while his current wife was pregnant with his son... Good luck...

 

[Mashmont]

LOL... The thrice married man who was banging a porn star while his current wife was pregnant with his son... Good luck...

Christians forgive him for what he may have done when he was a liberal Democrat. We are a forgiving people. All about repentance.

 

[Thoreau72]

you don't know if you are infected unless you are tested every day

Yep, and that is part of the conundrum. Are we to live in the shadow of that fear for the rest of our lives? What will become of a society in which every citizen views every other citizen as a leper?

We both know the answer to that rhetorical question.

The herd immunity effect comes into play. Many people besides me are aware of the fact that once infected, a reasonably healthy immune system has a better than 98% chance of defeating the infection. Irrational fear is also infectious and contagious. Panic ensues.

 

[Thoreau72]

You want to make America great again? BRING BACK MORALS. A great economy at the expense of the citizenry is not "greatness"

When America demonstrated its Judeo Christian "morality" by overwhelmingly approving torture and war crimes, the cat was out of the bag. It does not make me happy to inform you that by its actions and words, the US is one of the most immoral countries in the world. We lie, we cheat, we steal, we commit military aggression, we detonate nuclear devices, we torture, we have the highest per capita rate of imprisonment in the world for 50 years, and so much more.

Morality is not returning to the US, sorry to say. eace

 

[Glitch]

It depends on the state. For example, from Using Gubernatorial Executive Orders to Advance Public Health

" Louisiana [has a] statute authorizing the governor to suspend any state statutes or regulations “if strict compliance with the provision … would in any way prevent, hinder, or delay necessary action in coping with the emergency.”

No, it does not depend on the State. Executive Orders only apply to the Executive Branch and no further. Regulations are a function of the Executive Branch, and therefore subject to Executive Orders. However, that does not apply to the law. Governors may choose not to enforce the law, but then they would be violating their oath of office. Laws are not something Governors have the authority to change, under any circumstance.

Governors may not issue Executive Orders and attempt to enforce them as if they were law, like they are attempting to do in leftist-controlled States. That is called a dictatorship, and it is not allowed in the US.

 

[Ethel2]

Yeah, this ruling is highly troubling and unconstitutional. Roberts seems to have sold his soul. This is why it’s so important to get Trump re-elected

Apparently it IS constitutional. The Supreme Court has ruled. I know its a bitter pill to swallow for people who want their cake and eat it too...sometimes you have to make sacrifices in order to achieve your goal. The more idiots out there who congregate unsafely and unnecessarily the longer this pandemic is going to last.

 

[Ethel2]

No, it does not depend on the State. Executive Orders only apply to the Executive Branch and no further. Regulations are a function of the Executive Branch, and therefore subject to Executive Orders. However, that does not apply to the law. Governors may choose not to enforce the law, but then they would be violating their oath of office. Laws are not something Governors have the authority to change, under any circumstance.

Governors may not issue Executive Orders and attempt to enforce them as if they were law, like they are attempting to do in leftist-controlled States. That is called a dictatorship, and it is not allowed in the US.

The Supreme Courts of several states disagree with you.