If Mueller Indicts Putin before Visit

[LowDown]

There continues to be no moral or false equivalence between safeguarding our Nation from traitorous Republicans and the hysterical nonsense from the alt-right over fear of war.

The louder you guys scream about treason the more obvious it becomes that you have nothing and know you're going to lose.

 

[Linc]

Putin is a foreign dignitary and president of a foreign country and therefore subject to diplomatic immunity. Any such action against him would be an act of war. You want war with Russia? If I'm not mistaken they have more nuclear weapons than we do.

There continues to be ZERO false-equivalence between holding putin accountable and having a war. Putin has already declared cyber war against the USA, and gops are now aiding and abetting Russia subverting our nation.

 

[Linc]

The louder you guys scream about treason the more obvious it becomes that you have nothing and know you're going to lose.

The Democratic Party wants to keep the USA strong. Republicans want to turn my Nation into the USSA.

MAGA is a racist dog whistle, and those MAGAt hats are made in China.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

The louder you guys scream about treason the more obvious it becomes that you have nothing and know you're going to lose.

It's fun to watch people melt down and desperately defend Trump, knowing all the while that Mueller is closing in, like a shark circling around a bleeding retard who fell overboard.

 

[LowDown]

It's fun to watch people melt down and desperately defend Trump, knowing all the while that Mueller is closing in, like a shark circling around a bleeding retard who fell overboard.

Mueller has nothing. Prove otherwise.

 

[haymarket]

Putin is a foreign dignitary and president of a foreign country and therefore subject to diplomatic immunity. Any such action against him would be an act of war. You want war with Russia? If I'm not mistaken they have more nuclear weapons than we do.

Why did not apply to the previously cited case of Noriega who was also the head of his own nation? That precedent has already been set.

War with Russia has already been engaged when they attacked our voting and elections systems.

 

[Linc]

Mueller has nothing. Prove otherwise.

Mueller most assuredly has more than the Benghazi kangaroo courts, unless you’ve missed those dozens of indictments. The latest indictments show where the final ones will lead.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Mueller has nothing. Prove otherwise.

Don't have to. Things will happen in terms of his own time and choosing.

And that just kills you.

Fun to watch!

 

[Linc]

Why did not apply to the previously cited case of Noriega who was also the head of his own nation? That precedent has already been set.

War with Russia has already been engaged when they attacked our voting and elections systems.

It doesn’t matter to them that Russia has already declared cyber war on the USA, that our entire electrical grid is at their mercy.

It doesn’t matter to them that Russia is behind a dozen proxy wars against the USA and Israel and more.

We know the RNC, Russian National Committee, took aid from Russia in down-ballot races, refusing not to. And now we know the RNC and Russia are actively doing this as I type.

 

[Fledermaus]

Don't have to. Things will happen in terms of his own time and choosing.

And that just kills you.

Fun to watch!

To be fair there hasn't been a day gone by without a dozen threads about Mueller "closing in" or indictments being right around the corner....

(Slight hyperbole)

How about we wait to see if and what President Trump is indicted for?

 

[cuban smokes]

I was wondering about that. this from the wikipedia entry on Manuel Noriega

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Noriega



What is the difference between Noriega and Putin in this regard?

nuclear weapons?

Kim un, pay attention here .........

 

[eohrnberger]

Nothing will happen to Putin by Mueller. Putin is a foreign dignitary who will have full diplomatic immunity. Mueller can't touch him.

Besides, do you really want to start a world war? Arresting the leader of a foreign country, particularly one that is powerful, would be a sure fired way to start one. Regardless if such an arrest is warranted or not.

Indeed. Full diplomatic immunity.
Rather surprising that someone who claims to be well informed doesn't know about this.
Might there exist other gaps in common knowledge?

 

[Tanngrisnir]

To be fair there hasn't been a day gone by without a dozen threads about Mueller "closing in" or indictments being right around the corner....

(Slight hyperbole)

How about we wait to see if and what President Trump is indicted for?

Not a problem. Always happy to wait to let investigations run their course.

 

[Excon]

Two questions. Two answers.
At least that is how it happened in the real world.

And again you ignore fact and reality that folks often answer with doubles to a single question.
And in the real world, it was two questions and one answer.

You are also ignoring reality again since the the person doing the questioning has clearly stated that he did not believe Putin heard the second question.
your position fails all around.

 

[haymarket]

And again you ignore fact and reality that folks often answer with doubles to a single question.
And in the real world, it was two questions and one answer.

You need to demand a refund for your first grade arithmetic lessons. Learning the difference between ONE and TWO is essential and you have seemed to never master that fundamental concept.

Two questions. Two answers.


Reuters reporter Jeff Mason asked on Monday,

“President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?”

and the immediate Putin answer to both parts of the question

“Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.–Russia relationship back to normal.”

 

[Excon]

You need to demand a refund for your first grade arithmetic lessons. Learning the difference between ONE and TWO is essential and you have seemed to never master that fundamental concept.

You only speak to you yourself.

Two questions. Two answers.

Not to mention your ignoring reality again, but wrong as usual. Two questions, one answer to the first question.

Reuters reporter Jeff Mason asked on Monday,

and the immediate Putin answer to both parts of the question

Just more ignorance of reality and of what the questioner himself said in regards to what he asked.


Jeff Mason has clearly stated that he did not believe Putin heard the second question.
He he doesn't absurdly think he was responding to both questions like you do.
Your position fails as usual.

 

[haymarket]

You only speak to you yourself.


Not to mention your ignoring reality again, but wrong as usual. Two questions, one answer to the first question.


Just more ignorance of reality and of what the questioner himself said in regards to what he asked.


Jeff Mason has clearly stated that he did not believe Putin heard the second question.
He he doesn't absurdly think he was responding to both questions like you do.
Your position fails as usual.

That does not even make sense. It might if Putin only gave a single answer - but he gave two answers to two questions.

It does not matter what anybody "believes" or suspects or guesses or speculates about. And that includes the guy who asked it who was standing a ways away and never talked to Putin as a follow up so he knows no more than anybody else about what was in Putins head.

Jeff Mason himself says regarding the the Putin answer "I think it's open for interpretation."

Two questions. Two answers.

 

[HowardBThiname]

Two questions. Two answers.
At least that is how it happened in the real world.

He didn't get around to the second question -- that's obvious.

 

[haymarket]

He didn't get around to the second question -- that's obvious.

He gave two answers to the two questions asked.


Reuters reporter Jeff Mason asked on Monday,

“President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?”

and the immediate Putin answer to both parts of the question

“Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.–Russia relationship back to normal.”

 

[Moderate Right]

It appears that Trump has just given a hand with four aces to Robert Mueller. Trump has announced that an invitation to the White House has been extended to Putin for a possible Fall visit. The timing of that with the November midterm elections is obvious.

What happens if Mueller acts on the public confession of Putin that he did act to help Trump get elected and did direct his agencies to help him by indicting him right along with the two dozen underlings that have already been indicted by the Grand Jury?

Reuters reporter Jeff Mason asked on Monday,


and the immediate Putin answer to both parts of the question


Notice that he did not simply say "yes I did" but replied twice that he did because the question had two parts. YES, Putin admitted that he wanted to help Trump win the election, and YES Putin admitted that he directed Russian officials to help in that effort.

After all, if Putin admits he gave the orders, is he not also criminally culpable?

And what then happens if they announce a Putin state visit for mid October and Mueller gets a Grand Jury indictment of Putin the week before? Does Putin risk arrest when he comes to America? Would hundreds of thousands of citizens - perhaps even millions take to the street demanding such action?

Would both Trump and Putin risk such a thing?

Or would Putin be protected against such an action?

Your TDS is in full swing. Mueller indicting Putin would just be yet one more level of stupidity. Maybe Trump would pardon Putin. Did you ever think of that, LOL? Every leader of a country has a preference who they would like to see win elections in other countries. Sometimes they make their preferences known and sometimes they don't. Obama tried to influence Israeli elections in order to dump Netanyahu. Most world leaders probably had a preference that Hillary win over Trump (especially those who heavily donated to the Clinton Foundation). Should they also be indicted for wanting to influence US elections? Is Mueller going to indict them as well? So what if Putin said he preferred Trump to Hillary? So what if Putin tried to influence the election? The onus is on us to stop it, not on him to stop. Leaders of countries, including the US, have tried influencing elections in other countries for decades, if not centuries. What boggles my mind is that the left seem to think 2016 is the first election Russia tried to influence, like this was something new.

 

[haymarket]

Your TDS is in full swing. Mueller indicting Putin would just be yet one more level of stupidity. Maybe Trump would pardon Putin. Did you ever think of that, LOL?

That would be amazing. Lets hope it happens.

 

[Moderate Right]

That would be amazing. Lets hope it happens.

You remind me of a maze of mirrors that has someone so confused they don't know which image is the reality.

 

[haymarket]

You remind me of a maze of mirrors that has someone so confused they don't know which image is the reality.

I see you don't like anyone answering your questions about the hypotheticals you present.

 

[Excon]

That does not even make sense. It might if Putin only gave a single answer - but he gave two answers to two questions.

It does not matter what anybody "believes" or suspects or guesses or speculates about. And that includes the guy who asked it who was standing a ways away and never talked to Putin as a follow up so he knows no more than anybody else about what was in Putins head.

Jeff Mason himself says regarding the the Putin answer "I think it's open for interpretation."

Two questions. Two answers.

Wrong as usual haymarket.
Two questions, one answer to the first.

It does not matter what anybody "believes" or suspects or guesses or speculates about.

:lamo This applies to you, not the person there asking the question, who would certainly have a better feel of what occurred than you can ever have.

Jeff Mason himself says ...

The full quote of this portion.

"I think it's open for interpretation. But I think if you look critically at it and, in particular, listen to what he was saying earlier, he as well as President Trump were denying any kind of collusion. So my suspicion is he heard the first part of my question and may not have heard the second part."

He doesn't think he heard the second part.
But of course you will not look at what happened critically because of your own bias.

Not to mention that you ignore the reality that folks often answer twice like that to a question.

 

[haymarket]

Wrong as usual haymarket.
Two questions, one answer to the first.

You need to brush up on your counting skills.

Two questions. Two answers.

Reuters reporter Jeff Mason asked on Monday,

“President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?”

and the immediate Putin answer to both parts of the question

“Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.–Russia relationship back to normal.”

Two questions. Two answers.