Democrats ARE For Open Borders

[Moderate Right]

SF littered with human feces and needles, a medieval plague breaking out in L.A., but what CA really needs to spend $98 Million on is free healthcare for illegal aliens.

Makes you want to knock them in the heads and say, "Duh"! How can they be so blind? Certainly there can't be homeless people in California. They have all the liberal answers and they have a lot of the mega rich so all they have to do is tax them to death and whamo, problem solved. Apparently they think homelessness is a federal problem, not a local one. Meanwhile, let's attract more illegals by giving them healthcare.

 

[Nickyjo]

Why do they keep denying it? They give illegals numerous incentives to come here.

California lawmakers agree to health benefits for immigrants

Good idea. Keep emergency rooms for emergencies. Payback for our cheaper produce, hotel rooms, etc.

 

[Acadia]

Makes you want to knock them in the heads and say, "Duh"! How can they be so blind? Certainly there can't be homeless people in California. They have all the liberal answers and they have a lot of the mega rich so all they have to do is tax them to death and whamo, problem solved. Apparently they think homelessness is a federal problem, not a local one. Meanwhile, let's attract more illegals by giving them healthcare.

L.A. appears to be getting worse and worse. Most Democrat-run cities are, but L.A.'s homeless problem is absolutely sinful. IMO, everything else should be taking a back seat to getting the homeless into shelters, into homes, or into treatment facilities before ONE more penny is spent on illegals. It is such a dereliction of duty for officials to put the needs of illegals before suffering American men, women and children.
Really, it ought to be a crime.

 

[Moderate Right]

L.A. appears to be getting worse and worse. Most Democrat-run cities are, but L.A.'s homeless problem is absolutely sinful. IMO, everything else should be taking a back seat to getting the homeless into shelters, into homes, or into treatment facilities before ONE more penny is spent on illegals. It is such a dereliction of duty for officials to put the needs of illegals before suffering American men, women and children.
Really, it ought to be a crime.

I wonder how all the Hollywood/LA rich would feel about a one time tax of one million dollars for anyone with a net worth over 25 million dollars and use the money to fight the homeless problem?

 

[Acadia]

I wonder how all the Hollywood/LA rich would feel about a one time tax of one million dollars for anyone with a net worth over 25 million dollars and use the money to fight the homeless problem?

I think the homeless should be directed to set up camp on Pelosi's property and ALL the rich, fat-cat Democrats' properties in California and see how fast they put that problem on the top of the list of things that need fixing.

 

[slick]

Shoot them on sight; amirite?

That's too harsh! Send them back home with an illegal alien sympathizer under every arm!

 

[slick]

:lol:

When you Refuse to Fund a Border Wall, and insist that ICE should be abolished.... that means you want Open Borders.
Even after Caravans of thousands bully their way across your border.... Dems still Refuse to fix our ridiculous asylum/immigration laws.....
There's NO DOUBT Democrats want Open Borders.

 

[Acadia]

When you Refuse to Fund a Border Wall, and insist that ICE should be abolished.... that means you want Open Borders.
Even after Caravans of thousands bully their way across your border.... Dems still Refuse to fix our ridiculous asylum/immigration laws.....
There's NO DOUBT Democrats want Open Borders.

Democrats want to import a permanent underclass voting bloc to ensure that there will never be another Republican President, and flip as many states blue a possible, making them one-party states like California. Then they'll legislate from the benches at the state and Federal level and our votes will mean ****.The ruling class apparatchiks will rule the working class and "utopia" will ensue.
And by "utopia', I mean socialism.

 

[Ikari]

I don't remember seeing many Democrats actually argue for Open Boarders. Certainly not on the whole, there may be one or two who may have said something; but I don't think that its an actual policy of the Democratic Party. I think that "Open Boarders" has become a propaganda term that doesn't actually deal with Open Boarder policies, but rather resistance to certain policies like a boarder wall. It's as pointless and meaningless as "socialism" that we throw around now to describe systems that are not actually socialist.

 

[ultmd]

Democrats want to import a permanent underclass voting bloc to ensure that there will never be another Republican President, and flip as many states blue a possible, making them one-party states like California. Then they'll legislate from the benches at the state and Federal level and our votes will mean ****.The ruling class apparatchiks will rule the working class and "utopia" will ensue.
And by "utopia', I mean socialism.

:lamo
What makes these kinds of bat-crap crazy, fact-free conspiratorial rants all the more ironic and hilarious is that they originate from the very same right-wingers who promote fake voter fraud conspiracy theories to ensure white republican rule by disenfranchising minority voters...and who PROUDLY admit to their own agenda of packing the courts with conservative judicial activists who legislate from the bench at the state and federal levels...and who STILL cannot accurately define "Socialism", even after decades of ignorant demagoguery.

 

[Moderate Right]

I think the homeless should be directed to set up camp on Pelosi's property and ALL the rich, fat-cat Democrats' properties in California and see how fast they put that problem on the top of the list of things that need fixing.

It was actually quite hilarious of the left's open borders policy of letting all of these poor souls into the country for humanitarian reasons. Then when Trump threatened to dump them on sanctuary cities, Cher was all in a panic because she said they already have too many homeless in LA. Apparently she didn't want them in her back yard but other people's back yards? Hell yes, we need to help these people. I busted a gut laughing so hard at her sheer panic.

 

[Trump]

:lamo
What makes these kinds of bat-crap crazy, fact-free conspiratorial rants all the more ironic and hilarious is that they originate from the very same right-wingers who promote fake voter fraud conspiracy theories to ensure white republican rule by disenfranchising minority voters...and who PROUDLY admit to their own agenda of packing the courts with conservative judicial activists who legislate from the bench at the state and federal levels...and who STILL cannot accurately define "Socialism", even after decades of ignorant demagoguery.

glad you're for closing the border.

 

[ultmd]

Why do they keep denying it? They give illegals numerous incentives to come here.

California lawmakers agree to health benefits for immigrants

Really dumb OP.

Please define "open borders" and tell us which (if any) Democrats support open borders.

Also....did you even bother to read your own article? If so, please explain what it has to do with "open borders".

The problem with you people actualy isn't that you don't understand 90% of the stuff you issues you feel strongly about...it's that you don't care.

You're all emotion, very little substance.

 

[ultmd]

glad you're for closing the border.

Hardly....at least, not with an 8th century physical barrier.

Glad to see you're against feel-good, but useless (if not counterproductive) policies of the white-grievance crowd.

Of course, for me it's not about latent racial resentment and cultural ignorance. Can you say the same?

 

[Trump]

Hardly....at least, not with an 8th century physical barrier.

Glad to see you're against feel-good, but useless (if not counterproductive) policies of the white-grievance crowd.

lets hear your brilliant plan

 

[ultmd]

lets hear your brilliant plan

Sure, but finish explaining yours, first.

Or, is a border wall all there is to your plan?

Lemme guess....you want to 2,000 mile border wall, and a gestapo-like domestic police force charged with rounding up and deporting 15 million "illegals", right?

 

[Trump]

Sure, but finish explaining yours, first.

Or, is a border wall all there is to your plan?

Lemme guess....you want to 2,000 mile border wall, and a gestapo-like domestic police force charged with rounding up and deporting 15 million "illegals", right?

The law should be enforced...no more no less. Don't like our laws change them or GTF out:2wave:

 

[slick]

I don't remember seeing many Democrats actually argue for Open Boarders. Certainly not on the whole, there may be one or two who may have said something; but I don't think that its an actual policy of the Democratic Party. I think that "Open Boarders" has become a propaganda term that doesn't actually deal with Open Boarder policies, but rather resistance to certain policies like a boarder wall. It's as pointless and meaningless as "socialism" that we throw around now to describe systems that are not actually socialist.

Are you serious?

Kerry slams Trump's wall, tells grads to prepare for 'borderless world'
by Pete Kasperowicz/ May 06, 2016 12:04 PM

Kerry also seemed to dismiss the importance of national borders, and said technology has reshaped the
world into one that the U.S. must engage at the risk of being left behind.

"The future demands from us something more than a nostalgia for some rose-tinted version of the past that
did not really exist in any case," he said. "You're about to graduate into a complex and borderless world."

 

[ultmd]

The law should be enforced...no more no less. Don't like our laws change them or GTF out:2wave:

Which laws are you talking about?

Do you know the laws of immigration?

Do you believe it is against "our laws" to seek amnesty or asylum?

 

[Mr Person]

Why do they keep denying it? They give illegals numerous incentives to come here.

California lawmakers agree to health benefits for immigrants

CA = all democrats. Try again.

And uh... remind me how CA has ordered state officials to prevent the feds from securing that 100ish mile (out of thousands of total) border w/ Mexico. Because people in CA voting for and not voting out politicians who want to give benefits to illegals - rightly or wrongly - is not causing there to be open borders. The feds control the border, albeit crappily.

Shame Trump wants to take the dumbest approach possible rather than the mix recommended by people who actually do care: walls in some places, sensing equipment (fiberoptic wires, drones, etc), patrols, and more elsewhere. It's a difficult terrain in parts, and simply building a wall isn't going to do ****. If migration patterns adjust in response to changes, more changes should be made. But they need to be intelligent. It's a dynamic situation.

But Trump and his supporters want a show, not a result. So the fight has to be about a stupid ****ing wall, now doesn't it? Idiocracy.

Of course the dumbest thing about all this is if we had forced national e-verify (note: this can include playing games like withholding highway funds if unrelated state measures aren't adopted.....as they did with the drinking age) and a seriously ramped up penalty/enforcement system aimed at employers of illegals like Trump Organization, we'd cut off the purpose for people who aren't genuinely fleeing violence to come here. If they couldn't get a job, they wouldn't come here. You might get some, sure, and they'd go into cash-only or illegal businesses. But you'd cut out the vast bulk of anyone who is coming here simply to try to make more money.

And of course the sickest thing about it is that many are fleeing horrible situations. Maybe we can't afford to intervene in their country and rebuild it (and we wouldn't be able to get it right anyway. We never do). But if they're legit fleeing from violence and are good people willing to work what in the precise **** is supposed to be the problem?

Extra credit: we all know that Team Trump has been actively minimizing lawful asylum and other immigration procedures, right? He's not just going after illegal immigration.





I'll not just bold this but color code it: In fact, what he is doing - clamp down on lawful immigration, announce we'll be closing borders, then advocate for the one thing least likely to stop illegals - is designed to manufacture a crisis; to increase illegal immigration while providing a solution unlikely to be adopted which, if adopted, would not stop illegal immigration.

Is there anyone who thinks about this that still thinks that Democrats are NOT for open borders?

People who aren't lying in a bid to score an Internets Point against a perceived other side.

 

[Acadia]

:lamo
What makes these kinds of bat-crap crazy, fact-free conspiratorial rants all the more ironic and hilarious is that they originate from the very same right-wingers who promote fake voter fraud conspiracy theories to ensure white republican rule by disenfranchising minority voters...and who PROUDLY admit to their own agenda of packing the courts with conservative judicial activists who legislate from the bench at the state and federal levels...and who STILL cannot accurately define "Socialism", even after decades of ignorant demagoguery.

The courts are being restored from the activist status back to the judicial status.
Oh, and "elections have consequences".

womp
womp

 

[Trump]

CA = all democrats. Try again.

And uh... remind me how CA has ordered state officials to prevent the feds from securing that 100ish mile (out of thousands of total) border w/ Mexico. Because people in CA voting for and not voting out politicians who want to give benefits to illegals - rightly or wrongly - is not causing there to be open borders. The feds control the border, albeit crappily.

Shame Trump wants to take the dumbest approach possible rather than the mix recommended by people who actually do care: walls in some places, sensing equipment (fiberoptic wires, drones, etc), patrols, and more elsewhere. It's a difficult terrain in parts, and simply building a wall isn't going to do ****. If migration patterns adjust in response to changes, more changes should be made. But they need to be intelligent. It's a dynamic situation.

But Trump and his supporters want a show, not a result. So the fight has to be about a stupid ****ing wall, now doesn't it? Idiocracy.

Of course the dumbest thing about all this is if we had forced national e-verify (note: this can include playing games like withholding highway funds if unrelated state measures aren't adopted.....as they did with the drinking age) and a seriously ramped up penalty/enforcement system aimed at employers of illegals like Trump Organization, we'd cut off the purpose for people who aren't genuinely fleeing violence to come here. If they couldn't get a job, they wouldn't come here. You might get some, sure, and they'd go into cash-only or illegal businesses. But you'd cut out the vast bulk of anyone who is coming here simply to try to make more money.

And of course the sickest thing about it is that many are fleeing horrible situations. Maybe we can't afford to intervene in their country and rebuild it (and we wouldn't be able to get it right anyway. We never do). But if they're legit fleeing from violence and are good people willing to work what in the precise **** is supposed to be the problem?

Extra credit: we all know that Team Trump has been actively minimizing lawful asylum and other immigration procedures, right? He's not just going after illegal immigration.





I'll not just bold this but color code it: In fact, what he is doing - clamp down on lawful immigration, announce we'll be closing borders, then advocate for the one thing least likely to stop illegals - is designed to manufacture a crisis; to increase illegal immigration while providing a solution unlikely to be adopted which, if adopted, would not stop illegal immigration.




People who aren't lying in a bid to score an Internets Point against a perceived other side.

the more I read this type of response the more I know Trump will prevail in Wisconsin Michigan and PA in 2020....keep it up Dems...good work:2wave:

 

[Acadia]

It was actually quite hilarious of the left's open borders policy of letting all of these poor souls into the country for humanitarian reasons. Then when Trump threatened to dump them on sanctuary cities, Cher was all in a panic because she said they already have too many homeless in LA. Apparently she didn't want them in her back yard but other people's back yards? Hell yes, we need to help these people. I busted a gut laughing so hard at her sheer panic.

It was actually a moment of lucidity for Cher to break from the Hollywood leftist pack and speak the truth: L.A. is a pit of homelessness and plague. But of course, she had to recant when the progressive mob attacked her and threatened to kick her out of the club.

It's as if she was not allowed to hold two separate beliefs at one time: No, she doesn't like Trump, and there are entirely too many homeless people on the streets of L.A., and importing MORE poverty will make it even worse, in fact, it will make it harder to help Americans living in filth and squalor.
Nope. Not permitted by the Stazi. Cher must parrot the mindthink of the collective. Individualism is not allowed.

 

[Mr Person]

the more I read this type of response the more I know Trump will prevail in Wisconsin Michigan and PA in 2020....keep it up Dems...good work

I'm afraid you won't be gaslighting anyone out of believing their lying eyes and ears with that swill. It's just another page from Karl Rove's guidebook for attempting to "demoralize" liberals on the internet.

:coffeepap

 

[PTF]

Why do they keep denying it? They give illegals numerous incentives to come here.

The liberal/Demos will deny everything to benefit themselves. They give the illegals incentives we have to earn and most times never get. The biggest incentive is using them for illegal votes to get the liberal/Demos back into power.