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Democrats ARE For Open Borders

Did he? I don't remember Obama taking any heat from his own party on anything. :) Certainly the permanent political class among the Democrats wants open borders as they see it as millions of new Democrats. They don't give a damn about the humanitarian issues--ours and the migrants'--it causes. And that makes them unfit for office.

And yes, some permanent political class Republicans are in that category too.

Liberals outraged by Obama's deportation plan - POLITICO
 
I believe you're right. Democrats look on illegals as potential voters...
Undocumented immigrants can't vote. So much for that theory.


Sanctuary cities, refusing to cooperate with the feds, refusing to enhance security at the border or to even help take care of those in custody, releasing any that are caught, even giving them some voting rights, offering all sorts of benefits and at times are better than the average citizen gets from the government.
Yeah, none of that is remotely correct.

Securing the border is a federal responsibility, period. It is not the job of any city to "enhance security at the border" or "take care of those is custody." Municipalities have no legal or moral obligation to perform the duties of the federal government.

No one has offered any undocumented immigrants voting rights. That's a lie.
No, House Democrats did not vote to allow noncitizens to vote as part of HR 1 | PolitiFact Facebook fact-checks

Nor do undocumented immigrants get "better than average benefits" from the government. They don't get Social Security, Medicare, TANF, AFDC, housing subsidies. California is only giving "Dreamers" who are basically below the poverty line access to Medicaid -- meaning most undocumented immigrants won't get Medicaid.


As the Democrats are welcoming illegals from Mexico and Central America, who tend to vote Democratic, they are trying to stop Cubans from immigrating to the U.S. Why, Cubans immigrants tend to vote Republican. Simple as that.
And yet more nonsense.

Fewer and fewer undocumented Mexicans migrate to the US each year. The number peaked in 2005 or so, and has fallen by nearly 1 million since then.

The migrants coming from Central America don't know jack about American politics. What they know is that if they stay in nations like Honduras or El Salvador, then they are likely to be killed by gangs and other types of criminal violence. They aren't motivated by the possibility that if they make it to California, the children they bring with them might qualify for Medicaid if the family is impoverished.

As to Cuba? Thousands upon thousands of Cubans fled to the US and requested asylum -- exactly like so many Central American migrants today. Cuba also routinely refused to repatriate any Cuban nationals deported from the US. Clinton struck a deal in 1996, where any Cubans intercepted on water were returned to Cuba, and any who set foot on dry land could request residency, and apply for citizenship; in return, Cuba started accepting deportees, and agreed not to retaliate against them. Obviously, this doesn't fit your crass partisan accusation.

Obama ended that policy in 2017, meaning Cubans are now treated like any other migrant. It wasn't an attempt to "stop Cuban immigration." It was part of normalizing diplomatic relations with Cuba.

If you want to see how a political party tries to stop Cubans from immigrating, look at the current White House. The Trump Administration has reduced the number of visas, and ramped up deportation of Cuban migrants. There is no exception for Cubans in all the rhetoric and enforcement, and certainly no reinstatement of a policy granting Cuban migrants a path to US citizenship just for setting foot on US soil. Hmmmmmm.
Cuban Immigrants No Longer Given Safe Haven In The U.S. : NPR
 
NO, no we're not. We're for humane treatment of the underprivileged.<--Period
 
so you blame Feds for sanitary cities?

I would hope that all cities in the USA are sanitary cities. Is your own Laguna Beach a sanitary city?
 
I agree that is is moronic not to have an eVerify mandate for US employment but that does not make it good policy to offer "safety net" assistance to foreign nationals residing illegally inside the US.

I must admit that there is validity to your objection of giving government services to someone who is here illegally. It seems to violate the very notion of common sense. However, I think our extension of those services is in keeping with our Judeo-Christian charitable traditions.
 
I must admit that there is validity to your objection of giving government services to someone who is here illegally. It seems to violate the very notion of common sense. However, I think our extension of those services is in keeping with our Judeo-Christian charitable traditions.

There are plenty of US citizens and legal immigrants that could use a bit more public charity before we decide to let the world's poor coming here illegally get more assistance. With doped up homeless folks crapping in the streets of its urban areas, the needs of illegal immigrants should be put on hold in CA.
 
There are plenty of US citizens and legal immigrants that could use a bit more public charity before we decide to let the world's poor coming here illegally get more assistance. With doped up homeless folks crapping in the streets of its urban areas, the needs of illegal immigrants should be put on hold in CA.

Again - what you are saying makes perfect sense and it is hard to intellectually find fault with that sentiment. But , in the end, we come back to the Judeo-Christian ethic of assisting the needy and that is what tears me apart on this issue stopping me short of any real support for the conservative hard line.
 
Again - what you are saying makes perfect sense and it is hard to intellectually find fault with that sentiment. But , in the end, we come back to the Judeo-Christian ethic of assisting the needy and that is what tears me apart on this issue stopping me short of any real support for the conservative hard line.

When did enforcing the nation's immigration laws become "the conservative hard line"? It's bad enough to have sanctuary city/state policies to entice illegal immigrants to move there, but to offer to give them public assistance goes entirely too far. If CA is that flush with cash then it is time to reduce their federal aid.
 
An estimated 1,000,000 illegals will be apprehended at the Southwest Border this fiscal year. Based on "gotaway" rates from the CBP, another 1,000,000 will enter without being apprehended. The vast majority are liars trying to claim refugee status.

So, being generous, 1.75 million will enter THIS YEAR. The New Democratic Party doesn't want to do anything about it. A Sanctuary State want to add free health care to the rewards they are offering to these invaders.

The question about Open Borders is carved in stone.

With that confirmed, the question is, what will everyday Americans do about it when it comes time to vote next year?

The political base of the Democratic party is mostly female & minorities. Therefore, the political base
for illegal and unjust legal immigration is female and minority generated. Unless and until
this political base is neutralized both illegal and unjust legal immigration will continue.
This political base provides the support for the downfall of the West, in general.

America has lost the ability to control the border. The loss of such a basic function of a government to maintain secure borders
is a pretty big clue that America no longer exists as a country. Certainly a great loss for us all.
“Hundreds of Illegals from Ebola-Ridden Congo Dumped in Texas, 350 More on the Way.”
 
That's not exactly being for "open borders." That's called dealing with the reality that we have millions here within our borders.


And, unlike heartless Right Wingers, we prefer they not die in the street or spend the rest of their lives in a concentration camp.

When you give illegals all kinds of incentives to come here then you are for open borders.
 
Here's the kicker... Has anyone wondered yet how Newsom and his merry group of bandits plans to pay for the healthcare insurance of many impoverish illegal immigrants? Bring back the mandate! The state will begin taxing people who don’t have health insurance....That means, people who live in the state of CA. legally...

Legislators have until June 15th to vote down this very bad idea.
 
The political base of the Democratic party is mostly female & minorities. Therefore, the political base
for illegal and unjust legal immigration is female and minority generated. Unless and until
this political base is neutralized both illegal and unjust legal immigration will continue.
This political base provides the support for the downfall of the West, in general.

America has lost the ability to control the border. The loss of such a basic function of a government to maintain secure borders
is a pretty big clue that America no longer exists as a country. Certainly a great loss for us all.
“Hundreds of Illegals from Ebola-Ridden Congo Dumped in Texas, 350 More on the Way.”

:lol:
 
Shoot them on sight; amirite?

Don't give them incentives to come here! The more incentives, the more they come. Democrats are all about giving as many incentives as possible, in other words, open borders. Then try to claim that it is the uber rich Republicans who give them jobs.
 
Don't give them incentives to come here! The more incentives, the more they come. Democrats are all about giving as many incentives as possible, in other words, open borders. Then try to claim that it is the uber rich Republicans who give them jobs.

Well, then maybe you should go after the Right Wing's partners in commerce who ****ing HIRE them!

Whine as the Right might: No jobs and they would not come.
 
There are plenty of US citizens and legal immigrants that could use a bit more public charity before we decide to let the world's poor coming here illegally get more assistance. With doped up homeless folks crapping in the streets of its urban areas, the needs of illegal immigrants should be put on hold in CA.

Given the crisis at our border and estimated million plus illegals just this year, it is the height of irresponsibility and hubris to give taxpayer money to illegals for healthcare, when CA can't even take care of Americans, rid their streets of crap and keep the plague away.
 
SF littered with human feces and needles, a medieval plague breaking out in L.A., but what CA really needs to spend $98 Million on is free healthcare for illegal aliens.

Yeah, because millions of sick people without access to medical care is not a public health concern in RightWingLand. :roll:
 
Don't give them incentives to come here! The more incentives, the more they come. Democrats are all about giving as many incentives as possible, in other words, open borders. Then try to claim that it is the uber rich Republicans who give them jobs.

Wait until they vote for "passive income" for illegals. And they will.
 
Yeah, because millions of sick people without access to medical care is not a public health concern in RightWingLand. :roll:

Wow, you do realize that the poop and needles isn't because of "sick" people, right?
 
Well, then maybe you should go after the Right Wing's partners in commerce who ****ing HIRE them!

Whine as the Right might: No jobs and they would not come.

It is mostly Democrats who hire illegals.
 
Wow, you do realize that the poop and needles isn't because of "sick" people, right?

THis thread is about sick people. If you are obsessed over poop, start a thread.
 
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