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D.C. Sued over Black Lives Matter Painted on City Streets

My! that sounds very totalitarian! Painting political messages is not a part of maintaining the streets. Maintaining the streets is fixing pot holes and occasionally repaving the streets.

Show me in the law where a city cannot paint a public street to its own liking. Lets see it. Once again, any totalitarianism is in your own mind.
 
So what you are suggesting is that local governments can do whatever the hell they want with no legal consequences?

nope - you just suggested that. Next time try using the quote feature and actually speak to what I actually said.
 
Those streets are public infrastructure. if the city allows one group to use them for political expression, they must allow other groups to do the same. Political expression is not street maintenance. You are making up your argument as you go along and looking quite silly.

nope - it was already explained to you. I am sure Trumpkins and Republicans hold the governmental reins in some cities and towns. They can paint the street there should they wish to.
 
The "poverty and blight" in the inner cities is simply one more example of the enduring impact of racism and slavery. The American legacy of white supremacy must first be undone before any real progress can be made.

You have it all wrong. The problem in the inner cities is not restricted to blacks. There are whites, hispanics, orientals, etc, living under the same conditions. The problem is decades of establishment politicians pandering to the citizens in those areas but doing nothing other then offering endless welfare entitlements and only minimally basic healthcare under medicaid. They are doing nothing to solve the generational poverty issues. Do you plan to use the legacy of the past until the end of time? You are in effect selling minorities short. You are suggesting that they are incapable of changing their plight.
 
I know how it works, I argued against the birthers at the time... Why do you suppose this became such a hot topic when Obama was running for president?

Foreign sounding name, dark skin, and Trump being a dick.
 
I don't really care. The birther movement started in the Hillary Camp. And Obama did not seem to mind. He refused to simply produce a notarized copy of his original birth certificate, as McCain did when he was challenged due to being born in Panama. Obama did finally produce the document when challenged in a bet by Trump.

Just because Trump said Hillary started it doesn't make it true. Check your facts as I just did.
 
Just because Trump said Hillary started it doesn't make it true. Check your facts as I just did.

Snopes traces the birther claim to a post on freerepublic.com, a right-wing web site.

Did Clinton Supporters Start the 'Birther' Movement?.

Even if it HAD started with Hillary, that wouldn't excuse trump promoting it and becoming the leader of it.

Some Hillary supporters DID circulate the claim as well, not the campaign as far as I've seen, but the campaign did put out the picture of Obama in Muslim dress IIRC.
 
Why are you equating school names and monuments to city streets being used for political messaging?

They're all things the government has the power to select names to use for. That's not 'equating' them but it is recognizing a similarity.
 
Nah...the racist organization is the Ku Klux Klan....founded by democrats. Your presidential candidate, Joe Biden even claimed a former klan member who had advanced to the rank of "grand cyclops" as his friend and mentor.

Yes, founded by the southerners of the Democratic Party of the distant past, who are now Republicans.
 
As I understand it, BLM started with the death of Travon Martin, and the acquittal of his killer, not with the Brown case. Check it yourself as I just did and let me know if I got it wrong.

Actually, at least according to the Black Lives Matter website, you are right:

Just a moment...

However it was still based on a lie. There is absolutely no evidence that Trayvon Martin was murdered. According to the only witness, Marton was seen pounding Zimmerman's head into the pavement. In my opinion, Zimmerman could have avoided confrontation with Martin however shooting Martin as he was getting his head pounded onto the pavement is justified self defense.

And cities voted democratic long before the great black migration from the south, when Irish and Jews dominated the population. (Italians had more republican voters, however.) And those populations were overrepresented in dealings with the police. There is a reason they are called “paddy wagons,” after all. The same urban problems existed then under democratic administrations as did under monarchy in London generations ago, or in Rome thousands of years ago.

Point is that they have virtually all been run by democrats and had police chiefs appointed by democrats.

Our democratic programs from the New Deal to the Great Society are still around (a few eliminated no doubt), changed or adapted. These went a long way towards eliminating hunger and elderly poverty. If republicans controlled the cities politically what would they do? Their attempts to cut or eliminate SS, Medicare, food stamps and the ACA have fallen flat. No one buys what Ayn Rand used to sell. The developed world, except for *part* of the GOP, accepts these sorts of programs as part of dealing with the inequities capitalism can produce. The debate is over how much, not whether.

First, republicans efforts to cut welfare entitlements are through programs such as "workfare" which have been very successful where they have been tried. As for SS, the Bush administration did propose allowing workers to voluntarily direct a small amount, roughly 2.5% of their SS taxes to a private retirement program which would have still been audited by the government. Had that been done, SS recipients would end up with more money available at retirement, not less. Ofcourse the democrats responded by making phony campaign commercials portraying republicans pushing granny in a wheel chair off a cliff. I know of no republican attempts to cut medicare. As for the ACA, that is a horrible piece of legislation that has resulted in the costs of healthcare rapidly going up, not down. In fact, speaking from personal experience, it caused me to lose my private healthcare policy. I have been on VA healthcare every since. And yes, welfare entitlements have kept people from starving, however not in a very healthy way. As for what the republicans might offer? How about getting able bodied adults out of the poverty cycle? Conservatives very much believe in offering a hand up....just not permanent handouts. Welfare entitlements should be temporary at least to those who can work.
 
Yeah. Obama released his long form birth certificate in 2011. Klayman filed a petition to deport him in 2014. That's because he's a racist.

I really don't give a **** about Klayman. Why are you so obsessed with him?
 
I know how it works, I argued against the birthers at the time... Why do you suppose this became such a hot topic when Obama was running for president?

Ask Hillary. The Hillary camp started originally started the movement.
 
Are you arguing that ANYONE can now paint on the streets? That would make it public forum. For instance, could BLM sue to be allowed to paint "Judicial Watch Sucks" on the street at 425 3rd Street?

Black Lives Matter is not an government entity any more then Judicial Watch. Black Lives matter is in fact a domestic terrorist organization as it promotes killing cops as well as burning and looting.
How would you feel if the KKK were honored by some city painting white supremacy messages on public streets?
 
In your own mind, I bet lots and lots of things sound fascist. But if you want to debate with me you should confine yourself to what I actually said instead of what is in your own mind.

I did confine myself to what you actually said. You claimed that a city government can do whatever it wants. Those were your words. You have in fact painted yourself into a corner as you often do.
 
Black Lives Matter is not an government entity any more then Judicial Watch. Black Lives matter is in fact a domestic terrorist organization as it promotes killing cops as well as burning and looting.
How would you feel if the KKK were honored by some city painting white supremacy messages on public streets?

Did the city change the name of the street to Black Live Matter Plaza? The city painted the street, not BLM. In fact, it was the public works department that painted it..
 
Judicial Watch can certainly advocate for naming a street after them but the city is under no obligation to oblige.
The mayor os going to have to explain her reasons to a judge

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Did the city change the name of the street to Black Live Matter Plaza? The city painted the street, not BLM. In fact, it was the public works department that painted it..

The city painted the street under direct order from the mayor, and she opened up a public expression forum by doing so (as opposed through legislative route to be voted).
 
I did confine myself to what you actually said. You claimed that a city government can do whatever it wants. Those were your words. You have in fact painted yourself into a corner as you often do.

Quote me saying just that..... - that city government can do whatever it wants.
 
Did the city change the name of the street to Black Live Matter Plaza? The city painted the street, not BLM. In fact, it was the public works department that painted it..

Painting anyone on the asphalt other then traffic related lines and perhaps bike paths is political. Doing so turned it into a public forum. Judicial Watch is right to ask for similar access. I think they have an excellent case.
 
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