Biden launches brutal ad answering Trump’s question: ‘Were you better off 4 years ago?’

[TU Curmudgeon]

Excellent spin.

Only recognizing that you are comparing what happened during a 10 month period to what happened during a 36 month period.

During the time that Mr. Trump was "in control" COVID-19 resulted in an average death rate of 1,342.11 per day

During the time that Mr. Biden was "in control" COVID-19 resulted in an average death rate of 770.67 per day.

The average daily death rate due to CIVID-19 when Mr. Biden was "in charge" was 57.42% of that of the average daily death rate due to COVID-19 when Mr. Trump was "in charge".

BTW, did you know that if a hat wearer loosens the headband on their hat it assists in the flow of blood to the hat wearer's brain?

 

[Uriah]

800,000 dead under Biden

1500 a week STILL dying under Biden


wasn't even a very good lie ad to be honest...

We all remember that during the Trump administration the evening news gave us a daily body count of covid deaths. Biden? The media ignores it.

 

[Uriah]

Only recognizing that you are comparing what happened during a 10 month period to what happened during a 36 month period.

During the time that Mr. Trump was "in control" COVID-19 resulted in an average death rate of 1,342.11 per day

During the time that Mr. Biden was "in control" COVID-19 resulted in an average death rate of 770.67 per day.

The average daily death rate due to CIVID-19 when Mr. Biden was "in charge" was 57.42% of that of the average daily death rate due to COVID-19 when Mr. Trump was "in charge".

BTW, did you know that if a hat wearer loosens the headband on their hat it assists in the flow of blood to the hat wearer's brain?

Cool story. Thanks. Why isn't the media giving us the daily death numbers like they did for President Trump?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

800,000 dead under Biden

1500 a week STILL dying under Biden


wasn't even a very good lie ad to be honest...

That puts COVID-19 less likely to be lethal than Heart Disease, Cancer, Accidents, Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease, CVAs, Alzheimer's, and just slightly less lethal than Diabetes are, so your point is - what?

BTW, the rate was 9,394.77 per week when Mr. Trump was in charge. Do you know which is more

___ 9,394.77

or

___ 1,500?​

(Feel free to consult a numerical expert who has completed Grade three arithmetic to supplement your knowledge.)

 

[stealthycat]

That puts COVID-19 just slightly less likely to be lethal Diabetes is, so your point is - what?

BTW, the rate was 9,394.77 per week when Mr. Trump was in charge. Do you know which is more

___ 9,394.77

or

___ 1,500?​

(Feel free to consult a numerical expert who has completed Grade three arithmetic to supplement your knowledge.)

I guess my point is Biden has what, 770,000 dead on his watch and adding 1500 a week to those numbers

Yeah .... that's my point.

Any President with that many deaths shouldn't be President. Agree?

 

[Allan]

Biden ad rakes Trump over COVID response 4 years ago

President Biden’s campaign hit former President Trump over his handling of the COVID-19 pandemic in a new ad Thursday, answering his rhetorical question if Americans are better off now than four ye…

thehill.com

I think the question of whether we are better off now is a resounding "Yes". COVID sucked and so did Trump's response to it.

This is the conversation we need to have coming into the election.

1,000 Americans dying every day and his response was "it is what it is".

Psyco.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Cool story. Thanks. Why isn't the media giving us the daily death numbers like they did for President Trump?

Because COVID-19 is no longer an "emergency" that is of incredible national threat.

Since the average daily death rate due to COVID-19 is now LOWER than the average daily death rate from Heart Disease, Cancer, Accidents, Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease, CVAs, Alzheimer's, and Diabetes, you would be more justified in asking why the media isn't giving America the daily death numbers from Heart Disease, Cancer, Accidents, Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease, CVAs, Alzheimer's, and Diabetes.

BTW, the media WAS giving Americans the daily death rate from COVID-19 for a much longer period while Mr. Biden was in charge (roughly for 935 days) than for when Mr. Trump was in charge (roughly 335 days) - but feel free to continue to ignore reality in your search for the holy grail of Trumpian Infallibility.

 

[Uriah]

Because COVID-19 is no longer an "emergency" that is of incredible national threat.

Since the average daily death rate due to COVID-19 is now LOWER than the average daily death rate from Heart Disease, Cancer, Accidents, Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease, CVAs, Alzheimer's, and Diabetes, you would be more justified in asking why the media isn't giving America the daily death numbers from Heart Disease, Cancer, Accidents, Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease, CVAs, Alzheimer's, and Diabetes.

BTW, the media WAS giving Americans the daily death rate from COVID-19 for a much longer period while Mr. Biden was in charge (roughly for 935 days) than for when Mr. Trump was in charge (roughly 335 days) - but feel free to continue to ignore reality in your search for the holy grail of Trumpian Infallibility.

It was Fauci infallibility. The biggest mistake of the Trump administration was listening to Fauci.

 

[Zyphlin]

Smart politics by the Biden team = make this about now versus 4 years ago (In the midst of COVID)

Smart politics by the Trump team = make this about now versus 5 years ago (pre-COVID)

Will come down to which team makes their case better and which one the public buys. Basically…do they blame Trump for COVID and thus place the circumstances of the economy and their life at that time in his feet? Or do they consider it sort of an “act of god” and look at the pre-COVID portion of his time compared to the post-COVID time of Biden.

Time will tell, but this is a smart move politically on how to deal with the “better off before” narrative.

 

[iguanaman]

The problem was that the economy was overstimulated. This caused inflation, and most people saw their wages drop. That's what people care about. They don't care if the unemployment rate is 3.8% vs 4.1%.

Hmm... Trump slashed taxes on corporations and the wealthy and spent like a drunken sailor before covid despite economists that said the economy did not need any stimulus and it was time to cut deficits not increase them. I wonder if that might have had some effect on inflation post covid. I also think people do care whether they have a job.

Donald Trump Built a National Debt So Big (Even Before the Pandemic) That It’ll Weigh Down the Economy for Years​

The “King of Debt” promised to reduce the national debt — then his tax cuts made it surge. Add in the pandemic, and he oversaw the third-biggest deficit increase of any president.

https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

I guess my point is Biden has what, 770,000 dead on his watch and adding 1500 a week to those numbers

Yeah .... that's my point.

Did you know that, on average, 66,310.75 Americans die each week?

Did you know that more Americans die from Diabetes each week than die due to COVID-19?

Your "point" is that you just love regurgitating partial statistics without context in order to push your political agenda.

In short, you don't actually have a point.

Any President with that many deaths shouldn't be President. Agree?

Since Mr. Trump had 9,394.77 people dying due to COVID-19 each week, wouldn't you say that that means that he is around SIX TIMES less deserving of being President than Mr. Biden is?

 

[Rogue Valley]

 

[LetsGoBrandon]

The vaccines were developed in GERMANY. Not a dime of the "Operation Warp Speed" money was spent in GERMANY. "Operation Warp Speed" had NOTHING whatsoever to do with the development of the COVID-19 vaccine. Admittedly the "Operation Warp Speed" money that was shoveled into the US pharmaceutical industry DID boost the profits of the US pharmaceutical industry.

I'll stop there and not read any further as you are compeltely in left field on that claim. even your widdle buddy Dr Fauci lauds Operation Warp speed for the acceration of the development of the Covid Vaccines

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/operation-warp-speed-trump-pfizer-moderna-vaccine-1.5806820

 

[Bullseye]

Biden ad rakes Trump over COVID response 4 years ago

President Biden’s campaign hit former President Trump over his handling of the COVID-19 pandemic in a new ad Thursday, answering his rhetorical question if Americans are better off now than four ye…

thehill.com

I think the question of whether we are better off now is a resounding "Yes". COVID sucked and so did Trump's response to it.

This is the conversation we need to have coming into the election.

Don't forget that Trump's "sucky" response laid the groundwork for Biden's so-so response. Trump got the economy back on its feat, took care of the immediate problems and gave Biden vaccines to work with. And whoa annual 2% inflation throughout his term; Biden did that much in two months and repeated it over and over.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

It was Fauci infallibility. The biggest mistake of the Trump administration was listening to Fauci.

Yes, I'm sure that that is what your Blockwart has told you you are required to believe.

 

[stealthycat]

Did you know that, on average, 66,310.75 Americans die each week?

yes, deaths don't really matter to Americans

Did you know that more Americans die from Diabetes each week than die due to COVID-19?

yes, we're an unhealthy nation and deaths from diabetes has been climbing yearly for year hasn't it?

Your "point" is that you just love regurgitating partial statistics without context in order to push your political agenda.

me?

I'm with Joe Biden - anyone with that many death shouldn't be POTUS - are you saying Joe Biden was lying when he said that? or just political pandering and weaponizing a historical pandemic crisis ?

In short, you don't actually have a point.

Since Mr. Trump had 9,394.77 people dying due to COVID-19 each week, wouldn't you say that that means that he is around SIX TIMES less deserving of being President than Mr. Biden is?

well, if you're going to blame Trump for 800,000 dead, you also have to give him credit for bringing the number down to 1500 a week

which are you going to do ? don't let those political bias colored glasses get in your way but I'm going to guess you'll blame Trump for everything BAD and give credit to Biden for everything GOOD

am I close ?

 

[Slartibartfast]

Don't forget that Trump's "sucky" response laid the groundwork for Biden's so-so response. Trump got the economy back on its feat, took care of the immediate problems and gave Biden vaccines to work with. And whoa annual 2% inflation throughout his term; Biden did that much in two months and repeated it over and over.

Biden has added far more jobs than Trump, who had negative job growth.

 

[uptower]

 

[Bullseye]

Biden has added far more jobs than Trump, who had negative job growth.

Well duh, there was this little thing called a Pandemic. From the depth of the pandemic until Biden took over Trump restored 12 million jobs; in his first full year as President Biden added 9 million. Biden's latest employment number is ONLY 5 million more that Trump's highest, non-Pandemic number.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Well duh, there was this little thing called a Pandemic. From the depth of the pandemic until Biden took over Trump restored 12 million jobs; in his first full year as President Biden added 9 million. Biden's latest employment number is ONLY 5 million more that Trump's highest, non-Pandemic number.

Exactly, we are better off than we were four years ago.

 

[Bullseye]

Exactly, we are better off than we were four years ago.

Yeah, $5 gasoline and 17% higher prices are a blast.

 

[SuperDS77]

Biden ad rakes Trump over COVID response 4 years ago

President Biden’s campaign hit former President Trump over his handling of the COVID-19 pandemic in a new ad Thursday, answering his rhetorical question if Americans are better off now than four ye…

thehill.com

I think the question of whether we are better off now is a resounding "Yes". COVID sucked and so did Trump's response to it.

This is the conversation we need to have coming into the election.

Yeah because we all know that question means "literally to the day" comparison to the most one-off (hopefully) circumstance in the history of the country.

This is akin to the lies that Biden "created" 15 million new jobs or "cut the deficit by 1/7 trillion".

 

[Slartibartfast]

Yeah, $5 gasoline and 17% higher prices are a blast.

I have not paid $5 for gas (and neither have most people), not has anything gone up 17%, except for housing, which has been like that for multiple decades.

You should try looking at actual economic data.

 

[LetsGoBrandon]

The mechanism behind the approval scheme was actually developed by pfizer in germany and imported into the US.

Read and learn. https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/operation-warp-speed-trump-pfizer-moderna-vaccine-1.5806820

However, the real issue here is how badly Trump handled the pandemic and did not lead federally in terms of masks, supplies, etc, but let the states fight among themselves.

Actually he did lead federally in temrs of masks supplies, etc. He invoked the Defense Production Act to accelerate getting those supplies manufactured and distributed. As for the ludicrous claim that he let the states fight amongst themselves, the opposite is true. He regularaly communicated with all 50 state governors to inquire about anything and everthing they needed.

Additionally, he downplayed the severity of the problem. A lot of people died as a result.

He did no such thing. He just did not run around like chicken little screaming "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" He did not create a panic. As for why alot of people died, there was a rather largbe CDC failure in regards to Covid testing, however the real issues were the moronic governor of New York emptying hospitals of senior citizen Covid patierts into ill prepared nursing homes and the demorat party enabling millions of illegal immigrants to cross our southern borders with no eartly idea if they had Covid or has been tested for Covid.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Read and learn. https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/operation-warp-speed-trump-pfizer-moderna-vaccine-1.5806820

Actually he did lead federally in temrs of masks supplies, etc. He invoked the Defense Production Act to accelerate getting those supplies manufactured and distributed. As for the ludicrous claim that he let the states fight amongst themselves, the opposite is true. He regularaly communicated with all 50 state governors to inquire about anything and everthing they needed.

He did no such thing. He just did not run around like chicken little screaming "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" He did not create a panic. As for why alot of people died, there was a rather largbe CDC failure in regards to Covid testing, however the real issues were the moronic governor of New York emptying hospitals of senior citizen Covid patierts into ill prepared nursing homes and the demorat party enabling millions of illegal immigrants to cross our southern borders with no eartly idea if they had Covid or has been tested for Covid.

Here you go, learn something

Germany funded the development of Pfizer's COVID vaccine—not U.S.'s Operation Warp Speed

The Trump administration nevertheless is taking credit for the breakthrough.

fortune.com

Pfizer Vaccine’s Funding Came From Berlin, Not Washington

It’s said that success has many authors, and the encouraging data from Pfizer Inc.’s experimental Covid-19 vaccine had plenty of people in Washington lining up to take credit.

www.bloomberg.com