Would You Ever Vote AOC For President?

[OlNate]

Not only YES, but H-E Double Hockey Sticks YES!!!

I would love to see the exploded heads and crapped knockers of Right Wing Nuts if on some early November election night AOC would be declared our "president elect".

Have no clue haw she might be at being president, but the scene of Right Wing defeat to that socialist would be true poetry!

lol...this is how Trump became president, after all...

 

[Mongidig]

lol...this is how Trump became president, after all...

This is how he is gonna win in 2020.

 

[lurchadams]

Yes, she is of age (in this hypothetical). This is a generic question. No opponents are named. This is just a question of would you ever vote her president or not.

It is idiotic to start a thread about AOC being president. She's only been in congress for 10 minutes.

Right-wing nuts are so terrified of her. Right-wing nuts are the ultimate childish, frightened snowflakes. I'm loving them shudder in fear in the thought of any woman in a leadership role

 

[OlNate]

This is how he is gonna win in 2020.

Oh, I dunno...since the right has lowered the bar to making electing a president more about flipping the other side off, vs. finding a real leader to benefit your country, and since, per the popular vote, there are more lefties than righties...hehe...you might end up with this ex-barista in the WH next time around... :lol:

I mean...it couldn't be worse. :shrug:

 

[LouC]

lol...this is how Trump became president, after all...

Arguable!

The difference would be I am smart enough to know my "exploding head" vote for AOC would be completely contrary to the welfare of the country, but I would do it anyway, for the effect of the "exploding heads".

The Donnie Deplorable Dummys who voted for him, to make Liberal heads explode, also believed then and now that his presidency would benefit the nation.

It is a subtle difference but a profound one.

 

[OlNate]

Arguable!

The difference would be I am smart enough to know my "exploding head" vote for AOC would be completely contrary to the welfare of the country, but I would do it anyway, for the effect of the "exploding heads".

The Donnie Deplorable Dummys who voted for him, to make Liberal heads explode, also believed then and now that his presidency would benefit the nation.

It is a subtle difference but a profound one.

Maybe...but I would say she's nowhere near ready for the job. Not because she's a woman, not because she's a lefty, but because she is inexperienced. It would be an unwise move, no matter how impressive some of her initiatives are. You still need to understand how to bring them to fruition.

Just my opinion.

 

[madasheck]

She’s the wave of the future. She’ll be the rule not the exception. And I’m happy to see that.


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[Mongidig]

She’s the wave of the future. She’ll be the rule not the exception. And I’m happy to see that.


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Stupid is the wave of the future

 

[LouC]

Maybe...but I would say she's nowhere near ready for the job. Not because she's a woman, not because she's a lefty, but because she is inexperienced. It would be an unwise move, no matter how impressive some of her initiatives are. You still need to understand how to bring them to fruition.

Just my opinion.

Oh, I totally agree, give her a successful run in the House, then maybe a term in the Sensate then "bang" into the White House.

She is definitely in need of some positive learning. Her anti Amazon stance is a perfect example, it was a case of cutting off the nose to spite the face.

However, it is funny, ironically, on another politics board, her anti Amazon stance for New York aligned with many Republicans anti Amazon stance for New York on that board.

 

[LouC]

Stupid is the wave of the future

Trump is the poster boy for that sentiment!

 

[LouC]

She’s the wave of the future. She’ll be the rule not the exception. And I’m happy to see that.


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Hi Guy!

I love her, flaws and all, because I know even on her flat out worst day, in the middle of her worst position on any topic, I know she is capable of learning but more importantly she truly has at heart what she feels is best for the people.

As opposed to Fat Donald who is proven to be incapable of learning and is only, at heart, concerned for what is best for #1.

 

[Mongidig]

Oh, I totally agree, give her a successful run in the House, then maybe a term in the Sensate then "bang" into the White House.

She is definitely in need of some positive learning. Her anti Amazon stance is a perfect example, it was a case of cutting off the nose to spite the face.

However, it is funny, ironically, on another politics board, her anti Amazon stance for New York aligned with many Republicans anti Amazon stance for New York on that board.

Even people in her party thinks she's stupid!

 

[ryzorsden]

If she can make a good cup of coffee, I'll vote for her to keep her barista job.

SHe's got more education and guts than you. Maybe you should run for office. You'll get your ass kicked because you're a worthless POS.

 

[DH Kirkwood]

Even people in her party thinks she's stupid!

You haven't brought up a single substantive point against her. All you've been saying is that she's young, and she sounds stupid. The latter is subjective, and I don't argree. You, on the other hand, kind of sound like a screaming child.

For instance, this point that you're trying to make is insanely ignorant. In eight words, you've proven that you don't even have a basic understanding of what's been going on in the Democratic party. At least learn something about your opposition before you attempt to speak.

Yes, people in her own party hate her. No ****ing ****. She's part of an attempt at a hostile takeover of the Democratic Party. That's Justice Democrats.

I actually voted for Jill Stein, unlike the fellow you've been talking to, but before you accuse me of throwing my vote to Trump, keep in mind that I was never going to vote for HRC in the first place. I was done with politics towards the end of Obama's administration. Exiting high-school, I was extremely passionate about politics, and I had a lot more faith in the Democratic party than I should have, not knowing anything about the rise of neliberalism, or just how beholden our represenatives are to their wealthy donors.

Have you ever wondered why the two opposing parties seem to trade off consistently? It's because neither party really instills the confidence neccessary to bring people to the voting booths. The Democrats should be able to curb-stomp the Republicans, but they can't, because they've undermined their own niche by climbing into bed with corporations. We do not have a 'business-friendly' party and a 'worker's' party. What we have are 'The New 1980's/1990's Republicans' and 'Post-NeoCon Republicans'. Trump isn't a fluke, he's a product of the course of the public discourse over the last few decades. He's the logical conclusion to the Republican's subtle dog-whistling and the Democrats' poor represenation of the under classes in favor of paying lip-service to identity politics.

 

[LouC]

Even people in her party thinks she's stupid!

Even people in the Republican party KNOW Donald Trump is stupid.

:2wave:

 

[Moderate Right]

It is idiotic to start a thread about AOC being president. She's only been in congress for 10 minutes.

Right-wing nuts are so terrified of her. Right-wing nuts are the ultimate childish, frightened snowflakes. I'm loving them shudder in fear in the thought of any woman in a leadership role

Well, if you check the results of the poll, the right aren't the only ones who wouldn't ever want her president. In fact, even if you add together both the "yeses" and the "others", "no" still wins out. There are plenty on the left who think she's an idiot. Michael Bloomberg is the latest to say how stupid it was to chase Amazon out of New York. The right aren't scared of AOC, they actually like her because they can use her to show what extremists many on the left have become.

 

[Surrealistik]

Excuses excuses excuses. Your very own people have found these things to be infeasible but don't let that stop you because you think that with the US government's borrowing power you can finally do it.

These are elucidations, not excuses. It is simply a point of fact that policy and governance per people who are roundly considered 'moderates' have been an absolute disaster, and has inflated the national debt by trillions, while miring us in war, historic income inequality and diminishing life expectancy.

And Pelosi and Schumer, and any other Blue Dog or New Dem you can think of aren't my 'own people', nor do they have any interest in supporting our policies as they conflict with the interests of the donors they consummately service. Pelosi is a neoliberal third way shill who fellates special interests like health insurers as she sells the progressive platform down the river.

 

[Moderate Right]

These are elucidations, not excuses. It is simply a point of fact that policy and governance per people who are roundly considered 'moderates' have been an absolute disaster, and has inflated the national debt by trillions, while miring us in war, historic income inequality and diminishing life expectancy.

And Pelosi and Schumer, and any other Blue Dog or New Dem you can think of aren't my 'own people', nor do they have any interest in supporting our policies as they conflict with the interests of the donors they consummately service. Pelosi is a neoliberal third way shill who fellates special interests like health insurers as she sells the progressive platform down the river.

Only in a bizarro world could someone say that extremists are better than moderates. How can you say that your extreme universe is better than someone else's extreme universe? How do you think Hitler felt about his extreme universe? Don't you think he would pick his extreme universe over the other's extreme universe? Isn't that how you feel, just like Hitler felt? Extremists are dangerous to everyone, including themselves.

 

[Surrealistik]

Only in a bizarro world could someone say that extremists are better than moderates. How can you say that your extreme universe is better than someone else's extreme universe? How do you think Hitler felt about his extreme universe? Don't you think he would pick his extreme universe over the other's extreme universe? Isn't that how you feel, just like Hitler felt? Extremists are dangerous to everyone, including themselves.

Progressive 'extremists' are the centrists of the rest of the developed world.

The United States is indeed bizarro world per its political frame of reference.

 

[Moderate Right]

These are elucidations, not excuses. It is simply a point of fact that policy and governance per people who are roundly considered 'moderates' have been an absolute disaster, and has inflated the national debt by trillions, while miring us in war, historic income inequality and diminishing life expectancy.

And Pelosi and Schumer, and any other Blue Dog or New Dem you can think of aren't my 'own people', nor do they have any interest in supporting our policies as they conflict with the interests of the donors they consummately service. Pelosi is a neoliberal third way shill who fellates special interests like health insurers as she sells the progressive platform down the river.

Got news for you, politics corrupts. Do you know how many people have gone into politics virgins? You are naive to think you can vote people into office who will retain their virtue.

 

[Surrealistik]

Got news for you, politics corrupts. Do you know how many people have gone into politics virgins? You are naive to think you can vote people into office who will retain their virtue.

Bernie certainly did.

That said, money needed to get out of politics yesterday.

 

[Moderate Right]

Progressive 'extremists' are the centrists of the rest of the developed world.

The United States is indeed bizarro world per its political frame of reference.

The US is the greatest country on Earth with the largest economy. We got there because of who we are and how we got there. I find it completely amazing that you lefties attack Trump for his campaign theme of Make America Great Again because you believe America was already great except for this, that, the other thing, and a million other additional things. There's a reason why the superpowers of yesteryear, Great Britain, France, Spain, Itally, and Portugal are but a speck compared to how the US grew in comparison.

 

[Surrealistik]

The US is the greatest country on Earth with the largest economy. We got there because of who we are and how we got there. I find it completely amazing that you lefties attack Trump for his campaign theme of Make America Great Again because you believe America was already great except for this, that, the other thing, and a million other additional things. There's a reason why the superpowers of yesteryear, Great Britain, France, Spain, Itally, and Portugal are but a speck compared to how the US grew in comparison.

It's not really the greatest country on earth per a number of very relevant metrics ranging from economic freedom (and freedom in general), to standard of living, healthcare, education (except at the highest echelons of post-secondary), quality of life, democratic integrity, freedom of the press, life expectancy, and so on.

GDP alone does not the greatest nation make sadly.

 

[Moderate Right]

Bernie certainly did.

That said, money needed to get out of politics yesterday.

Bernie steals from the Democrats for his own advantage. Now I like Bernie personally (not his ideas) but, there is a reason why he ran in 2016 on the Democratic ticket instead of trying an Independent run. You can bet your bottom dollar that if he had won the Democratic nomination he would have eagerly accepted every dime from the DNC and Superpacs and the Hollywood elites to get him elected. Why do you think he was so upset and sued the DNC for cutting his access to voter data files? Because he wanted to use the millions of dollars spent by and donated to the DNC to gather this information for his own campaign.

Let me ask you this question since you claim to be a virgin and wish to remain a virgin. Let's say that Bernie wins the 2020 Democratic nomination and, as luck would have it, he runs against Trump. Let's say that Trump accepts any and all legal contributions, as big and as large as possible and puts millions of his own money into the kitty. The Koch brothers, Wall Street, and right wing superpacs spend billions to get Trump re-elected because the thought of socialist Bernie scares the bejesus out of them. Would you still want Bernie to remain a virgin, or, would you want him to lose his virginity and fight fire with fire, because the end justifies the means. Is losing your virginity better than having Trump win a second term?

No matter how hard you try, politics corrupts. Now I totally agree with you about money in politics but, the reality is it is here to stay. Lobbyists aren't going anywhere. Citizen's united isn't going anywhere, even if Bernie were to win.

 

[VanceMack]

All you have to do is look to Venezuela to see your future under an AOC.

And sadly...people would still say yes.