Woman on Woman Body Shaming

[Henrin]

You don't?

Is that because you think the levels of aggression and abuse haven't changed?

Why are you surprised by that? What makes you think society can promote aggression in women and somehow not get an increase of aggression in women?

 

[Dragonfly]

Teen girls becoming more violent, study shows | Radio New Zealand News

Why Girls Are Getting More Violent - ABC News

Female Bullying and Girl Bully Facts

Women Are The Worst Kind Of Bullies - Business Insider

Freelance writer Samantha Brick caused a stir with her recent Daily Mail article where she explained that being beautiful has been a setback for her in life because other women are threatened by her beauty.

Brick's claims bring up a bigger point, which is that as women have become more prominent players in the workplace, competition between females has become fiercer. Ruchika Tulshyan at Forbes reports that this aggressiveness has led to the rise of "woman-on-woman" harassment.

 

[William Rea]

You don't?

Is that because you think the levels of aggression and abuse haven't changed?

No, it's because I haven't seen any evidence.

 

[William Rea]

I already made my point.

You thought you were talking to someone that was white, likes skinny women, and never worked out or had to reshape their body after a major bio-medical incident happened to their body.

You can barely walk--even a month after surgery--from a abdomen bullet wound. At least with a .40 caliber or larger. Ask any doctor or nurse on this website. And it certainly was impossible for me to have worked out in that early recovery phase. And I knew I looked sickly looking. And I knew zero women would find me attractive. But I did not blame matriarchy for how unfair they were on me.

I knew life was unfair and I accepted that and arose to the challenge. Eventually. For a short time. Like I said... I still hate the way I look but that's up to me to change. I don't "blame women."

There are women that work their bottom off physically in gyms etc, and far more than I have. I've trained with some of them in boxing gyms. And I've seen some on TV too. So, there are women that actually do put in major sweat and time to acquire the physique or strength or skills they have. Of course, there are women like Halle Berry born genetically blessed with good looks. All she has to do is roll out of bed and she looks good. Other women have to workout hard. Life sucks. But you find men born genetically blessed too in being tall and in that perfect range of not being skinny nor fat. Others of us have to work harder (you're not altering your height though).

More importantly I did not ridicule that woman for her looks. So, I appreciate not being blamed for it (like someone else pointed out blaming "Jews"). It was some woman she met that made the insult to her. Generally, I worry more about myself than feeling the need to critique a woman on how she looks. I've got my own problems and my own flaws. I don't have time to worry about some woman's possible physical flaws.





See... homie recognizes reality that some men were genetically gifted, big and worshiped their whole life. The exact same women in the West that yap their mouths about patriarchy, worshiped and chased after these men too. It's natural. People like good looking people.

Damn, you went first use nuclear with the race card on a hair trigger there.

I actually thought I was talking to a human being but, if simply being a human being is a big issue for you then that's your problem not mine.

Anyway, your point?

 

[Dragonfly]

No, it's because I haven't seen any evidence.

Teen girls becoming more violent, study shows | Radio New Zealand News

Why Girls Are Getting More Violent - ABC News

Female Bullying and Girl Bully Facts

Women Are The Worst Kind Of Bullies - Business Insider

Read the above links....plus this

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2538724/

Over the past two decades, rates of aggressive behavior have increased disproportionately for girls as compared to boys.

According to the US Surgeon General’s report (2001), studies of self-reported engagement in serious aggression show the gap between adolescent girls and boys has shrunk by approximately 50%.

 

[Dragonfly]

This is interesting too:

https://www.psychologies.co.uk/work/adult-bullying-on-the-rise.html

But our dirty secret is very much a reality. A recent UK study of more than 5,000 workers revealed that at least 45 per cent of bullies are women. And who are their victims? According to research, women attack other women 71 per cent of the time.

 

[Dragonfly]

Girls on the Attack, Combatting the rise in female bullying. | PARENTGUIDE News

What’s happening to girls today? According to the FBI, national assault arrests for girls jumped 40.9 percent between 1992-2003, while similar arrests for boys dropped by 16.4 percent.

“Traditional aggression roles are changing,”
“Aggression in girls and young women has gotten significantly more dangerous and women have begun to close the gap with the guys.”

 

[Henrin]

So like I said, teaching girls to be tough actually increases the amount of violence they commit. How is that at all surprising? If you raise someone around images of people like them doing violent things while telling them it is ok to be more aggressive (which is what people do with girls these days) then they will be more open to the behavior themselves. That's pretty basic human psychology. If you want women to be back to the way they were in terms of violence then you have to take a step back from this whole female empowerment thing and realize that teaching violence to men or women will only increase violence. How that is not obvious is beyond me.

 

[Dragonfly]

Why are modern women are becoming more aggressive? | Daily Mail Online

Why ARE modern women so aggressive? It's been called the dark side of equality - a surge in respectable women flying into violent rages for the most trivial reasons

1957, men were responsible for 11 violent offences for every one perpetrated by a woman — today, that is four to one.

 

[Henrin]

If women want to be so aggressive then we should probably drop the idea that men can't treat them as equals. I think allowing men to treat them as equals in a fight would calm the issue down a lot between the sexes. As for the issue between women, well, I will leave that up to feminists since they won't like my idea at all there.

Why would my idea lower female violence towards men? Because women wouldn't feel they could get away with it as easily. They would know going in that the guy would hit them as hard as they wanted and as often as they felt like. They wouldn't feel like doing things like going up to some guy and start yelling at him because they're pissed that day for whatever reason, but instead realize that they won't get away with it.

Another thing that needs to happen regardless is equal sentencing for assault. Women need to feel the same level of hurt men get when they decide to assault someone. The government should not be ***** footing around them because they're women.

 

[FastPace]

Damn, you went first use nuclear with the race card on a hair trigger there.

I just called it correctly, you thought I was some white dude that likes skinny women.

Otherwise, why would you bring up the stupid comment about "men would like women with wide birthing hips" or however you put it? Ethnic Black-Americans and plenty of Latinos have long been into more "full figured" women. I was raised on that image, in an environment and culture valuing that, from the cradle.

I actually thought I was talking to a human being but, if simply being a human being is a big issue for you then that's your problem not mine.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Sounds like some dumb American stuff. I'm not co-signing your American or British nonsense, or wherever it is you come from in the Western World.

Here is the problem, for all the increasingly dense minded people in America, when you "wage a war" on say black men, Trump, Muslims, Christians, Putin, American cops or as the low IQ people of America seem to claim "a war on women," you don't constantly compliment them and constantly celebrate them in the media and nearly all spheres of society.

Example. One "race" but two sexes. Who is being complimented, celebrated, and the other ridiculed as undeserving of love? Certainly not the black men being celebrated.

ABC Report Why Successfull Black Women Find It So Hard To get Married

(This is the only country on earth, by the way, that I know of that runs news stories like this one in the video above pertaining to black men. Plenty of poor, uneducated black men in Brazil, Colombia, South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana etc. And not that these black women in the video being celebrated are heart surgeons or physicists, they're low rung white collar workers making less $$ than some male electricians.)




All any American woman has to do to be celebrated and constantly reminded she is "beautiful" and "strong" and "smart" in nearly all spheres of American society, the media, government, schools, damn near everything, is wipe her own butt and be able to lift a fork to her pie hole.

Celebrated particularly under this "oppressive" American patriarchy.

As I pointed out earlier in this thread, the particular issue in the article in post #1, would be a lot less likely to occur in Brazil or France. So what does that tell you Americans and Brits? Or do we have to get children to write it out in crayons for you?

It's at least partly cultural. Kind of like being light brown I can go to a black West African country and likely be treated with extra favoritism. Whereas my lighter hue would not extend as much social (or romantic) privilege to me in Brazil. And post-1980s USA it almost works against me. In other words a cultural disadvantage. What do ethnic Black-Americans say about light skinned dudes? "They went out of style in the 1980s." :lol:

 

[Henrin]

I just called it correctly, you thought I was some white dude that likes skinny women.

Otherwise, why would you bring up the stupid comment about "men would like women with wide birthing hips" or however you put it? Ethnic Black-Americans and plenty of Latinos have long been into more "full figured" women. I was raised on that image, in an environment and culture valuing that, from the cradle.



I have no idea what you are talking about. Sounds like some dumb American stuff. I'm not co-signing your American or British nonsense, or wherever it is you come from in the Western World.

Here is the problem, for all the increasingly dense minded people in America, when you "wage a war" on say black men, Trump, Muslims, Christians, Putin, American cops or as the low IQ people of America seem to claim "a war on women," you don't constantly compliment them and constantly celebrate them in the media and nearly all spheres of society.

Example. One "race" but two sexes. Who is being complimented, celebrated, and the other ridiculed as undeserving of love? Certainly not the black men being celebrated.



(This is the only country on earth, by the way, that I know of that runs news stories like this one in the video above pertaining to black men. Plenty of poor, uneducated black men in Brazil, Colombia, South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana etc. And not that these black women in the video being celebrated are heart surgeons or physicists, they're low rung white collar workers making less $$ than some male electricians.)




All any American woman has to do to be celebrated and constantly reminded she is "beautiful" and "strong" and "smart" in nearly all spheres of American society, the media, government, schools, damn near everything, is wipe her own butt and be able to lift a fork to her pie hole.

Celebrated particularly under this "oppressive" American patriarchy.

As I pointed out earlier in this thread, the particular issue in the article in post #1, would be a lot less likely to occur in Brazil or France. So what does that tell you Americans and Brits? Or do we have to get children to write it out in crayons for you?

It's at least partly cultural. Kind of like being light brown I can go to a black West African country and likely be treated with extra favoritism. Whereas my lighter hue would not extend as much social (or romantic) privilege to me in Brazil. And post-1980s USA it almost works against me. In other words a cultural disadvantage. What do ethnic Black-Americans say about light skinned dudes? "They went out of style in the 1980s." :lol:

Yup. Which is something a lot men are pissed off about. More and more men of all races and ages are getting sick and tired of being treated like ****, while women can't do **** wrong no matter what they do. What makes it worse is that we get to deal with that ****, while these ****ing feminists run around and tell everyone how ****ing hard it is to be a woman because they have to pay for their own ****ing birth control or because of this completely idiotic idea that the US is a patriarchal society.

Oh and that dumb crap about successful women is really annoying. They wait until their thirties to get married and still want a guy that earns more than them even if they earn like 200 grand a year. Oh, I can't find a good man! Yeah, because you waited until the market was thinned out and you want something that isn't there in great numbers. They're at fault for their own situation, no one else.

 

[FastPace]

If women want to be so aggressive then we should probably drop the idea that men can't treat them as equals. I think allowing men to treat them as equals in a fight would calm the issue down a lot between the sexes. As for the issue between women, well, I will leave that up to feminists since they won't like my idea at all there.

Women would commit suicide at a rate higher than men if they ever started getting treated with routine contempt and lack of empathy as millions of men do.

I'm fiscally liberal. However, my problem with many (not all) male socialists is they are worried Trump is not making them great, that Big Government has not gotten into their heart and soul and pulled out of them the better them. So, they don't understand these speeches below.

Best motivational speech EVER! *Never give up!!!* Eric Thomas

(Les Brown is speaking in that video too.)



Professor Jordan Peterson (psychologist) and comedian/MMA practitioner Joe Rogan on male feminist:

 

[William Rea]

I just called it correctly, you thought I was some white dude that likes skinny women...

I thought nothing of the sort, if you do not think I am sincere and you cannot detach yourself for the sake of discussion then you can **** off.

 

[_Sal]

If women want to be so aggressive then we should probably drop the idea that men can't treat them as equals. I think allowing men to treat them as equals in a fight would calm the issue down a lot between the sexes. As for the issue between women, well, I will leave that up to feminists since they won't like my idea at all there.

Women would commit suicide at a rate higher than men if they ever started getting treated with routine contempt and lack of empathy as millions of men do.

FastPace to clarify...are you agreeing with Henrin that men should be physically aggressive with women?

 

[Josie]

So like I said, teaching girls to be tough actually increases the amount of violence they commit. How is that at all surprising? If you raise someone around images of people like them doing violent things while telling them it is ok to be more aggressive (which is what people do with girls these days) then they will be more open to the behavior themselves. That's pretty basic human psychology. If you want women to be back to the way they were in terms of violence then you have to take a step back from this whole female empowerment thing and realize that teaching violence to men or women will only increase violence. How that is not obvious is beyond me.

There's a difference between raising a girl to be tough or strong and raising a girl to be violent.

 

[Henrin]

FastPace to clarify...are you agreeing with Henrin that men should be physically aggressive with women?

Do you agree that social and legal standards stop a man from fully defending himself against women? Do you agree that men allowing women to get away with aggression towards them encourages the behavior? The fact is men being pretty much crippled by standards set by others in physical dispute puts them at a considerable disadvantage which can be quite bad in situations where the man is very small or the woman is highly trained. The fact of the matter is anyone man or woman shouldn't be assaulting others and they shouldn't be tipsy toed around when they do.

 

[Henrin]

There's a difference between raising a girl to be tough or strong and raising a girl to be violent.

I think you will find that many times the one encourages the other.

 

[_Sal]

Do you agree that social social and legal standards stop a man from fully defending himself against women? Do you agree that men allowing women to get away with aggression towards them encourages the behavior? The fact is men being pretty much crippled by standards set by others in physical dispute puts them at a considerable disadvantage which can be quite bad in situations where the man is very small or the woman is highly trained. The fact of the matter is anyone man or woman shouldn't be assaulting others and they shouldn't be tipsy toed around when they do.

One of the few men with the exception of a few others on here (one was banned) displaying a tendency toward feeling victimized and abused by women is you.

your own words in this thread advocate violence toward women...you can't get away from your post

They would know going in that the guy would hit them as hard as they wanted and as often as they felt like. They wouldn't feel like doing things like going up to some guy and start yelling at him because they're pissed that day for whatever reason, but instead realize that they won't get away with it.

 

[Henrin]

Women would commit suicide at a rate higher than men if they ever started getting treated with routine contempt and lack of empathy as millions of men do.

No even counting their depression rate would increase.

I'm fiscally liberal. However, my problem with many (not all) male socialists is they are worried Trump is not making them great, that Big Government has not gotten into their heart and soul and pulled out of them the better them. So, they don't understand these speeches below.

Most people don't understand that speech.

Professor Jordan Peterson (psychologist) and comedian/MMA practitioner Joe Rogan on male feminist:

The professor nailed male feminists in that video. Male feminists have always been frauds and doing it for some other purpose than the one they are stating. For example, during the sexual revolution it was to get looser women and during the abortion fight it was to get out of being a father. In truth during the sexual revolution they were horrible cheaters, treated their women terribly, and didn't stick around when a kid was born.

As for the gender thing, well yeah, it's nonsense. It exists for no other purpose than to enable a condition instead of being honest with transgenders and other people with gender related issues about the facts.

 

[Henrin]

One of the few men with the exception of a few others on here (one was banned) displaying a tendency toward feeling victimized and abused by women is you.

your own words in this thread advocate violence toward women...you can't get away from your post

They would know going in that the guy would hit them as hard as they wanted and as often as they felt like. They wouldn't feel like doing things like going up to some guy and start yelling at him because they're pissed that day for whatever reason, but instead realize that they won't get away with it.

And some women do get up in random guys faces about **** because they think nothing will happen to them because of it. :shrug:

 

[KevinKohler]

One of the few men with the exception of a few others on here (one was banned) displaying a tendency toward feeling victimized and abused by women is you.

your own words in this thread advocate violence toward women...you can't get away from your post

They would know going in that the guy would hit them as hard as they wanted and as often as they felt like. They wouldn't feel like doing things like going up to some guy and start yelling at him because they're pissed that day for whatever reason, but instead realize that they won't get away with it.

I'm not going to agree with his stance on hitting girls, but...


What about his other point? Woman assaults a man, doesn't even spend the night in jail. Man assaults a woman, and the dude could be charged with a hate crime, and do hard time.

That's not a myth. Or how about with rape? Male teacher sleeps with a student, gets caught, may as well commit suicide, he's a demon, a monster. Woman teacher sleeps with a student, yeah, she has legal issues, but publicly? Sort of...no harm, no foul.

An under age boy goes into a bar, and sleeps with an older woman, nothing happens. Doesn't even make the news. Under age girl goes into a bar, and sleeps with an older man, why, that man is a RAPIST!

And as for hitting girls....what if it's a boxer, or an MMA fighter? I mean, don't women not want their sex to be their defining attribute? As a woman, do you want to be known as that, first and foremost? As a woman. Like, look at her, a woman. Or, do you want sex to be secondary. So, look, a boxer. Look, a cop. Look, a soldier. Look, a mixed martial arts fighter.

So, am I then, not hitting a woman, but instead, hitting a boxer? Hitting a cop. Hitting a soldier, a fighter.


Hitting.....a bullie?

 

[_Sal]

And some women do get up in random guys faces about **** because they think nothing will happen to them because of it. :shrug:

and some men beat the living crap out of women because they "know" nothing will happen to them because of it :shrug:

doesn't mean a single thing about the male species in general except that someone of them have "anger/power issues"

 

[_Sal]

I'm not going to agree with his stance on hitting girls, but...

well that's disingenuous given what follows

What about his other point? Woman assaults a man, doesn't even spend the night in jail. Man assaults a woman, and the dude could be charged with a hate crime, and do hard time.

what about his other point?

well his other point should be looked at and debated as another point shouldn't it?

not lumped together with hitting some woman because she yelled in his face...

That's not a myth.

of course it isn't a myth but it does not justify hauling off and smacking someone

it is being used as an excuse to do so...a reason ... let's put women back in their place, let's create a little fear...get them back down "where they ussta be massa"

Or how about with rape? Male teacher sleeps with a student, gets caught, may as well commit suicide, he's a demon, a monster. Woman teacher sleeps with a student, yeah, she has legal issues, but publicly? Sort of...no harm, no foul.

An under age boy goes into a bar, and sleeps with an older woman, nothing happens. Doesn't even make the news. Under age girl goes into a bar, and sleeps with an older man, why, that man is a RAPIST!

you don't like it then you need to go through the proper channels to change the law just like women did to get the vote...misogyny isn't the correct path for change

And as for hitting girls....what if it's a boxer, or an MMA fighter? I mean, don't women not want their sex to be their defining attribute? As a woman, do you want to be known as that, first and foremost? As a woman. Like, look at her, a woman. Or, do you want sex to be secondary. So, look, a boxer. Look, a cop. Look, a soldier. Look, a mixed martial arts fighter.

seriously, from your usual posts on here...that is so far below you it doesn't warrant a response

So, am I then, not hitting a woman, but instead, hitting a boxer? Hitting a cop. Hitting a soldier, a fighter.


Hitting.....a bullie?

maybe think on that a bit

 

[Henrin]

and some men beat the living crap out of women because they "know" nothing will happen to them because of it :shrug:

Ummm...men get harsher sentences for assault and every other crime on the books. If any man thinks he will get nothing for hitting a woman than he should probably check the laws. Heck, if a man hits a woman then his sentence will be even harsher than if he hits a man.

doesn't mean a single thing about the male species in general except that someone of them have "anger/power issues"

And some women don't? What you might have missed is that women's anger issues are becoming more and more of a problem for society, and that women's power issues are causing serious problems in relationships between men and women.