Why I'm Stoked on DeBlasio's campaign

[Craig234]

It's good to see the positive comments about JFK and his son - JFK's presidency is a hobby.

He deserves the credit he gets, but it's complicated -many misunderstand him, partly because he created an image that wasn't entirely accurate as the politics demanded at the time, making him something of a chameleon with broad appeal.

So nearly everyone can see things in him to like, more than politicians today. Of course that can't hold up to scrutiny - the contradictions get settled one way or the other - but he had qualities that become clearer as well.

On policy, one example you rarely hear about is how he did more than any other president by far to end organized crime - and the fact people might react with 'so what, that's a small issue odd to bring up' is credit to what he did. During his presidency, at the start, just one mob boss - Carlos Marcello of Louisiana and most of Texas - had as much revenue as the largest company in the US (General Electric at the time).

It's good to see the comments about his son you rarely hear about - someone good to learn about. Caroline Kennedy is interesting as well; she was Obama's ambassador to Japan.

 

[Chomsky]

Not up to me, since we have closed primaries. I would have voted for Sanders, had he won the nomination last time. This time I am not so sure. We'll have to see how it plays out. Biden? No, it would have to be 3rd again.

What about Harris?

I like her, but think I would prefer her as a Veep to Sanders or Biden if either man takes it.

 

[Chomsky]

I never realized how diverse the contributors were. Thanks for that. Good stuff right there. But that picture of him saluting his Dad is still heartbreaking. I am still angry over his loss. Both of them.

And as a former pilot myself, (not trying to start any conspiracy theories here) I don't believe the story we were told about JFK Jr. I just don't buy it.

This IMO, is why you start on IFR immediately after VFR - and complete it!

Kennedy was a low hour pilot with very little solo time, not IFR certified, and essentially flying into IMC. At night. Over water. It was an accident waiting to happen.

If you look at his logbook, you'll see he had very little solo time in relation to his (low) hours, with his hours being primarily with an instructor or in a simulator. There was a complete & absolute nearly two-decade gap between his first solo in '82, and his resumption of flying to get his PPL in '98 (a year before the accident in '99). He had just complete his Complex rating (in the doomed plane), the month before the fatal night.

I am not a licensed pilot, despite my flirtations with it earlier in life. But I've encouraged my kids to start flying when they were in H.S., and I've supported them to that end. However, I had one rule:

"I'll support you in this endeavor, but there's no stopping at PPL; You've got to intend to finish IFR, or not start at all."

Quite honestly, I have no idea why one would feel safe in the air without IFR capability.

(I also insisted on a basic upset-recovery/aerobatics course)

 

[Winchester]

Sanders


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Trump hopes that too.

 

[RAMOSS]

I am more anarchist than socialist


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The problem with anarchy is that is inevitably lets warlords rise.

 

[Craig234]

Trump hopes that too.

Like Hillary hoped for trump. Be careful what you wish for, Sanders would wipe trump out and be great for our country.

 

[Craig234]

The problem with anarchy is that is inevitably lets warlords rise.

Yes, it's amazing what 'common knowledge it is' that Communism is 'just a utopian idea that doesn't work in the real world', but some don't understand anarchy is much more that. Of course, we're proving that too much pure capitalism fits it as well.

 

[RAMOSS]

Yes, it's amazing what 'common knowledge it is' that Communism is 'just a utopian idea that doesn't work in the real world', but some don't understand anarchy is much more that. Of course, we're proving that too much pure capitalism fits it as well.

That is true, particularly the 'free market' causes monopolies and oligarchies to arise.

 

[Winston]

The problem with anarchy is that is inevitably lets warlords rise.

Anarchy isn't the absence of laws, it's rather the absence of hierarchy.

 

[Craig234]

Anarchy isn't the absence of laws, it's rather the absence of hierarchy.

Who enforces those laws when a group of people decide to unite and break them and are the most powerful organized force? It's a bit like the Libertarian fantasy about how 'the courts' will solve every dispute in their world, oblivious to the way power will prevent that.

 

[RAMOSS]

Anarchy isn't the absence of laws, it's rather the absence of hierarchy.

And,that will lead to people taking advantage of that, and it collapses under it's own weight.

 

[Winston]

Who enforces those laws when a group of people decide to unite and break them and are the most powerful organized force? It's a bit like the Libertarian fantasy about how 'the courts' will solve every dispute in their world, oblivious to the way power will prevent that.

It's a good question and one a real anarchist would probably have a sufficient answer for. In history the most successful anarchist collectives were overtaken by outside forces stronger than them. But, that's no different than any other power struggle, regardless of economic and political system.

But, what exactly do you mean? Like who would control and police gangs? The police would. The difference being that each police officer would have a vote in setting policy at the department and within the government. Basically, anarchy would require a highly educated, engaged, and participatory democracy, which would ultimately be the most difficult obstacle, in my view.

 

[Winston]

And,that will lead to people taking advantage of that, and it collapses under it's own weight.

Could you lay out how a more equal, democratized society is more susceptible to exploitation? What advantage is there to be taken? It seems like right now the powerful and privileged take advantage of the uneducated and disempowered.

 

[RAMOSS]

Could you lay out how a more equal, democratized society is more susceptible to exploitation? What advantage is there to be taken? It seems like right now the powerful and privileged take advantage of the uneducated and disempowered.

That is quite right... it goes back with unrestricted capitalism, and the concept that companies are beholden to shareholders, not society in general. The flaw ithat causes both anarchy, communism and free market society is 'greed'

 

[Craig234]

That is quite right... it goes back with unrestricted capitalism, and the concept that companies are beholden to shareholders, not society in general. The flaw ithat causes both anarchy, communism and free market society is 'greed'

Greed is not a "flaw", it is a desire to manage. You need a system that expected greed and keeps it in check, not that just says 'we don't like too much greed'. It needs to be channeled into productive use, and kept from causing too much harm. When people say greed is the problem, they're saying the system is flawed because it doesn't handle greed. And our system is not handling greed well anymore.

Not as well as it did when FDR said that he was hated by the "old enemies of peace--business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering", and that he welcomed their hatred, and he put policies in place to handle greed.

He proposed even more, which our country has mistakenly not adopted - including in that same speech he welcomed their hatred, he suggested a second, economic bill of rights. How much better our country would be had we passed it.

Democracy is a nice idea, but it's not well equipped for defense against the interests who have an interest in opposing it, especially in this mass media, money-dominated era which has half the country believing oil company liars over scientists that 'climate change is a hoax!'

 

[Craig234]

Could you lay out how a more equal, democratized society is more susceptible to exploitation? What advantage is there to be taken? It seems like right now the powerful and privileged take advantage of the uneducated and disempowered.

There are different types of equality. One type is that we have three Americans with as much wealth as half the country. Another type is if everyone was exactly equal in wealth and power, then a group of 100 who organize have a lot more power than any one person. That latter issue is more the issue for 'anarchy'. Some people will always look for ways to get more at the expense of others. We need to design a system that keeps that in check. We haven't - but we have done is to a point.

 

[Lovebug]

What about Harris?

I like her, but think I would prefer her as a Veep to Sanders or Biden if either man takes it.

Ok, so I am thinking that we have a firebrand in the WH. Why add another? I am looking for someone who is cool, collected, calm.
Most of the candidates, at least at the moment, come across as vindictive and seem to forget that this country consists of more than ethe extreme left.
Like I said, we already have a polarizing potus.

 

[RAMOSS]

Greed is not a "flaw", it is a desire to manage. You need a system that expected greed and keeps it in check, not that just says 'we don't like too much greed'. It needs to be channeled into productive use, and kept from causing too much harm. When people say greed is the problem, they're saying the system is flawed because it doesn't handle greed. And our system is not handling greed well anymore.

Not as well as it did when FDR said that he was hated by the "old enemies of peace--business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering", and that he welcomed their hatred, and he put policies in place to handle greed.

He proposed even more, which our country has mistakenly not adopted - including in that same speech he welcomed their hatred, he suggested a second, economic bill of rights. How much better our country would be had we passed it.

Democracy is a nice idea, but it's not well equipped for defense against the interests who have an interest in opposing it, especially in this mass media, money-dominated era which has half the country believing oil company liars over scientists that 'climate change is a hoax!'

No, it's a flaw. It is mismanaged ambition.

 

[ludin]

I think the problem with DeBlasio is that he polls into negative numbers.

As such, it doesn't look like he would drain anything from anything.

Bill de Blasio's net favorable rating is negative 37 points

balsio has turned NYC into an anti-freedom fire dump of a city.
he is a horrible mayor. he is nothing more than an extreme leftist.

 

[ocean515]

balsio has turned NYC into an anti-freedom fire dump of a city.
he is a horrible mayor. he is nothing more than an extreme leftist.

Certainly seems that way. Says just about everything anyone needs to know about NYC voters....

 

[ludin]

That is quite right... it goes back with unrestricted capitalism, and the concept that companies are beholden to shareholders, not society in general. The flaw ithat causes both anarchy, communism and free market society is 'greed'

greed can be controled by laws and punishing illegal unethical behavior.

you cannot punish people that abuse communistic behavior because they are the ones running it.

 

[RAMOSS]

greed can be controled by laws and punishing illegal unethical behavior.

you cannot punish people that abuse communistic behavior because they are the ones running it.

And, if you do that, it's not free market economy, or unrestricted capitalism. And right now, because of lobbiests, and the 'dark money' for super pacs, it's the corporations that run the government through monetary obligations.

 

[ludin]

And, if you do that, it's not free market economy, or unrestricted capitalism. And right now, because of lobbiests, and the 'dark money' for super pacs, it's the corporations that run the government through monetary obligations.

since no one believes in that your argument is moot.

 

[Craig234]

No, it's a flaw. It is mismanaged ambition.

I don't agree. How do you suggest the state make people not greedy?

 

[Renae]

My choices ranked are

Sanders
Gabbard
Warren
Yang


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So end liberty and freedom in exchange for government serfdom... brilliant platform, have fun with that.