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Why aren't 2020 Democrat candidates recusing themselves from the Senate trial?

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Finally Someone Says It! Marsha Blackburn: Senators Running for President Must Recuse From Impeachment Trial

Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, took a moment to remind voters and the mainstream media both of this staggering conflict of interest in a statement issued Wednesday – the same day the articles of impeachment were transmitted to the Senate.

From her statement:
“Tomorrow, one hundred United States Senators will be sworn in to serve in the impeachment trial of President Donald Trump. Four of those Senators must recuse themselves for their unparalleled political interest in seeing this President removed from office. These four Democrats, Senators Bennet, Klobuchar, Sanders, and Warren, cannot sit in judgment of the very President they seek to replace. To participate in this trial would be a failure of the oath they took to be an ‘impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws’. Their presidential ambitions prohibit their ability to view this trial through an objective lens.”
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If Trump is being impeached with the ultimate goal of removing him from office and the 2020 election race, why are 2020 Democrats permitted to hold his destiny in their hands, when they can realistically benefit from his removal?

The motivation is the same, is it not? If Trump wanted Ukraine to publicly investigate his 2020 rival for the express purpose of getting him out of the 2020 race, to his benefit, then how is this different?

Each 2020 Dem candidate who sits in judgement simply cannot deny that IF they vote guilty and Trump is removed, they will all but guarantee that their party will win the 2020 election, and be in power, if not further, they as and individual just might become the most powerful person on earth.

They have the power to remove the biggest obstacle to Democrats winning in 2020.

They must recuse, right?. The conflict of interest is impeachable!
 
Acadia said:
If Trump is being impeached with the ultimate goal of removing him from office and the 2020 election race, why are 2020 Democrats permitted to hold his destiny in their hands, when they can realistically benefit from his removal?

The motivation is the same, is it not? If Trump wanted Ukraine to publicly investigate his 2020 rival for the express purpose of getting him out of the 2020 race, to his benefit, then how is this different?

Each 2020 Dem candidate who sits in judgement simply cannot deny that IF they vote guilty and Trump is removed, they will all but guarantee that their party will win the 2020 election, and be in power, if not further, they as and individual just might become the most powerful person on earth.

They have the power to remove the biggest obstacle to Democrats winning in 2020.

They must recuse, right?. The conflict of interest is impeachable!
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:lamo

That has to be the dumbest bit of gaslighting I've heard. McConnell said the GOP would fully coordinate with Trump. Graham has no intention of being impartial. But it's the Democrats who should recuse. How convenient.

If there was any logic to your post and one followed it, the conclusion would be that the senate must recuse itself from any impeachment trial because they all have possible bias. That would be quite a stupid result, though you would no doubt like that as well.




Pretending to care about fairness and just. Just... L-O-****ing-L
 
Acadia said:
If Trump is being impeached with the ultimate goal of removing him from office and the 2020 election race, why are 2020 Democrats permitted to hold his destiny in their hands, when they can realistically benefit from his removal?

The motivation is the same, is it not? If Trump wanted Ukraine to publicly investigate his 2020 rival for the express purpose of getting him out of the 2020 race, to his benefit, then how is this different?

Each 2020 Dem candidate who sits in judgement simply cannot deny that IF they vote guilty and Trump is removed, they will all but guarantee that their party will win the 2020 election, and be in power, if not further, they as and individual just might become the most powerful person on earth.

They have the power to remove the biggest obstacle to Democrats winning in 2020.

They must recuse, right?. The conflict of interest is impeachable!
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The idea of impartiality of congress critters is an oxymoron. That is why the use of impeachment as just left wing smear tool in the toolbox is such a terrible idea. It is now just power politics using impeachment.
 
Mr Person said:
:lamo

That has to be the dumbest bit of gaslighting I've heard. McConnell said the GOP would fully coordinate with Trump. Graham has no intention of being impartial. But it's the Democrats who should recuse. How convenient.

If there was any logic to your post and one followed it, the conclusion would be that the senate must recuse itself from any impeachment trial because they all have possible bias. That would be quite a stupid result, though you would no doubt like that as well.




Pretending to care about fairness and just. Just... L-O-****ing-L
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Are you pretending not to see the obvious conflict of interest here? If anyone has to recuse, those would be the first two to go.
 
Acadia said:
If Trump is being impeached with the ultimate goal of removing him from office and the 2020 election race, why are 2020 Democrats permitted to hold his destiny in their hands, when they can realistically benefit from his removal?

The motivation is the same, is it not? If Trump wanted Ukraine to publicly investigate his 2020 rival for the express purpose of getting him out of the 2020 race, to his benefit, then how is this different?

Each 2020 Dem candidate who sits in judgement simply cannot deny that IF they vote guilty and Trump is removed, they will all but guarantee that their party will win the 2020 election, and be in power, if not further, they as and individual just might become the most powerful person on earth.

They have the power to remove the biggest obstacle to Democrats winning in 2020.

They must recuse, right?. The conflict of interest is impeachable!
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Mr. Person said it well..."Dumbest" thing posted today. And that's saying a lot.

The fact that an impeachment trial in the Senate is, by nature, a partisan process does NOT mean that "impartial justice" cannot be rendered by every member of the Senate. The oath they take is NOT to pretend to be non-partisan, but to look at the FACTS and promise to render "IMPARTIAL JUSTICE". They don't have to be non-partisan to commit to following the FACTS where the facts lead them. That's the same as any other jury trial in our system of government.

If anyone should recuse it would be those Senators who have already declared their intent to not render impartial justice to the facts of the trial. That would be, at a minimum, McConnell and Graham, for starters.

But, of course, you've been gaslighted so much that you don't even recognize when you're doing it yourself.

Typical.
 
Acadia said:
If Trump is being impeached with the ultimate goal of removing him from office and the 2020 election race, why are 2020 Democrats permitted to hold his destiny in their hands, when they can realistically benefit from his removal?

The motivation is the same, is it not? If Trump wanted Ukraine to publicly investigate his 2020 rival for the express purpose of getting him out of the 2020 race, to his benefit, then how is this different?

Each 2020 Dem candidate who sits in judgement simply cannot deny that IF they vote guilty and Trump is removed, they will all but guarantee that their party will win the 2020 election, and be in power, if not further, they as and individual just might become the most powerful person on earth.

They have the power to remove the biggest obstacle to Democrats winning in 2020.

They must recuse, right?. The conflict of interest is impeachable!
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You must not have heard, but they both signed a piece of paper saying the would be impartial. So there is really no way of knowing how they will vote
 
There are no FACTS. There is a lot of OPINION which would be tossed out of any trial in America. Yet, we're supposed to remove Trump based on it. Unreal.
 
Mr Person said:
:lamo

That has to be the dumbest bit of gaslighting I've heard. McConnell said the GOP would fully coordinate with Trump. Graham has no intention of being impartial. But it's the Democrats who should recuse. How convenient.

If there was any logic to your post and one followed it, the conclusion would be that the senate must recuse itself from any impeachment trial because they all have possible bias. That would be quite a stupid result, though you would no doubt like that as well.




Pretending to care about fairness and just. Just... L-O-****ing-L
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You're not following. Carry on.
 
Fletch said:
You must not have heard, but they both signed a piece of paper saying the would be impartial. So there is really no way of knowing how they will vote
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Yes, that magical piece of paper that takes away all their partisan ambition. Miraculous, that.
 
Because they will look at the evidence in impartial manner and vote to impeach the SOB based on the clear facts and testimony that has already been presented, unless some new facts come to light that would exonerate him.
 
ultmd said:
Mr. Person said it well..."Dumbest" thing posted today. And that's saying a lot.

The fact that an impeachment trial in the Senate is, by nature, a partisan process does NOT mean that "impartial justice" cannot be rendered by every member of the Senate. The oath they take is NOT to pretend to be non-partisan, but to look at the FACTS and promise to render "IMPARTIAL JUSTICE". They don't have to be non-partisan to commit to following the FACTS where the facts lead them. That's the same as any other jury trial in our system of government.

If anyone should recuse it would be those Senators who have already declared their intent to not render impartial justice to the facts of the trial. That would be, at a minimum, McConnell and Graham, for starters.

But, of course, you've been gaslighted so much that you don't even recognize when you're doing it yourself.

Typical.
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Are you in any way unsure as to how Sanders or Warren will ultimately vote? Im not.
 
Every person that speaks against individual one is a liar.

To be gentle, today’s connies are cafeteria constitutionalists.
 
ultmd said:
Mr. Person said it well..."Dumbest" thing posted today. And that's saying a lot.

The fact that an impeachment trial in the Senate is, by nature, a partisan process does NOT mean that "impartial justice" cannot be rendered by every member of the Senate. The oath they take is NOT to pretend to be non-partisan, but to look at the FACTS and promise to render "IMPARTIAL JUSTICE". They don't have to be non-partisan to commit to following the FACTS where the facts lead them. That's the same as any other jury trial in our system of government.

If anyone should recuse it would be those Senators who have already declared their intent to not render impartial justice to the facts of the trial. That would be, at a minimum, McConnell and Graham, for starters.

But, of course, you've been gaslighted so much that you don't even recognize when you're doing it yourself.

Typical.
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More twists and turns than riding a mule on a Grand Canyon switchback.
Gaslighting yourself...how is that even possible?:2funny:
 
Linc said:
Every person that speaks against individual one is a liar.

To be gentle, today’s connies are cafeteria constitutionalists.
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Can't wait until Trump puts another one of those on the SC!!
 
Acadia said:
If Trump is being impeached with the ultimate goal of removing him from office and the 2020 election race, why are 2020 Democrats permitted to hold his destiny in their hands, when they can realistically benefit from his removal?

The motivation is the same, is it not? If Trump wanted Ukraine to publicly investigate his 2020 rival for the express purpose of getting him out of the 2020 race, to his benefit, then how is this different?

Each 2020 Dem candidate who sits in judgement simply cannot deny that IF they vote guilty and Trump is removed, they will all but guarantee that their party will win the 2020 election, and be in power, if not further, they as and individual just might become the most powerful person on earth.

They have the power to remove the biggest obstacle to Democrats winning in 2020.

They must recuse, right?. The conflict of interest is impeachable!
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All 100 senators will take the oath of impartiality, but I'd say at least 96 are lying their their butt hole. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to Collins, Maine, Murkowski, Alaska, Jones, Alabama and Manchin, West Virginia. The rest are down right liars if they take that oath. Fact is 95% of all of Americans who either identify themselves as Republicans and or Democrats are most likely partial and biased as Hades.

While I think Senator Blackburn has a valid point, fact is you're not going to get senators who have that R and D behind their name to leave their partisanship, biases and partiality at the door, oath or no oath. Fact is the democrats want Trump gone and they will vote guilty whether or not the evidence warrants removal or not. The Republicans want Trump to stay and they will vote not guilty whether or not the evidence warrants removal or not.

Case closed. Just vote and let's move on putting this ridiculous show behind us.
 
Slavister said:
Because they will look at the evidence in impartial manner and vote to impeach the SOB based on the clear facts and testimony that has already been presented, unless some new facts come to light that would exonerate him.
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All saints, those Democrats.
 
Fletch said:
Are you in any way unsure as to how Sanders or Warren will ultimately vote? Im not.
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But...but...but...they swore and oath to be impartial. Even the Democrats who wanted to impeach Trump before Ukraine.
And even the ones screaming "Peach Fohty Fahv" before he was sworn into office.

Yup, their intentions are pure as the driven snow.
 
Linc said:
Breaking the law is okay if you’re trump.
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Amazing that the articles cite no laws that were broken. You'd think that would be the front and center. Vague generalities do not meet the bar for impeachment.
 
Acadia said:
Can't wait until Trump puts another one of those on the SC!!
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I won’t have to live as long with this complete degradation of our Nation by GOPutins as folks younger than I.
 
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