When Will Trump Standup Against Bigotry and Racism?

[mrdeltoid]

:roll:

Simple question. When will Trump standup and speak out against racism and bigotry of all kinds?

Wow! The democrat party’s 2020 platform: Donald Trump is racist. What a surprise!:roll:

 

[Risky Thicket]

Five hundred years from now, uncontacted primitive tribes in South America might be seen using faded Polaroid copies of that Farrakhan photo op as a form of money. Beyond that, a trillion of them won't get you a partially eaten booger sandwich in a subway station toilet in Flatbush.

I don't know if you are suggesting that Born Free eat a booger sandwich in a subway station toilet in Flatbush but it isn't a bad idea. :2razz:

 

[Born Free]

Instead of all your BS. You answer the question you have avoided while dredging up all this Obama deflection:

To be clear, you have no issue with our POTUS fawning over the dictator of North Korea and further denouncing Kim Jung Un's responsibility for the torture and murder of an American student all on his word?

I'm not participating if you can't stay focused.

I got it, you can't answer a simple question, you have no clue about anything, especially foreign affairs. And you say I can't stay focused, hell you got that wrong, you can't even answer a simple question. You have to pull out the liberal handbook to see how to dodge a question. Typical liberals, duck and run.

You're a waste of my time.

 

[OpportunityCost]

Again -

Where's the call for laws against all that?

Why are your goalposts on wheels?

 

[Born Free]

Obama owns you. He's all over your brain all day, every day. It's actually funny watching you meltdown over someone who has been out of office for over almost 2 1/2 years. The funny thing is, even after this fact has been pointed out to you numerous times, not only do you not learn your lesson and stop showing the entire forum your self destructive obsession, you double, triple, quadruple down and continue to show just how serious this abnormal obsession is. Basically you are a mental slave to Obama. Think about this fact for a minute. :laughat:

How soon you forget you libs bitched and bitched and bitched about Bush for 8 yrs.

All your BS does not change the fact of Obama failures. And all those failures he handed off to Trump to deal with all because Obama was a complete failure and a coward. Now all you libs do is bitch about Trump eating to many hamburgers, or he was seen pissing in the shower, and Trump tweeted the Mueller investigation was a scam and a witch hunt. Notice not one of you libs want to talk policy because that brings in your failed Obama vs Trump's successes.

I know you can't stand to be reminded that Obama was nothing but failure. He was your guy and you voted for him twice, the least you could do is stand up and support Obama but doing so means you support failure.

BTW Crooked Hillary Lost Trump won, You Lost Kavanah Won, all your efforts of posting up over two yrs of false evidence of collusion failed. Once again You Lost Trump Won.

 

[uptower]

If you want to call it like you see it. Then say that you believe he promotes racism and start from there. Don't tout it like it's an immutable fact of reality.

Well I've already done that, using one of the best examples, and it is an opinion widely shared. Immutable? Obvious more like. I would say it's hardly even debatable.

 

[Logician Man]

How soon you forget you libs bitched and bitched and bitched about Bush for 8 yrs.

All your BS does not change the fact of Obama failures. And all those failures he handed off to Trump to deal with all because Obama was a complete failure and a coward. Now all you libs do is bitch about Trump eating to many hamburgers, or he was seen pissing in the shower, and Trump tweeted the Mueller investigation was a scam and a witch hunt. Notice not one of you libs want to talk policy because that brings in your failed Obama vs Trump's successes.

I know you can't stand to be reminded that Obama was nothing but failure. He was your guy and you voted for him twice, the least you could do is stand up and support Obama but doing so means you support failure.

BTW Crooked Hillary Lost Trump won, You Lost Kavanah Won, all your efforts of posting up over two yrs of false evidence of collusion failed. Once again You Lost Trump Won.

Oh...you just reminded me of how much Hillary owns you too. Thanks for the laugh!!! :lamo:lamo:lamo :laughat: ( Born 'free'<----- > NOW OWNED by an ex-black President and a retired Liberal Democratic Female Politician ) ..So much for your 'freedom .You've allowed that to go straight down the crapper, bu your own accorrd, no less. :lol: Born Free = Weak Minded Mentally Enslaved Loser...

 

[jet57]

Why are your goalposts on wheels?

Reading id fundamental. Learn to, and then go back and read my post.

:2wave:

 

[Incredulous]

I guess you could have asked Obama the same question. But you know you are the party of racism and the hatred of Jews. Here you have your beloved Obama parading Farrakhan on stage laughing at Farrakhan's racism and his hatred of Jews. Obama has him on stage to show the world his support for racism and the hatred of the Jews. That picture is a perfect example showing your parties racism and hatred of Jews.

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I'll play your "what about" game.

Our current POTUS, in own words, "fell in love" with Kim Jong Un. That's a fact - not some opinion drawn off of a photo. Where's your outrage? Do you have any?

And this was your response to my question. The first thing you did was insult my intelligence about international politics. Then you proceeded to duck, dodge and weave like you were running from a crazy ex-girlfriend - which led us to where we are now.

What is a fact is you not knowing international politics. Rocket Man and all the others like Iran, Russian, Syria, etc etc all have their own leaders. Of which it's the President's job to have dialogue with these countries to try and make progress for a safer world.

Now you can say Trump loves Rocket Man, instead you say Trump should hate Rocket Man and blow NK off the planet, same for Iran. Farrakhan is not a leader of any country, he is a US Citizen who is one of the most racist Jew haters in this country. And Obama loves up to Farrakhan on stage for the world to see his support for racism and hatred of Jews.

Obama did absolutely nothing to pull in NK, not a damn thing, but instead he let NK build all the nukes and missiles they wanted. And then they started to fire their missiles over Japan, causing tension around the world. Trump gets NK to calm down, using his method and as a result NK has stopped firing missile testing that could reach the US. I see that as a positive success.

Now I'm sure you have your idea of how Trump should treat Rocket Man to benefit peace in the world. Clinton tried it by giving NK billions to stop their nuke program, however NK laughed at Clinton all the way to the bank. Yea Clinton gave NK billions and they ****ed over him and us taxpayer. Obama does not do a damn thing. Bush was heavily involved in the 6 party talks to try to make a deal with NK. And now Trump is doing his best to pull in NK anyway he can. But I know your opposed to all that.

I got it, you can't answer a simple question, you have no clue about anything, especially foreign affairs. And you say I can't stay focused, hell you got that wrong, you can't even answer a simple question. You have to pull out the liberal handbook to see how to dodge a question. Typical liberals, duck and run.

You're a waste of my time.

And yet, still, you have not answered my original question - all while continuing to tell me how ignorant I am, telling me what I think, and doing everything you can to avoid answering the question in every post. You can't utter one word of dissent about Trump and that is why this conversation has gone no where. You are blinded by your bias.

 

[LouC]

LOL, yeah, referencing dead presidents is always a solid debate technique. Cherry picking a particular few minutes from decades ago make inarguable points. :roll:

You completely missed the point of my posting.

You have joined the CCC, aka the Clueless Conservative Club.

Congratulations!

 

[Born Free]

And this was your response to my question. The first thing you did was insult my intelligence about international politics. Then you proceeded to duck, dodge and weave like you were running from a crazy ex-girlfriend - which led us to where we are now.





And yet, still, you have not answered my original question - all while continuing to tell me how ignorant I am, telling me what I think, and doing everything you can to avoid answering the question in every post. You can't utter one word of dissent about Trump and that is why this conversation has gone no where. You are blinded by your bias.

I posted this question to you in post #170 of which you never answered, I repeat:

Now what would you prefer Trump do, wipe NK off the map and start WWIII and leave hundreds of thousands dead. But just maybe a better way would be diplomacy in and effort to pull in Rocket Man showing a different path to prosperity, rather than no prosperity if they continue to build out there nuke program.

Answer the damn question. You answering a question with a question is not how it works. Answer the question

 

[Bullseye]

You completely missed the point of my posting.

You have joined the CCC, aka the Clueless Conservative Club.

Congratulations!

You have no points, just vapid blathering.

 

[Born Free]

Oh...you just reminded me of how much Hillary owns you too. Thanks for the laugh!!! :lamo:lamo:lamo :laughat: ( Born 'free'<----- > NOW OWNED by an ex-black President and a retired Liberal Democratic Female Politician ) ..So much for your 'freedom .You've allowed that to go straight down the crapper, bu your own accorrd, no less. :lol: Born Free = Weak Minded Mentally Enslaved Loser...

I see you laugh at failure, You and Hillary lost Trump won, You Lost and Kavanah Won. Now over 2 yrs of you libs posting up false evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians, again You Lost Trump won.

Seems to me your the enslaved loser. How do you like losing all the time.

As for ex-black President and a retired Liberal Democratic Female Politician. Ignorance is abound, what political position did that Democrats Female Politician hold???? And she was just as much a failure as her stupid failure of a husband.

 

[Incredulous]

I posted this question to you in post #170 of which you never answered, I repeat:

Now what would you prefer Trump do, wipe NK off the map and start WWIII and leave hundreds of thousands dead. But just maybe a better way would be diplomacy in and effort to pull in Rocket Man showing a different path to prosperity, rather than no prosperity if they continue to build out there nuke program.

Answer the damn question. You answering a question with a question is not how it works. Answer the question

Dude, seriously? You just answered a question with a question and then told me that's not how it works.

You just can't do it can ya? :lamo

Bye. :lol:

 

[Born Free]

Dude, seriously? You just answered a question with a question and then told me that's not how it works.

You just can't do it can ya? :lamo

Bye. :lol:

Prove your question was before #170, you can't, you just provide meaningless and useless lip service.

Hey DUDE You Lost and I won. You just can't win can ya?

 

[Incredulous]

Prove your question was before #170, you can't, you just provide meaningless and useless lip service.

Hey DUDE You Lost and I won. You just can't win can ya?

It's over man. Put the shovel down and climb out of your hole.

 

[Waddy]

Trump has always opposed slavery.

 

[Oborosen]

So it's not on the institution. Can't say that is really a surprise.

Alright, I'm tired of your running.

Have a nice day.

 

[Oborosen]

Running from a child's play box is prudent for the adult.

Enjoys your pale and shovel!

So you're fully admitting that you can't even contend with a child's level of intellectual discussion. You do realize that don't you?

So yes, continue to run away. I've already added you to the tally so it really doesn't matter at this point.

 

[Oborosen]

Well I've already done that, using one of the best examples, and it is an opinion widely shared. Immutable? Obvious more like. I would say it's hardly even debatable.

So you're just treating this like a joke?

I mean that's a good choice if you want to delegitimize yourself as quickly as possible and the daily beast is a fine way of affirming my belief that such is your intention.

You've proving nothing above saying "I believe he's racist and here are other people who agree with me for my proof" Even though all of the proof I've seen on this thread has been of people with no proof and just saying that he's racist. Without even using a standard of measurement for such a designation.

Do none of you on this thread have something you can cite. A video, a direct quote, something of him doing anything that you can point to and say "Look right there, he is being racist"?

I don't want a link to some hopped up list of crap that someone compiled with no evidence to show for it. I just want one instance that in your mind, proves what you believe him to be.

 

[uptower]

Do none of you on this thread have something you can cite. A video, a direct quote, something of him doing anything that you can point to and say "Look right there, he is being racist"?

I don't want a link to some hopped up list of crap that someone compiled with no evidence to show for it. I just want one instance that in your mind, proves what you believe him to be.

I first provided a link with dozens of videos and direct quotes. If some choose not to see what Trump says is racist though it is patently obvious at first sight; if his words need parsing or twisting or further explanation, it doesn't change what he said.

I also posted one of the most egregious examples which was dismissed as what, he was talking about someone else? No he was praising white nationalists. The 'good people' gaffe is the example of one instance that in my mind demonstrates Trump's racist tendencies. Sorry if you don't agree but that's convincing to me and there are more in the links - all his own words, most on tape.

I've no interest in going over the minutiae of each statement, when a quick list and one good example suffice. There's little point arguing, 'Well he could have meant this or that,' each time because it's obvious from the context each time that he meant what he said - as I said, his is not a deep and complex intellect. Instead he leaves it up to his defenders to parse his words, obfuscate, deny the obvious and in some cases, flat out lie.

And if there's any doubt ask the hate groups he has emboldened. In addition to the spike in hate crimes since he took office, they've been on record plenty of times claiming Trump is their man. Where did they get that idea?

 

[Oborosen]

I first provided a link with dozens of videos and direct quotes. If people choose not to see what Trump says is racist though it is patently obvious at first sight; if he words need parsing or twisting or further explanation, it doesn't change what he said.

I also posted one of the most egregious examples which was dismissed as what - he was talking about something else? No he was praising white nationalists. The 'good people' gaffe is the example of one instance that in my mind demonstrates Trump's racist tendencies. There are more in the links - all his own words, most on tape.

I've no interest in going over the minutiae of each one, when one good example suffices. There's little point arguing, 'Well he could have meant this or that,' because it's obvious from the context each time that he meant what he said - as I said, his is not a deep and complex intellect. Instead h leaves it up to his defenders to parse his words, obfuscate, deny the obvious and in some cases, flat out lie.

And if there's any doubt ask the hate groups he has emboldened. In addition to the spike in hate crimes since he took office, they've been on record plenty of times claiming Trump is their man. Where did they get that idea?

So you're still going to admit that it's nothing more than subjective reasoning that make what he said, actually a racist statement. Despite all of the missed attempts to explain what makes the statement, or action racist. You just say "it's racist" and walk on with your ears pugged.

If all you have for concrete evidence is his "good people on both sides" comment. Which had no racial connotation in it at all.

Just shows how desperate you and those like you are to prove something that you can readily prove to anyone, that isn't inside of your own echo chamber.

 

[uptower]

So you're still going to admit that it's nothing more than subjective reasoning that make what he said.

If all you have for concrete evidence is his "good people on both sides" comment. Which had no racial connotation in it at all.

No I contend that my opinion, which was asked for in this case, is based on objective reasoning.

An objective look at all the comments in aggregate shows a pattern of racism. The 'good people' was chosen at a very bad moment to pander to the far right; his pursuit of birtherism had racist connotations - after all how could a black guy be a 'real' American? His dismissal of all illegal immigrants from the south - and by extension Hispanics - as rapists and drug dealers was a deliberate appeal to the hard right; he even questioned a Hispanic judge's patriotism on the basis of his ethnicity (shades of birtherism there). Calling poor countries ***tholes dismisses their people and cultures; he told a white audience African American neighborhoods are 'hell'. I'm sure if we make excuses for him there's a perfectly 'reasonable' explanation for all these statements, but the most likely genuine one is that he's a racist.

The links I posted contain dozens of such examples straight from Trump's own racist mouth. Why should we dismiss the obvious in favor of some desperate semantic excuses for what he said. We all heard it, and everyone gets it. Even when isolating this incident that and finding some excuse for it, the combination of statements and contexts makes it obvious where he's coming from.

Even the poll results of this thread show two-thirds think he's a racist

 

[Dacke]

I see you laugh at failure, You and Hillary lost Trump won, You Lost and Kavanah Won. Now over 2 yrs of you libs posting up false evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians, again You Lost Trump won.

Seems to me your the enslaved loser. How do you like losing all the time.

As for ex-black President and a retired Liberal Democratic Female Politician. Ignorance is abound, what political position did that Democrats Female Politician hold???? And she was just as much a failure as her stupid failure of a husband.

Be careful. Considering how demography is changing, 2020 will, most likely, be the last time US gets a Republican president (if Trump manages to get re-elected).

 

[Dacke]

No I contend that my opinion, which was asked for in this case, is based on objective reasoning.

An objective look at all the comments in aggregate shows a pattern of racism. The 'good people' was chosen at a very bad moment to pander to the far right; his pursuit of birtherism had racist connotations - after all how could a black guy be a 'real' American?

Trump is a genius. The whole "Obama is not an American"-spectacle was the epitome of trolling and also an awesome PR-coup. Additionally, it is not Obama's Blackness (Mixedness) that had some people "questioning his Americanness" (important to note is that most of the people were just trolling sensitive r-tards), but rather is it the fact that his father is not an American.

His dismissal of all illegal immigrants from the south - and by extension Hispanics - as rapists and drug dealers was a deliberate appeal to the hard right; he even questioned a Hispanic judge's patriotism on the basis of his ethnicity (shades of birtherism there).

What do you mean "by extension", are you projecting your own, surpressed racism onto Trump or what? Trump's dismissal of illegal immigrants was based on two simle facts; (1) they are illegal and (2) with a poorly controlled border, the drug cartels and gangsters of Mexico and Central America are given free access to transport their drugs and weapons. How is this racist?

Calling poor countries ***tholes dismisses their people and cultures; he told a white audience African American neighborhoods are 'hell'. I'm sure if we make excuses for him there's a perfectly 'reasonable' explanation for all these statements, but the most likely genuine one is that he's a racist.

Calling a nation a *hithole is not the same as calling its people *hitholes. Again, you seem to be projecting your own, surpressed racism onto Trump. Plus, it is actually true that some places are *hitholes.