What is wrong with Quantum Mechanics?

[marke]

I can see why some people prefer to look to the sky for their answers. I really can.

Secular scientist: 'Should I go outside and play today?'
Friend; 'Look at the sky.'
Secular scientist: 'Oh yeah. It is thundering and lightening. I think I'll stay inside.'

 

[marke]

It's been around since 1900.



The core principles of the quanta are not hard to understand and should be obvious to anyone who ****s around with computers. Of course, when someone only believes the lies told by preachers and charlatans, I can see how understanding anything would be problematic.

I'm not the one saying old QM speculations by scientists who supported QM were stupid.

 

[calamity]

I admit I have doubts about some theories men claim are scientific realities, but I also see the fact that QM has raised new justifications for declaring some invisible matters of the spiritual dimension scientific realities.

No one except for the religious zealots declares anything. Scientist propose solutions, back up theories with lots of math and then seek verifying evidence via experimentation. Again, this should not be hard to understand.

 

[southwest88]

Blinded by the light?

Secular scientist: 'Should I go outside and play today?'
Friend; 'Look at the sky.'
Secular scientist: 'Oh yeah. It is thundering and lightening. I think I'll stay inside.'

lightening? Must be a landscape by El Greco. I'd hang around outside myself - see what else is on offer.

greco view of toledo - Bing

 

[zyzygy]

I'm not the one saying old QM speculations by scientists who supported QM were stupid.

Good. They were not stupid.

 

[zyzygy]

Perhaps you are right. What scientists thought possible in quantum mechanics last year may already have been proven wrong this year. Quantum Mechanics is a new field of scientific theory and is open to limitless new scientific possibilities. Here is one worth considering:

Quantum Mechanics | Scientific Proof of God

The physicists have observed that it requires a huge infusion of energy to elevate electrons from a lower level to a higher level. That’s how spirit matter or dark matter is converted into physical matter – by a huge infusion of energy, or syntropy, or God’s glory, power, and light. If that energy is released from the physical matter, then it goes back to being spirit matter. Where does this huge infusion of energy come from? It comes from the Quantum Realm, the Syntropy Realm, or the Zero-Point Field which is the Light of Christ. The explanatory power of Syntropy or Quantum Mechanics is through the roof!

Begging the question and applying circular reasoning – which are logic fallacies – the Materialists, Naturalists, Darwinists, Nihilists, and Atheists define “science” as Materialism and Naturalism. Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, and their derivatives are based upon a wide variety of different logic fallacies. Materialism and Naturalism are based exclusively on entropy. There’s NO Syntropy where Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, Nihilism, and Atheism are concerned.

The bolded is bollocks, to borrow a phrase from your scientific equal, Palandro.

 

[zyzygy]

I admit I have doubts about some theories men claim are scientific realities, but I also see the fact that QM has raised new justifications for declaring some invisible matters of the spiritual dimension scientific realities.

Which realities would these be?

 

[ataraxia]

QM is science theory, just like evolution is science theory. There are aspects of both theories which are problematic.

Which aspects?

Remember: Higgs is not quantum mechanics. Different things.

 

[zyzygy]

Which aspects?

Remember: Higgs is not quantum mechanics. Different things.

That has not got through to him yet.

 

[Mr Person]

Perhaps you are right. What scientists thought possible in quantum mechanics last year may already have been proven wrong this year. Quantum Mechanics is a new field of scientific theory and is open to limitless new scientific possibilities. Here is one worth considering:

Quantum Mechanics | Scientific Proof of God

The physicists have observed that it requires a huge infusion of energy to elevate electrons from a lower level to a higher level. That’s how spirit matter or dark matter is converted into physical matter – by a huge infusion of energy, or syntropy, or God’s glory, power, and light. If that energy is released from the physical matter, then it goes back to being spirit matter. Where does this huge infusion of energy come from? It comes from the Quantum Realm, the Syntropy Realm, or the Zero-Point Field which is the Light of Christ. The explanatory power of Syntropy or Quantum Mechanics is through the roof!

Begging the question and applying circular reasoning – which are logic fallacies – the Materialists, Naturalists, Darwinists, Nihilists, and Atheists define “science” as Materialism and Naturalism. Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, and their derivatives are based upon a wide variety of different logic fallacies. Materialism and Naturalism are based exclusively on entropy. There’s NO Syntropy where Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, Nihilism, and Atheism are concerned.

Mass is an emergent property of energy. Ask Einstein. Most of the property we observe as mass arises from the behavior color states of gluon fields (see quantum chromodynamics).

Also there is no such thing as "spirit matter" or "spirit mass". That is a very stupid thing to have copy/pasted.

 

[calamity]

Mass is an emergent property of energy. Ask Einstein. Most of the property we observe as mass is locked up in the color states of gluon fields (see quantum chromodynamics).

Also there is no such thing as "spirit matter" or "spirit mass". That is a very stupid thing to have copy/pasted.

And, energy appears to be an emergent property of a vacuum, at least in short bursts of time. In a way, that's pretty cool. Shame to see the Jesus freaks **** on it.

 

[zyzygy]

Mass is an emergent property of energy. Ask Einstein. Most of the property we observe as mass arises from the behavior color states of gluon fields (see quantum chromodynamics).

Also there is no such thing as "spirit matter" or "spirit mass". That is a very stupid thing to have copy/pasted.

The site that he linked to is a wacko pseudo-science travesty. Here is one of the works for sale.

Getting to Adam through Family Search
by Mark My Words
$2.99
Getting Your Family Tree to Adam through Family Search, a genealogy program produced by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints



Enough said.

 

[zyzygy]

The site is worth a look, it's hilarious.

 

[bomberfox]

Re: The family business

We can see evidence of his influence in the Creation Museum and the Ark Encounter. What a legacy. Thank God for using him to help build those two great testimonies.

The creation museum is a joke not backed up by evidence.

 

[zyzygy]

Re: The family business

Set to open in 2014, the Ark Encounter was to feature a petting zoo, a replica Tower of Babel, and the "historical" biblical journey from Abraham to the parting of the Red Sea.[15] Due to difficulties securing funding, this has since been scaled back to a "first phase" consisting of just the Ark itself, 30 pairs of stuffed animals that won't take up more space than is available

Ark Encounter - RationalWiki

People actually pay money to visit that heap of nonsense? :lamo:lamo

 

[zyzygy]

Re: The family business

Former creationist: Ark Park documentary exposes Ken Ham’s pseudoscience and false claims

As a science advocate, I take strong issue with the nonscience Ken Ham peddles to families and students. His parody of the scientific method does real harm, bleeding inexorably into education and public policy. The whole-hearted embrace of “alternative facts” and the rejection of plain evidence are making our society more and more polarized. Yet Ken Ham’s treatment of Williamstown is a reminder that these sorts of cult-like organizations have impacts that go much farther than the foolish ideas they promote.

Access Denied

 

[zyzygy]

'''Absolutely Wrong''': Bill Nye the Science Guy Takes on Noah'''s Ark Exhibit

 

[bomberfox]

Question: How did the universe come into existence?

Atheist answer: It just happened, but how do you know it has not always existed, besides there is no evidence of God and only stupidites believe in God anyway because evolution has proven life evolved from swamp gas in an alien environment so there was no need for God and besides the earth is billions of years old which proves the Bible is wrong and there could not have been a universal flood since there is not enough water and the ark could never have held all the animals on earth anyway proving again that the Bible is a work of fiction that only the ignorant could possible believe.

There is the i dont know part but for the biblical stories and god you not only have the geological strata, but also population mechanics, and the fact we know evolution happens that shows there was no global flood.

 

[bomberfox]

QM is science theory, just like evolution is science theory. There are aspects of both theories which are problematic.

You have not specified what the problems are.

 

[bomberfox]

Perhaps you are right. What scientists thought possible in quantum mechanics last year may already have been proven wrong this year. Quantum Mechanics is a new field of scientific theory and is open to limitless new scientific possibilities. Here is one worth considering:

Quantum Mechanics | Scientific Proof of God

The physicists have observed that it requires a huge infusion of energy to elevate electrons from a lower level to a higher level. That’s how spirit matter or dark matter is converted into physical matter – by a huge infusion of energy, or syntropy, or God’s glory, power, and light. If that energy is released from the physical matter, then it goes back to being spirit matter. Where does this huge infusion of energy come from? It comes from the Quantum Realm, the Syntropy Realm, or the Zero-Point Field which is the Light of Christ. The explanatory power of Syntropy or Quantum Mechanics is through the roof!

Begging the question and applying circular reasoning – which are logic fallacies – the Materialists, Naturalists, Darwinists, Nihilists, and Atheists define “science” as Materialism and Naturalism. Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, and their derivatives are based upon a wide variety of different logic fallacies. Materialism and Naturalism are based exclusively on entropy. There’s NO Syntropy where Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, Nihilism, and Atheism are concerned.

We call it evolutionary theory which is different from abiogenesis. Your last paragraph is just word salad.

 

[zyzygy]

You have not specified what the problems are.

I have asked him about that. No answer as of even date.

 

[zyzygy]

We call it evolutionary theory which is different from abiogenesis. Your last paragraph is just word salad.

The site that he linked to is a deliciously funny word salad.

 

[zyzygy]

There is the i dont know part but for the biblical stories and god you not only have the geological strata, but also population mechanics, and the fact we know evolution happens that shows there was no global flood.

And no Noah's Ark. When I was a child I didn't believe that ridiculous fairy tale.

 

[zyzygy]

We will take it that marke has retired, defeated.

 

[calamity]

We will take it that marke has retired, defeated.

Suspended. He'll be back, bible thumping crucifix and all.