What is wrong with Quantum Mechanics?

[Lisa]

I am not discrediting science. I am refuting errors and assumptions made by others who misunderstand science.

You have only ever misunderstood science when you constantly demand to view it through your illogical and hypocritical religious beliefs.

 

[ataraxia]

Wait....

Just wait...




You actually believe that they called it the "God particle" because they were trying to say it is proof that the biblical God exists?

That is a thing that you believe?

I don’t want to speak for him, but I was thinking that he was feeling threatened that it might be some kind of competitor for his God- a sort of a scientific replacement. Not sure though, and I’d be curious to find out.

 

[marke]

How Middle Ages of you to think that a magic being created the universe. Now, about these misconceptions that you have failed to post.

Question: How did the universe come into existence?

Atheist answer: It just happened, but how do you know it has not always existed, besides there is no evidence of God and only stupidites believe in God anyway because evolution has proven life evolved from swamp gas in an alien environment so there was no need for God and besides the earth is billions of years old which proves the Bible is wrong and there could not have been a universal flood since there is not enough water and the ark could never have held all the animals on earth anyway proving again that the Bible is a work of fiction that only the ignorant could possible believe.

 

[marke]

This sci-doc was rather enjoyable. I recommend it.


Jim Al-Khalili does an excellent job of walking us through the nothing-matter.

At least he can talk, even if he cannot prove anything he says.

 

[zyzygy]

Question: How did the universe come into existence?

Atheist answer: It just happened, but how do you know it has not always existed, besides there is no evidence of God and only stupidites believe in God anyway because evolution has proven life evolved from swamp gas in an alien environment so there was no need for God and besides the earth is billions of years old which proves the Bible is wrong and there could not have been a universal flood since there is not enough water and the ark could never have held all the animals on earth anyway proving again that the Bible is a work of fiction that only the ignorant could possible believe.

For once you are correct! Well done! I am glad to see that you believe that the story of the Ark is a work of fiction.

 

[zyzygy]

At least he can talk, even if he cannot prove anything he says.

Irony meters explode yet again! What about these misconceptions that you mentioned? Name some.

 

[zyzygy]

Stephen Hawking's Final Book Says There's 'No Possibility' of God in Our Universe | Live Science

 

[marke]

I'm waiting to hear how QM opens up the possibility. The probability is another matter.

Maybe this will help:

Quantum Mechanics Is Spiritual Mechanics | Quantum Neuroscience

In contrast, the goal of the Materialists, Naturalists, Darwinists, Nihilists, Behaviorists, Determinists, Physical Reductionists, Atheists, and Classical Physicists is to convince people that certain things DO NOT EXIST. That goal is totally worthless. That’s NOT science. That’s religion and dogma. It takes an infinite amount of blind-faith to believe that something DOES NOT EXIST. Furthermore, it’s philosophically and scientifically impossible to prove that something does not exist. It can’t be done, which means that they will NEVER be able to prove that Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, and Atheism are true. ...

When it comes to Scientific Naturalism, Darwinism, and Physicalism, these pseudo-sciences are based exclusively on entropy. Entropy is death, which means that these pseudo-sciences are literally a Dead-End to begin with. There’s NO life there! Entropy cannot produce life. Entropy cannot produce order. Entropy can only produce death. Entropy IS death. Evolution is entropy. Evolution is death. The theory of evolution is Creation by Death. Please explain to me how that’s supposed to work. ..

One of my greatest and most useful scientific discoveries is that Quantum Mechanics is Spiritual Mechanics or Supernatural Mechanics. The proven and verified existence of Action at a Distance falsifies Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, Nihilism, Behaviorism, Atheism, Classical Physics, and their derivatives. All you really want is the truth, unless you are trying to deceive yourself.

 

[marke]

I'm waiting to hear how QM opens up the possibility. The probability is another matter.

Maybe this will help:

Quantum Mechanics Is Spiritual Mechanics | Quantum Neuroscience

In contrast, the goal of the Materialists, Naturalists, Darwinists, Nihilists, Behaviorists, Determinists, Physical Reductionists, Atheists, and Classical Physicists is to convince people that certain things DO NOT EXIST. That goal is totally worthless. That’s NOT science. That’s religion and dogma. It takes an infinite amount of blind-faith to believe that something DOES NOT EXIST. Furthermore, it’s philosophically and scientifically impossible to prove that something does not exist. It can’t be done, which means that they will NEVER be able to prove that Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, and Atheism are true. ...

When it comes to Scientific Naturalism, Darwinism, and Physicalism, these pseudo-sciences are based exclusively on entropy. Entropy is death, which means that these pseudo-sciences are literally a Dead-End to begin with. There’s NO life there! Entropy cannot produce life. Entropy cannot produce order. Entropy can only produce death. Entropy IS death. Evolution is entropy. Evolution is death. The theory of evolution is Creation by Death. Please explain to me how that’s supposed to work. ..

One of my greatest and most useful scientific discoveries is that Quantum Mechanics is Spiritual Mechanics or Supernatural Mechanics. The proven and verified existence of Action at a Distance falsifies Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, Nihilism, Behaviorism, Atheism, Classical Physics, and their derivatives. All you really want is the truth, unless you are trying to deceive yourself.

 

[calamity]

Maybe this will help:

Quantum Mechanics Is Spiritual Mechanics | Quantum Neuroscience

In contrast, the goal of the Materialists, Naturalists, Darwinists, Nihilists, Behaviorists, Determinists, Physical Reductionists, Atheists, and Classical Physicists is to convince people that certain things DO NOT EXIST. That goal is totally worthless. That’s NOT science. That’s religion and dogma. It takes an infinite amount of blind-faith to believe that something DOES NOT EXIST. Furthermore, it’s philosophically and scientifically impossible to prove that something does not exist. It can’t be done, which means that they will NEVER be able to prove that Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, and Atheism are true. ...

When it comes to Scientific Naturalism, Darwinism, and Physicalism, these pseudo-sciences are based exclusively on entropy. Entropy is death, which means that these pseudo-sciences are literally a Dead-End to begin with. There’s NO life there! Entropy cannot produce life. Entropy cannot produce order. Entropy can only produce death. Entropy IS death. Evolution is entropy. Evolution is death. The theory of evolution is Creation by Death. Please explain to me how that’s supposed to work. ..

One of my greatest and most useful scientific discoveries is that Quantum Mechanics is Spiritual Mechanics or Supernatural Mechanics. The proven and verified existence of Action at a Distance falsifies Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, Nihilism, Behaviorism, Atheism, Classical Physics, and their derivatives. All you really want is the truth, unless you are trying to deceive yourself.

Sadly, for you, there is far more evidence of the existence of Quantum Fluctuations than there is this god you keep pushing on people.

 

[marke]

Sadly, for you, there is far more evidence of the existence of Quantum Fluctuations than there is this god you keep pushing on people.

There is evidence of neutrinos also but, like God, they are invisible.

 

[calamity]

There is evidence of neutrinos also but, like God, they are invisible.

Seeing evidence presented for the existence of this so-called god would be greatly appreciated. Have any?

 

[zyzygy]

Maybe this will help:

Quantum Mechanics Is Spiritual Mechanics | Quantum Neuroscience

In contrast, the goal of the Materialists, Naturalists, Darwinists, Nihilists, Behaviorists, Determinists, Physical Reductionists, Atheists, and Classical Physicists is to convince people that certain things DO NOT EXIST. That goal is totally worthless. That’s NOT science. That’s religion and dogma. It takes an infinite amount of blind-faith to believe that something DOES NOT EXIST. Furthermore, it’s philosophically and scientifically impossible to prove that something does not exist. It can’t be done, which means that they will NEVER be able to prove that Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, and Atheism are true. ...

When it comes to Scientific Naturalism, Darwinism, and Physicalism, these pseudo-sciences are based exclusively on entropy. Entropy is death, which means that these pseudo-sciences are literally a Dead-End to begin with. There’s NO life there! Entropy cannot produce life. Entropy cannot produce order. Entropy can only produce death. Entropy IS death. Evolution is entropy. Evolution is death. The theory of evolution is Creation by Death. Please explain to me how that’s supposed to work. ..

One of my greatest and most useful scientific discoveries is that Quantum Mechanics is Spiritual Mechanics or Supernatural Mechanics. The proven and verified existence of Action at a Distance falsifies Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, Nihilism, Behaviorism, Atheism, Classical Physics, and their derivatives. All you really want is the truth, unless you are trying to deceive yourself.

Nonsense.

 

[zyzygy]

There is evidence of neutrinos also but, like God, they are invisible.

But no evidence for any god.

 

[ataraxia]

Maybe this will help:

Quantum Mechanics Is Spiritual Mechanics | Quantum Neuroscience

In contrast, the goal of the Materialists, Naturalists, Darwinists, Nihilists, Behaviorists, Determinists, Physical Reductionists, Atheists, and Classical Physicists is to convince people that certain things DO NOT EXIST. That goal is totally worthless. That’s NOT science. That’s religion and dogma. It takes an infinite amount of blind-faith to believe that something DOES NOT EXIST. Furthermore, it’s philosophically and scientifically impossible to prove that something does not exist. It can’t be done, which means that they will NEVER be able to prove that Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, and Atheism are true. ...

When it comes to Scientific Naturalism, Darwinism, and Physicalism, these pseudo-sciences are based exclusively on entropy. Entropy is death, which means that these pseudo-sciences are literally a Dead-End to begin with. There’s NO life there! Entropy cannot produce life. Entropy cannot produce order. Entropy can only produce death. Entropy IS death. Evolution is entropy. Evolution is death. The theory of evolution is Creation by Death. Please explain to me how that’s supposed to work. ..

One of my greatest and most useful scientific discoveries is that Quantum Mechanics is Spiritual Mechanics or Supernatural Mechanics. The proven and verified existence of Action at a Distance falsifies Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, Nihilism, Behaviorism, Atheism, Classical Physics, and their derivatives. All you really want is the truth, unless you are trying to deceive yourself.

So is quantum mechanics sound science or not? Or does that all depend on whether it supports or refutes the existence of a god, preferably a Christian one?

 

[MoSurveyor]

In contrast, the goal of the Materialists, Naturalists, Darwinists, Nihilists, Behaviorists, Determinists, Physical Reductionists, Atheists, and Classical Physicists is to convince people that certain things DO NOT EXIST. That goal is totally worthless. That’s NOT science. That’s religion and dogma. It takes an infinite amount of blind-faith to believe that something DOES NOT EXIST. Furthermore, it’s philosophically and scientifically impossible to prove that something does not exist. It can’t be done, which means that they will NEVER be able to prove that Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, and Atheism are true. ...

Oh, I would just LOVE to see your definitions for the above "-ists", because they certainly must be unique. :lol:

When it comes to Scientific Naturalism, Darwinism, and Physicalism, these pseudo-sciences are based exclusively on entropy. Entropy is death, which means that these pseudo-sciences are literally a Dead-End to begin with. There’s NO life there! Entropy cannot produce life. Entropy cannot produce order. Entropy can only produce death. Entropy IS death. Evolution is entropy. Evolution is death. The theory of evolution is Creation by Death. Please explain to me how that’s supposed to work.

To believe that life does not exist without death has GOT to be one of the funniest things I've encountered in a very long time. Thanks for the 2 minute belly laugh!!
:lamo:lamo:lamo



PS I'll watch the rest of this comedy unfold -hopefully- without farther comment. But there might be another wild statement requiring another "Thanks for the laughs" on my part ... :lol:

 

[marke]

So is quantum mechanics sound science or not? Or does that all depend on whether it supports or refutes the existence of a god, preferably a Christian one?

QM is science theory, just like evolution is science theory. There are aspects of both theories which are problematic.

 

[marke]

Oh, I would just LOVE to see your definitions for the above "-ists", because they certainly must be unique. :lol:


To believe that life does not exist without death has GOT to be one of the funniest things I've encountered in a very long time. Thanks for the 2 minute belly laugh!!
:lamo:lamo:lamo



PS I'll watch the rest of this comedy unfold -hopefully- without farther comment. But there might be another wild statement requiring another "Thanks for the laughs" on my part ... :lol:

Strangely, there are theories in QM in which it can be said a living creature could be dead and alive at the same time. I know it's weird.

Dead or Alive, Schrodinger's Cat Can Be in 2 Boxes at Once | Live Science

Not only can the quantum cat be alive and dead at the same time — but it can also be in two places at once, new research shows

 

[zyzygy]

Strangely, there are theories in QM in which it can be said a living creature could be dead and alive at the same time. I know it's weird.

Dead or Alive, Schrodinger's Cat Can Be in 2 Boxes at Once | Live Science

Not only can the quantum cat be alive and dead at the same time — but it can also be in two places at once, new research shows

Since that time, there has been ample evidence that wavefunction collapse is not driven by conscious observers alone. In fact, every interaction a quantum particle makes can collapse its state. Careful analysis reveals that the Schrodinger Cat "experiment" would play out in the real world as follows: as soon as the radioactive atom interacts with the Geiger counter, it collapses from its non-decayed/decayed state into one definite state. The Geiger counter gets definitely triggered and the Cat gets definitely killed. Or the Geiger counter gets definitely not triggered and the cat is definitely alive. But both don't happen.

In summary, quantum state collapse is not driven just by conscious observers, and "Schrodinger's Cat" was just a teaching tool invented to try to make this fact more obvious by reducing the observer-driven notion to absurdity. Unfortunately, many popular science writers in our day continue to propagate the misconception that a quantum state (and therefore reality itself) is determined by conscious observers. They use this erroneous claim as a springboard into unsubstantial and non-scientific discussions about the nature of reality, consciousness, and even Eastern mysticism. To them, "Schrodinger's Cat" is not an embarrassing indication that their claims are wrong, but proof that the world is as absurd as they claim. Such authors either misunderstand Schrodinger's Cat, or purposely twist it to sell books.

What did Schrodinger's Cat experiment prove? | Science Questions with Surprising Answers.

 

[zyzygy]

Oh, I would just LOVE to see your definitions for the above "-ists", because they certainly must be unique. :lol:


To believe that life does not exist without death has GOT to be one of the funniest things I've encountered in a very long time. Thanks for the 2 minute belly laugh!!
:lamo:lamo:lamo



PS I'll watch the rest of this comedy unfold -hopefully- without farther comment. But there might be another wild statement requiring another "Thanks for the laughs" on my part ... :lol:

It takes a huge amount of blind faith to believe that a magic god exists. I agree with your point about comedy. marke should charge us entertainment tax.

 

[zyzygy]

QM is science theory, just like evolution is science theory. There are aspects of both theories which are problematic.

You don't see a problem with believing in the existence of a magic god?

 

[calamity]

Strangely, there are theories in QM in which it can be said a living creature could be dead and alive at the same time. I know it's weird.

Dead or Alive, Schrodinger's Cat Can Be in 2 Boxes at Once | Live Science

Not only can the quantum cat be alive and dead at the same time — but it can also be in two places at once, new research shows

I can see why some people prefer to look to the sky for their answers. I really can.

 

[marke]

Since that time, there has been ample evidence that wavefunction collapse is not driven by conscious observers alone. In fact, every interaction a quantum particle makes can collapse its state. Careful analysis reveals that the Schrodinger Cat "experiment" would play out in the real world as follows: as soon as the radioactive atom interacts with the Geiger counter, it collapses from its non-decayed/decayed state into one definite state. The Geiger counter gets definitely triggered and the Cat gets definitely killed. Or the Geiger counter gets definitely not triggered and the cat is definitely alive. But both don't happen.

In summary, quantum state collapse is not driven just by conscious observers, and "Schrodinger's Cat" was just a teaching tool invented to try to make this fact more obvious by reducing the observer-driven notion to absurdity. Unfortunately, many popular science writers in our day continue to propagate the misconception that a quantum state (and therefore reality itself) is determined by conscious observers. They use this erroneous claim as a springboard into unsubstantial and non-scientific discussions about the nature of reality, consciousness, and even Eastern mysticism. To them, "Schrodinger's Cat" is not an embarrassing indication that their claims are wrong, but proof that the world is as absurd as they claim. Such authors either misunderstand Schrodinger's Cat, or purposely twist it to sell books.

What did Schrodinger's Cat experiment prove? | Science Questions with Surprising Answers.

Perhaps you are right. What scientists thought possible in quantum mechanics last year may already have been proven wrong this year. Quantum Mechanics is a new field of scientific theory and is open to limitless new scientific possibilities. Here is one worth considering:

Quantum Mechanics | Scientific Proof of God

The physicists have observed that it requires a huge infusion of energy to elevate electrons from a lower level to a higher level. That’s how spirit matter or dark matter is converted into physical matter – by a huge infusion of energy, or syntropy, or God’s glory, power, and light. If that energy is released from the physical matter, then it goes back to being spirit matter. Where does this huge infusion of energy come from? It comes from the Quantum Realm, the Syntropy Realm, or the Zero-Point Field which is the Light of Christ. The explanatory power of Syntropy or Quantum Mechanics is through the roof!

Begging the question and applying circular reasoning – which are logic fallacies – the Materialists, Naturalists, Darwinists, Nihilists, and Atheists define “science” as Materialism and Naturalism. Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, and their derivatives are based upon a wide variety of different logic fallacies. Materialism and Naturalism are based exclusively on entropy. There’s NO Syntropy where Materialism, Naturalism, Darwinism, Nihilism, and Atheism are concerned.

 

[marke]

You don't see a problem with believing in the existence of a magic god?

I admit I have doubts about some theories men claim are scientific realities, but I also see the fact that QM has raised new justifications for declaring some invisible matters of the spiritual dimension scientific realities.

 

[calamity]

Perhaps you are right. What scientists thought possible in quantum mechanics last year may already have been proven wrong this year. Quantum Mechanics is a new field of scientific theory ...

It's been around since 1900.

In 1838 Michael Faraday discovered cathode rays. These studies were followed by the 1859 statement of the black-body radiation problem by Gustav Kirchhoff, the 1877 suggestion by Ludwig Boltzmann that the energy states of a physical system can be discrete, and the 1900 quantum hypothesis of Max Planck.[7] Planck's hypothesis that energy is radiated and absorbed in discrete "quanta" (or energy packets) precisely matched the observed patterns of black-body radiation.
Quantum mechanics - Wikipedia

The core principles of the quanta are not hard to understand and should be obvious to anyone who ****s around with computers. Of course, when someone only believes the lies told by preachers and charlatans, I can see how understanding anything would be problematic.