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[W:517] Sexual Hypocrisy

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Glorification or Objectification?


#20 Clara Bow
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-11.html#post1070126612
#19 Louise Brooks
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-12.html#post1070129726
#18 Jean Harlow
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-16.html#post1070134570
#17 Marlene Dietrich
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-19.html#post1070146716
#16 Dorothy Lamour
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-20.html#post1070150130
#15 Betty Grable
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-21.html#post1070157530
#14 Jane Russell
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-22.html#post1070164436
#13 Jayne Mansfield
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-23.html#post1070169165
#12 Marilyn Monroe
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-24.html#post1070176581
#11 Raquel Welch
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-25.html#post1070188023
#10 Natalie Wood
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-26.html#post1070200362
#9 Pam Grier
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-28.html#post1070205058
#8 Bo Derek
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-30.html#post1070223425
#7 Sharon Stone
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-31.html#post1070240028
#6 Jessica Alba
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-32.html#post1070273040
#5 Halle Berry
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-33.html#post1070315436
#4 Scarlett Johansson
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-34.html#post1070353290
#3 Angelina Jolie
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-35.html#post1070442433​
 
Angel said:
Your question reveals either a lack of consideration on your part, Rich, or shallowness of consideration. Look but two posts above your own, at #347, and you will be apprised of the federal case made out by radical feminism based on pictures, a case fifty years in the making. Read the OP. Read through the thread. If you don't understand what "posting pictures of women" is about here, if you don't understand what the overall question accompanying the posting of pictures here in this thread -- "Glorification or Objectification?" -- is about, then perhaps you are incapable of understanding the topic of this thread, and that may be that. If so, then good luck and God bless, but I can't help you.
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So sex sells - watch a TV commercial.

Lead women in Hollywood movies are young and sexy.
 
Rich2018 said:
So sex sells - watch a TV commercial.

Lead women in Hollywood movies are young and sexy.
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So why do you think sex sells?
And why do you think women in Hollywood movies are young and sexy?
 
Rich2018 said:
Because the target market is predominantly young males who are attracted to that image.
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And what is the semantic relation between "appreciation" and "attraction"?
 
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Rich2018 said:
And the reply was "Appreciation refers to an admiration of effort"


If you have a point to make, then make it.
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Your reply, inaccurate as it is in itself, does not answer the question asked of you.
Indeed, it did not answer the question twice.

Much obliged for the pointless bumps to my thread at any rate.
 
Rich2018 said:
So you have no point to make?
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That's par for the course with all of Angel's threads. He'll post a bunch of gigantic, bolded statements about what he'd like to discuss, and then post a bunch of irrelevant links to pseudoscientific nonsense and stammer in circles around anyone trying to pin down what his damn point is.
 
Jesse Booth said:
That's par for the course with all of Angel's threads. He'll post a bunch of gigantic, bolded statements about what he'd like to discuss, and then post a bunch of irrelevant links to pseudoscientific nonsense and stammer in circles around anyone trying to pin down what his damn point is.
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I know Angel from Belief and Skepticism.

On the three threads I've challenged him to make a point, he's refused.


He constructs grandiose OP's but refuses to explain them.

I think he is wrapped up in the world as he wants it to be.
 
Rich2018 said:
I know Angel from Belief and Skepticism.

On the three threads I've challenged him to make a point, he's refused.


He constructs grandiose OP's but refuses to explain them.

I think he is wrapped up in the world as he wants it to be.
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For someone unwilling to actually put forth an argument in debate, he sure does seem insistent on keeping his cringe-inducing threads going for dozens of pages. Just between you and me, I think he writes like he's upset he got passed over for an editorial opening.
 
Jesse Booth said:
For someone unwilling to actually put forth an argument in debate, he sure does seem insistent on keeping his cringe-inducing threads going for dozens of pages. Just between you and me, I think he writes like he's upset he got passed over for an editorial opening.
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A good opening post needs some sort of fact and a response.

Then a structured argument to either explain or cure it.
 
Jesse Booth said:
That's par for the course with all of Angel's threads. He'll post a bunch of gigantic, bolded statements about what he'd like to discuss, and then post a bunch of irrelevant links to pseudoscientific nonsense and stammer in circles around anyone trying to pin down what his damn point is.
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And this post is par for the course with posters who don't know what they're talking about but insist on talking anyway. Or can you produce "irrelevant links" or "pseudoscientific nonsense" or a post wherein I "stammer in circles"? If not, then this hit-job of a post from you is just bull****.
 
Rich2018 said:
I know Angel from Belief and Skepticism.

On the three threads I've challenged him to make a point, he's refused.
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Produce the challenges and the refusal. I say you're just lying in this spite post in the aftermath of my exposure of your exercise in bad faith here in Sex and Sexuality. Let's see these posts of mine that don't make a point.
 
Angel said:
Produce the challenges and the refusal. I say you're just lying in this spite post in the aftermath of my exposure of your exercise in bad faith here in Sex and Sexuality. Let's see these posts of mine that don't make a point.
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Make your points on same sex marriage, sexual hypocrisy and attraction.
 
Rich2018 said:
Make your points on same sex marriage, sexual hypocrisy and attraction.
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Angel said:
Whatever arguments there are against marriage itself must apply to same-sex marriage, one would suppose.
Are there arguments against marriage itself?
Divorce rates being what they are, I would be surprised if there weren't cogent arguments against marriage itself.
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Angel said:
As I said earlier, there are no arguments against same-sex marriage that are not arguments against marriage per se, and at the same time, therefore, arguments against opposite-sex marriage.
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Angel said:
It's not a new definition.

And yes John Q Public deplores or says he deplores the sexual objectification of women and at the same time sexually objectifies and enjoys sexually objectifying women.
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Angel said:
Objectification is an essential component of art and science, and in our treatment of non-human animals, and in every person's relation to his.her physical self.

Social Psychology of Representations

Objectification - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics

Objectification Theory

Body Objectification: The Psychology Behind This Epidemic | Psychology Today


Nature = Objects


Edge.org

Overcoming the objectification of nature
http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~rar/papers/RogersWJC1998.pdf
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Angel said:
No, my reference to animals had nothing to do with zoophilia. We objectify animals when we kill them for sport or raise them for food.
And as for art, yes, "Art is the expression of the full range of human emotions" -- by way of objectifying those emotions in the various artistic mediums.

Objectify​

objectify - Wiktionary
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Angel said:
...Our culture is self-contradictory and hypocritical in this matter of sexual objectification.
When it comes to sex, cognitive dissonance is rampant in America.
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And in many other posts, starting with the OP.
 
Angel said:
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Glorification or Objectification?
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Leaving the Silly Squall Behind Us, We return to the charge.

Do you know whose portrait that is?
Mary Shelly's.
Can you appreciate the irony?
 
There is some serious band width being chewed up here to discuss...what... that sex sells? That men and women are different or that sex and sexuality are used as a means of entertainment, marketing, etc?

Shocking.

Bruce Springsteen goes on stage in jeans and a t shirt and expresses his image and plays to a crowd. Miley Cyrus wears a flesh colored thong and tape over her nipples and expresses her image and plays to a crowd. Both feel empowered. Which one is?


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