[W:212,493] Another MAGA hat attack, this time 4 arrested

[Peter King]

There you go again; justifying violence.

1. no actual violence

2. calling someone an agitator is not justifying violence, only idiots respond to agitators

 

[Hypothetical]

well, that was before I investigated the facts of the matter and then the whole story kinda changed now didn't it. We were no longer talking about 4 people being arrested for an attack on a maga agitator but we were talking about one woman who took the hat of a maga person. Which kinda changed the story a whole heap.

maga agitator.... I think you mean a guy wearing a hat.

 

[buck]

Having zero tolerance for someone does not mean you don't care about Trump supporters.

And only one extreme right maga hat wearer had his hat taken from his head, not too much violating of rights went on there.

She also did not say she "does not care about Trump supporters" she said she does not care about their feelings and it was in connection to the things she wrote in her post, not about the hat taking incident.

As far as I know, he was simply a student who has a hat on. When it was taken and the girl tried to run off, he chased and tried to stop her. Extreme? Please continue.

He was hit by some emotionally fragile girl on the way to the police station to file report and stolen, personal property. Seems enough to me.

and I know she doesn't care about Trump supporter's feelings. It's all about "me, my me" with her.

 

[Peter King]

maga agitator.... I think you mean a guy wearing a hat.

Yup, it was a Texas Nomads SAR organized demo. The leader was at the at the Unite the Right demonstration. That is pretty much a right wing thing now wasn't it. And if you are a supporter/member of that group and you go march at a college you trying to agitate things. The only bad thing to do was respond to them. They should have ignored them.

 

[Peter King]

As far as I know, he was simply a student who has a hat on. When it was taken and the girl tried to run off, he chased and tried to stop her. Extreme? Please continue.

He was hit by some emotionally fragile girl on the way to the police station to file report and stolen, personal property. Seems enough to me.

and I know she doesn't care about Trump supporter's feelings. It's all about "me, my me" with her.

He was at a Texas Nomads SAR (which for those who do not know stands for sons of the American revolution) organized rally. Their leader is a huge Trump fan, a huge leftist hated, a huge muslim hater and someone who went to the Unite the Right march. If you join that kind of a protest you are not just simply a student.

Again, nobody has the right to violently assault anyone out of a political disagreement, especially not when someone is trying to agitate you in a response. Just walk away and laugh at the haters.

Also, she was talking about the feelings of Trump fans when it comes to the things she was writing about, at least that is how it read to me. One more thing, I am pretty sure a lot of Trump fans could also care less about the feelings of democrats, that is the reality of political discourse in the USA (and other countries, but then with different parties).

 

[Idiometer]

Yeah...just look at how far right you have to go to make a comparison. Thanks for proving my point.

What point? Far right ... far left ... idiots. Anyone who uses violence to make a political point is an idiot. MY point is that roughing up someone a little over a stupid hat is child's play compared to walking into a synagogue and spraying bullets. Get some perspective, please.

 

[Idiometer]

I see you desperately trying to make a comparison point by going all the way over to mass shooters in an attempt to validate this behavior. When you have to go that far to make a comparison, you've lost already.

Oh good ****ing grief.

Please quote me anywhere on this forum EVER validating violent behavior. I dare you.

:failpail:

Pathetic right wingers just WILL NOT own their ****. I'm not the desperado here, sweetums.

 

[Idiometer]

Are yoi going to stand there and let someone assault you?

Nope. I would duck.

I'm not a man, and I don't hit people, period. For you to make a claim like that just shows what a knuckle dragging thug you are. Hitting girls ... how pathetic can you get?

Big man, aren't ya?

:tink:

 

[Grim17]

It's Antifa. Good, glad they got arrested.
Now, do you want to reconsider labeling those participants as "tolerant leftists" when in reality they're members of Antifa and sympathizers?

I was being sarcastic... Those leftist girls are the polar opposite of tolerant.

 

[Idiometer]

- Nidal Hasan – Ft Hood Shooter: Registered Democrat and Muslim.
– Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter – black liberal/Obama voter
– Seung-Hui Cho – Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.
– James Holmes – the “Dark Knight”/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occu*py guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.
– Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.
– Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas – Leftist Democrat
– Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter – Leftist, Marxist.
– Harris and Klebold, the Columbine Shooters – families registered Democrats and progressive Leftists.
– Bill Ayers, Weather Underground bomber – Leftist Democrat.

Really? That's what you have?

Nidal Hassan was a Muslim extremist.

Aaron Alexis was mentally ill, with a history of losing his temper. Again, the shooting was not ideologically motivated.

Seung-Hui Cho, again, a history of mental illness. According to reports, the first person he shot was a girl who he felt had rejected him. Again, no ideological motive, nothing to do with being left or right.

James Holmes was a psychiatric patient of the medical director of Anschutz's Student Mental Health Services, an actual mental patient. Again, no political motive. Look at any pucture of him ... it's obvious he's nuts.

Amy Bishop was pissed off because she wasn't granted tenure. She even wrote an unpublished novel in which the main character was a woman struggling with suicidal thoughts at the threat of not earning tenure. I found nothing about her to bear out your "rabid leftist" claim, so you would have to prove that. She was another nut case, and that was not her first shooting, either. In 1986, she shot and killed her brother in an incident officially ruled an accident. She was also questioned, along with her husband, after a 1993 pipe-bomb incident directed toward her lab supervisor. Again, not a leftist related crime.

Andrew J. Stack, I'll give you that one, but be honest: who doesn't feel like sticking it to the IRS now and then?

Jared Loughner is schizophrenic, ffs. Not even competent to stand trial. What makes you think he was a leftist?

The Columbine shooters were kids. I don't see how their parents' party affiliation figures into it. Their reasons for their rampage had nothing to do with ideology, it was about being bullied by the school jocks and getting revenge.

As for Ayers, I'll give you that one, too, but with the caveat that killing was not intentional ... he and his idiot cohorts thought the building was empty.

For everyone dead at the hands of people you're CLAIMING are leftists (most of whom were not), I can give you tit for tat on dozens killed by rabid righties who wrote right wing manifestos about their views. Do you really want to indulge in dick waving on this? Because even though I'm a woman, I'm guessing mine is bigger than yours.

Epic fail.

:failpail:

Seriously, dude, don't you know by now that I know how to look stuff up and come back at ya?

 

[buck]

He was at a Texas Nomads SAR (which for those who do not know stands for sons of the American revolution) organized rally. Their leader is a huge Trump fan, a huge leftist hated, a huge muslim hater and someone who went to the Unite the Right march. If you join that kind of a protest you are not just simply a student.

Anyone that goes to see a (supposed) rally that didn't even occur does not mean that he supports everything that group stands for nor does it mean that he is an extremist. I don't know anything about Texas SAR or their leader, but I have doubts that hes an extremist. Did he go to the unite the right rally to yell about jews, or was he just one of the people there to just protest the taking down of the statue? The later, doesn't make him an extremist and puts him in the majority of America.

In a new HuffPost/YouGov poll, a third of Americans favor removing statues and memorials of Confederate leaders, with 49 percent opposed. Just 29 percent of Americans favor changing the names of streets, schools and buildings commemorating Confederate leaders, while half are opposed.

Polls Find Little Support For Confederate Statue Removal -- But How You Ask Matters | HuffPost

 

[nekrodev]

list snip

honestly, i can't believe you actually went through the effort of that. you know they're not arguing in good faith. Snopes has covered this, as well, if you have any more concerns - FACT CHECK: Is This List of Democrat Shooters Accurate?

 

[Sabre]

Really? That's what you have?

Nidal Hassan was a Muslim extremist.

Aaron Alexis was mentally ill, with a history of losing his temper. Again, the shooting was not ideologically motivated.

Seung-Hui Cho, again, a history of mental illness. According to reports, the first person he shot was a girl who he felt had rejected him. Again, no ideological motive, nothing to do with being left or right.

James Holmes was a psychiatric patient of the medical director of Anschutz's Student Mental Health Services, an actual mental patient. Again, no political motive. Look at any pucture of him ... it's obvious he's nuts.

Amy Bishop was pissed off because she wasn't granted tenure. She even wrote an unpublished novel in which the main character was a woman struggling with suicidal thoughts at the threat of not earning tenure. I found nothing about her to bear out your "rabid leftist" claim, so you would have to prove that. She was another nut case, and that was not her first shooting, either. In 1986, she shot and killed her brother in an incident officially ruled an accident. She was also questioned, along with her husband, after a 1993 pipe-bomb incident directed toward her lab supervisor. Again, not a leftist related crime.

Andrew J. Stack, I'll give you that one, but be honest: who doesn't feel like sticking it to the IRS now and then?

Jared Loughner is schizophrenic, ffs. Not even competent to stand trial. What makes you think he was a leftist?

The Columbine shooters were kids. I don't see how their parents' party affiliation figures into it. Their reasons for their rampage had nothing to do with ideology, it was about being bullied by the school jocks and getting revenge.

As for Ayers, I'll give you that one, too, but with the caveat that killing was not intentional ... he and his idiot cohorts thought the building was empty.

For everyone dead at the hands of people you're CLAIMING are leftists (most of whom were not), I can give you tit for tat on dozens killed by rabid righties who wrote right wing manifestos about their views. Do you really want to indulge in dick waving on this? Because even though I'm a woman, I'm guessing mine is bigger than yours.

Epic fail.

:failpail:

Seriously, dude, don't you know by now that I know how to look stuff up and come back at ya?

Yeah, u da big (wo)man?? on campus fo sure ..... "dick waving"?? "I'm a woman?, I'm guessing mine is bigger than yours." Well I am sure something of yours is bigger. Typical lib, confirmation bias takes over and all you got is insults to boost your failing ego.

 

[nekrodev]

Yeah, u da big (wo)man?? on campus fo sure ..... "dick waving"?? "I'm a woman?, I'm guessing mine is bigger than yours." Well I am sure something of yours is bigger. Typical lib, confirmation bias takes over and all you got is insults to boost your failing ego.

typical conservative, making things up and then doubling down when you're caught / called out.

 

[haymarket]

Nope...I didn't forget anything.

already pointed out what you forgot.

 

[haymarket]

I never said anything about wiping anyone's ass. :lamo

WOW! That flew right over your head.

 

[Peter King]

What point? Far right ... far left ... idiots. Anyone who uses violence to make a political point is an idiot. MY point is that roughing up someone a little over a stupid hat is child's play compared to walking into a synagogue and spraying bullets. Get some perspective, please.

The only violence at the University was the theft/taking off the head of a maga hat.

 

[Peter King]

- Nidal Hasan – Ft Hood Shooter: Registered Democrat and Muslim.
– Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter – black liberal/Obama voter
– Seung-Hui Cho – Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.
– James Holmes – the “Dark Knight”/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occu*py guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.
– Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.
– Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas – Leftist Democrat
– Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter – Leftist, Marxist.
– Harris and Klebold, the Columbine Shooters – families registered Democrats and progressive Leftists.
– Bill Ayers, Weather Underground bomber – Leftist Democrat.

In 2007, a registered Democrat named Seung – Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.

FALSE

Seung-Hui Cho was not a registered Democrat. Cho was born in South Korea and was a legal resident alien of the United States, which makes it exceedingly unlikely that he was registered to vote in Virginia. Furthermore, Virginia does not have partisan voter registration, so even if Cho had been registered, he would not have been registered as a Democrat.

As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.

UNPROVEN

Shooter: Aaron Alexis

The claim that Aaron Alexis was a Democrat can be traced back to an article published by The National Report, a fake news web site that has a long history of publishing misinformation

Politics, however, were not the motivation behind the attack:

The government contractor who killed 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard last week was driven by delusions that he was being controlled by low-frequency radio waves and scratched the words “End the torment!” on the barrel of the shotgun he used, the FBI said Wednesday, offering new, chilling details of the attack.

In 2011, a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.

FALSE

The claim that James Holmes was a registered Democrat stems from a Breitbart article that was based on the voter registration of a different man named James Holmes. The article was eventually updated to state that Holmes may not have been registered to vote at all

Newly-released information on the suspect’s birthdate (which, as indicated in our initial report, was a slight mismatch), combined with new details Breitbart News has obtained about the suspect’s likely addresses, together suggest that the suspect may, in fact, not have been registered to vote.

ABC News made a similar mistake when they tied Holmes to the tea party. That report also resulted in a correction:

An earlier ABC News broadcast report suggested that a Jim Holmes of a Colorado Tea Party organization might be the suspect, but that report was incorrect. Several other local residents with similar names were also contacted via social media by members of the public who mistook them for the suspect.

We found no record of Holmes’s political affiliation, if he indeed had any.

FACT CHECK: Is This List of Democrat Shooters Accurate?

There is a few names of you list that are almost certainly bogus.

 

[Moderate Right]

Tolerant leftists attacking people because they're wearing a MAGA hat has become all too familiar these days, especially on college campuses. This time it took place at Texas State University and unlike other campuses where police turn a blind eye to these type attacks, police immediately took action.

I find the unhinged anger, the disrespect toward police, and the arrogant self righteousness of those horrible girls very troubling, because these are the people who will one day be in charge of this country and nobody seems to give a damn.

Methinks you don't understand. The left are very tolerant of all those who agree with them. Anyone else? Tolerance is throw out the window.

 

[Moderate Right]

Just another sign that the bad old days of hate and division have returned under Trump.

Ummmmmmmmmm the hate is on the left.

 

[ocean515]

Just another sign that the bad old days of hate and division have returned under Trump.

Right, because someone wearing a hat is a threat to the Nation and the World, and they deserve to be snuffed out.

Only through violence can peace be felt by all who comply.

 

[Grim17]

Methinks you don't understand. The left are very tolerant of all those who agree with them. Anyone else? Tolerance is throw out the window.

Oh I understand perfectly, thus my sacasm.

 

[tres borrachos]

Tolerant leftists attacking people because they're wearing a MAGA hat has become all too familiar these days, especially on college campuses. This time it took place at Texas State University and unlike other campuses where police turn a blind eye to these type attacks, police immediately took action.

I find the unhinged anger, the disrespect toward police, and the arrogant self righteousness of those horrible girls very troubling, because these are the people who will one day be in charge of this country and nobody seems to give a damn.

In Boston they beat up people wearing Yankee hats. Actually, all over the country fights break out between fans of the different teams. I guess we have a national crisis?

 

[tres borrachos]

- Nidal Hasan – Ft Hood Shooter: Registered Democrat and Muslim.
– Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter – black liberal/Obama voter
– Seung-Hui Cho – Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.
– James Holmes – the “Dark Knight”/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occu*py guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.
– Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.
– Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas – Leftist Democrat
– Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter – Leftist, Marxist.
– Harris and Klebold, the Columbine Shooters – families registered Democrats and progressive Leftists.
– Bill Ayers, Weather Underground bomber – Leftist Democrat.

I started reading through your list and realized just how badly you are being brainwashed by the right.

Here's one to start and embarrass you and the people who liked your post.

Seung-Hui Cho was a resident alien of Fairfax County, Virginia. He was not a US citizen and therefore could not register to vote. And even if he could, Fairfax County only registers voters. You don't register by party.

Please stop spreading lies. Too many gullible people believe them.

 

[Fishking]

already pointed out what you forgot.

You pointed out something, but nothing I forgot.