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US school shooting: Police investigate Marylan

HowardBThiname said:
It's not about "vindication." It's about what it takes to stop a shooter. We'll never know how many lives were saved today. But we know that somewhere out there -- there's a guy who ran toward the shooting -- instead of away from it and he had to make the very sad decision to shoot a child because he couldn't take a chance of others being killed.
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This:applaud
 
SirGareth said:
No, there is one dead, the shooter, thank goodness.

Yes there is something very odd going on, guns have absoltely nothing to do with it. Children are deciding to commit murder, a gun is a good tool to use to do it but its the decision to kill that is so odd

I was raised in a urban school where nearly every kid owned a rifle from age 12 and a few had pistols too, all legally.

Know one ever heard of a "school shooting" anywhere at anytime.

Kids would never consider murder in those days, we worked our issues out in fist fights if words were not enough. The idea that anyone would become a "murderer" to settle a score was unthinkable.

We need to do some forensics on the psyches of these young male killers and determine what is causing so many of them to accept murder as a cure to their issues.

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We also really need the media and anti-gun factions to pay attention to the underlying causes, because right now, they seemingly don't care, as addressing underlying causes doesn't further their own cause.
 
Lerxst said:
A win? A ****ing win? Nobody "won" in this incident, are you serious? Three kids were shot. This isn't a sport.
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One of them for a very good reason - they were shooting at other students.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Yep, no mention of details about either gun used in that gunfight. That is likely because neither were scary black rifles.
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From the following :

The shooter at Great Mills used a Glock 9-millimeter gun, according to the sheriff’s office

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Less than a month ago, after the Parkland shooting, Hogan proposed spending $125 million next year to enhance security at schools in the state, including by reinforcing doors and installing panic buttons to prevent and react to shooters.

He also suggested $55 million for two ongoing spending initiatives, including $50 million for “school safety grants” that could pay for armed school resource officers, technology and counselors at public schools, and increased funding for the state’s Center for School Safety, which would include money to hire social media experts to scour the internet looking for threats.
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Maryland high school shooting: Two students injured, gunman dead after incident at Great Mills High School - Baltimore Sun
 
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On my local news they said that they had yet to confirm if the school guard shot the shooter.
 
Lursa said:
On my local news they said that they had yet to confirm if the school guard shot the shooter.
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I also read in theWashington Post that it was not confirmed that the shooter was shot by the school guard.

I am still searching for updates.
 
trixare4kids said:
If you weren't arguing semantics then it appears you don't know the definition of a mass shooting; four or more victims.
Now did the school guard prevent that or not?
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4 or more not including the shooter/s

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Lerxst said:
I owned that I was mistaken and retracted my comment. The guard did prevent a "mass shooting" according to the commonly held body count of four or more.

So only three kids were shot, not four. My issue is not on a term (but apparently it's critically important to those who want to leverage a low student body count as a political win), it's on this idea that three students were shot and that the right is all but celebrating their chance to use the phrase "good guy with a gun prevents mass shooting." It's repugnant.
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2 were shot not 3. The 3rd was the shooter

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Lerxst said:
Apparently you still haven't fixed your reading comprehension defect.

I'm thrilled nobody died, you simple jackass. You are the one calling it a "win."

This is apparently a political competition in your mind.
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Where you in the parkland threads criticizing people for politicizing that shooting. I must of missed those posts because i dont recall seeing any from you.

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ludin said:
i am all for censoring free speech
denying due process and allowing the police to storm in any house
they want as long as it keeps people safe.

you might want to reconsider your logic of limiting the rights of people.

what other rights can we just get rid of as long as it keeps people safe?

that is the flip side of freedom. you accept certain risks with that freedom.
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Limits on freedoms have always been accepted. Free speech is limited in cases where the public safety would be jeopardized (you can't yell fire in a crowded theater). Tight restrictions have been placed on ownership of full automatic weapons since the 1930's, and I don't see that one iota of freedom has been lost to the general society, and on the other hand, there are fewer cases where the police show up and are outgunned, which was the case in the 1920's. That is common sense gun control that has worked well for 80 years, and it did not lead to confiscation of guns. That is NRA fear mongering.
 
JoeTrumps said:
Guard took down assailant, which goes against the left's argument about parkland shooting.
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Most "left" are arguing that properly training police officers at the school is part of the solution. The argument that many of the left are saying that has so many of you ultra right wing conspiracy nuts going crazy is that more guns other than the resource officer(s) are not needed. It would seem that an armed officer who took action was sufficient to limit the damages.
 
Lerxst said:
A sociopathic murderer isn't going to just not shoot up a school because they read about other school shooters getting taken out by SRO's.

These people rarely have a post-event plan in place other than to die, by police gunfire or by their own hand, as this is how most mass shootings eventually end. Relatively few school shooters live to face trial. Just like increased police patrols show no meaningful impact on murder rates, armed security doesn't usually deter a person dead set on shooting up their school. Their motivation to exact revenge or lash out at those students and/or teachers is an overriding motivation that all but mitigates their fear of consequences for committing the crime. Individuals who decide to attack a school do it deliberately, it's almost always related to an issue with someone some group specific at the school they shoot up. It's not a random process.
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It's like hardened sociopathic murderers just flaunt the law, or something! There should be a law against that!
 
What the media should be doing right now is giving the security cop his 15minutes of fame. He should be praised as a hero and everyone in america should know his name. Just a hunch that its not gonna happen.

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NIMBY said:
David Dennison is the first 'president' who should not be held accountable for anything that happens on his watch.

We already know how scurrilous gops would have acted towards a Democratic President
if anything Dennison has done would have happened under BHO or WJC ...
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Bathhouse barry beat him to that honor

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Lursa said:
Dont know much of the story yet but at least this school guard did his job....well done!

Who are these ****ed up little monsters who are coming out of the woodwork? What is creating these dangerous losers?

And they are just feeding off of each other now.
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Well, as morbid as it sounds, this case might be a lesson to the next one. I'm guessing this little monster wasn't expecting a swift response based on what he gleaned from Parkland.
 
trouble13 said:
What the media should be doing right now is giving the security cop his 15minutes of fame. He should be praised as a hero and everyone in america should know his name. Kust a hunch that its not gonna happen.

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Cameron is praising the officer as a hero. His last name is Gaskill, so yes we know it.
From a CNN article :
Cameron said he was not sure if Gaskill's bullet hit the suspect, but he praised the officer's quick response to the situation.
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From the Washington Post article:

The shooter and the two students were rushed to local hospitals in critical condition. The shooter, who was not identified, was pronounced dead at 10:41 a.m., Cameron said.
“On this day, we realized our worst nightmare,” Cameron said. “Our children were attacked in a bastion of safety...The notion that it can’t happen here is no longer a notion.”
It was not immediately clear if the school resource officer’s round struck the shooter, Cameron said. The school resource officer was not injured, the sheriff said.

Cameron said there was “no question” the situation would have been worse if the SRO had not engaged the shooter.
Cameron said they are still investigating a motive and it’s unclear whether the shooter knew the students who were shot.
“In my mind, it’s a school shooting in the classical sense, but the investigation will have to determine if there was any connection between the shooter and the victims,” Cameron said.
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trouble13 said:
Bathhouse barry beat him to that honor

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Whatabout ... the ongoing goparty of boogiemen Lee Atwater, Trickie Dickie, and Joe McCarthy
 
minnie616 said:
And from a 12:15 Washington Post article:

So tragic ...

Perhaps we will learn more in more recent article.
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With all due respect to those quoted, a school is in no way a "bastion of safety". There is literally nothing in that school, other than the occasional resource officer, that makes a child "safe". There is little to no oversight of the children inside, let alone outside of the school, and violence happens constantly. "Bastion of Safety" is pure illusion.
 
apdst said:
Who else could have shot him? :lamo
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The media is just being responsible and doing its do diligence to make sure. They dont want to mislead anyone or use an anyomous source without confirmation of the facts

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Kreton said:
Most "left" are arguing that properly training police officers at the school is part of the solution.
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yes, I'm sure in your made up world they are doing that.

Here in the real world they spend 50% of their time demanding more gun control and the other 50% calling the NRA child killers with blood on their hands. You can tune into CNN whenever the issue comes up and tell me I'm wrong, but we both know I'm not.
 
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