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Trump ties coronavirus decisions to personal grievances

ldsrptcvt said:
good god; can't you see this is an extraordinary situation which can't be faced by individual states. If one state makes a bad decision, the virus escapes. What are you going to do - figure out which states are dumber and build walls around them to protect the rest of us? This is a NATIONAL crisis. If we were at war would each state decide whether or not it should support the cause and if not withhold citizens from the armed forces?
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What socialist country do you live in?? You don't understand that the only way the President can get involved in state and local issues is by declaring a National Emergency approved by Congress. Please take a civics course
 
ldsrptcvt said:
Oh, so every week or so, it is up to each state to call in and ask if there are any pandemics on the way
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My suggestion would be for state and local governments to take their state and local responsibility issues seriously and pay attention to world affairs. One call would be enough but as usual all you want to do is place blame on the President for an issue that started in China and was all over the news for weeks before a pandemic was declared.
 
ldsrptcvt said:
good god; can't you see this is an extraordinary situation which can't be faced by individual states. If one state makes a bad decision, the virus escapes. What are you going to do - figure out which states are dumber and build walls around them to protect the rest of us? This is a NATIONAL crisis. If we were at war would each state decide whether or not it should support the cause and if not withhold citizens from the armed forces?
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How about 50 governors bidding against each other for PPE driving the price sky-high.

It's not a local crisis, it's a nationwide crisis, if only we had someone who was capable of leading a country.

Let's face it, cultists just aren't that bright.
 
BWG said:
How about 50 governors bidding against each other for PPE driving the price sky-high.

It's not a local crisis, it's a nationwide crisis, if only we had someone who was capable of leading a country.

Let's face it, cultists just aren't that bright.
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How about any Governor taking care of their own citizens instead of waiting for a bureaucrat in D.C. to do it!! Has nothing to do with competition but everything to do with the responsibilities of leadership. You people certainly don't have a problem when states do things like promote sanctuary cities but not when the Federal Gov't steps in and tries to halt them. States' rights and responsibilities only exist on issues that you support, that is typical liberalism
 
Conservative said:
How about any Governor taking care of their own citizens instead of waiting for a bureaucrat in D.C. to do it!! Has nothing to do with competition but everything to do with the responsibilities of leadership. You people certainly don't have a problem when states do things like promote sanctuary cities but not when the Federal Gov't steps in and tries to halt them. States' rights and responsibilities only exist on issues that you support, that is typical liberalism
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Trump forced GM to make the masks...can you show me where any single governor could do that? This is a national emergency, not a single state one..it is his responsibility to deal with and he cannot handle this responsibility...hell he doesn't even know how to listen to his experts even...if he would learn and discover he doesn't know everything and is not an expert on everything...he might have some success.
 
ClaraD said:
Trump forced GM to make the masks...can you show me where any single governor could do that? This is a national emergency, not a single state one..it is his responsibility to deal with and he cannot handle this responsibility...hell he doesn't even know how to listen to his experts even...if he would learn and discover he doesn't know everything and is not an expert on everything...he might have some success.
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Would be happy to but you wouldn't listen, to you it is all about Trump and never about a specific governor taking Action. Last I checked GM was in Michigan! you cannot seem to grasp the reality that governors have the right to declare state emergencies and force businesses to do with Trump did AFTER the pandemic was declared. You cannot seem to handle the responsibility of learning the roles of the state, local and federal governments.
 
marke said:
You would think democrat morons would stop attacking Trump during this crisis long enough to encourage him to work together for a common solution for the common good. People need to stop using this virus as a club to beat their political opponents or to gain points in the coming election.
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He comes on TV on a daily basis, under the guise of a coronavirus update, and he attacks democrats, the media, and governors. He then proceeds to spew nonsense like suggesting that masks are making their way onto the black market after being delivered to hospitals (with absolutely no evidence whatsoever) that his alleged advisors have to immediately contradict and correct.

This is the Trump MO. Say something outrageous because it gets us to stop thinking about something he doesn't want us to think about. He's been doing this since the beginning of the 2016 campaign.

You're suggesting that Trump is not working for the common good BECAUSE people are attacking him.

A bipartisan relief bill was hammered out and passed. Yet, you think Trump was right in excluding democrats from the signing.

He is now contradicting himself almost on a daily basis. And according to you folks, he is correct every time he opens his mouth. That is really the infuriating thing to the rest of us. No matter how much he lies, attacks, suggests baseless conspiracies, is contradicted by his own people, or is shown to be outright demonstrably wrong, you defend Trump.

Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone and not lose any votes. He was talking about you. You will never hold him accountable for anything.
 
Conservative said:
Another liberal newbie here, you do realize that there is a waiver part of this law that forces food stamp recipients to work??? You have a problem with the gov't putting strings on a food stamp program that requires people to work?? Do you just read headlines and not the complete article?
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what are you saying? During this pandemic where most businesses are closed you expect food stamp recipients to work? How?
 
Conservative said:
Here we go again, another liberal out of touch with reality and context, now run away and play in traffic. Context shows that the jobs created during the Obama term were PARTTIME JOBS. do you know the difference between a full time and part time job??

Stunning loyalty and ignorance of the Obama record. Any idea what the U-6 unemployment rate is or any idea what part time jobs for economic reasons are and how they and discouraged workers affect the employment numbers?? Didn't think so, stop making a fool of yourself based upon issues you don't understand
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Forget about Obama - look at the big picture. Trump doesn't come CLOSE to Roosevelt, Reagan of Clinton in either increased jobs or percentage job growth. What the *** is he bragging about?
 
Conservative said:
What socialist country do you live in?? You don't understand that the only way the President can get involved in state and local issues is by declaring a National Emergency approved by Congress. Please take a civics course
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When the President states that the country is at war, that pretty much constitutes a national emergency. He loves being touted as a "War Time President", doesn't he? If he wants the glory, he's got to step up to the plate and truly act the part.
 
Conservative said:
My suggestion would be for state and local governments to take their state and local responsibility issues seriously and pay attention to world affairs. One call would be enough but as usual all you want to do is place blame on the President for an issue that started in China and was all over the news for weeks before a pandemic was declared.
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It the president blows it off, which he did for weeks, why wouldn't the governors?
 
Conservative said:
How about any Governor taking care of their own citizens instead of waiting for a bureaucrat in D.C. to do it!! Has nothing to do with competition but everything to do with the responsibilities of leadership. You people certainly don't have a problem when states do things like promote sanctuary cities but not when the Federal Gov't steps in and tries to halt them. States' rights and responsibilities only exist on issues that you support, that is typical liberalism
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Trump is treating this pandemic as a business problem. He thinks it's good capitalism for states to compete for emergency resources. Dog-eat-dog to the death.
 
Conservative said:
Would be happy to but you wouldn't listen, to you it is all about Trump and never about a specific governor taking Action. Last I checked GM was in Michigan! you cannot seem to grasp the reality that governors have the right to declare state emergencies and force businesses to do with Trump did AFTER the pandemic was declared. You cannot seem to handle the responsibility of learning the roles of the state, local and federal governments.
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Show me where the DPA allows governors to unilaterally use it.
 
ldsrptcvt said:
It the president blows it off, which he did for weeks, why wouldn't the governors?
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I don't see any reason to continue this discussion with you as placing blame doesn't solve the current problem nor is it constructive, there will be time for that after the crisis ends and rather than fund solar energy, the arts, bail out unions, I prefer the conservative approach which is why I will continue to support Trump. All this anger of the stimulus is irrelevant as both parties support the stimulus, the difference is where the stimulus money goes, to producers, businesses, private sector and not takers like the Unions
 
ldsrptcvt said:
but no benefits i.e. no food
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No work not food, that is the way it works in the real world. In this crisis however there are waivers which you want to ignore. Why is it not the individuals responsibility to ask for them?
 
ldsrptcvt said:
Show me where the DPA allows governors to unilaterally use it.
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The Defense Production Act is Federal power, you really have no understanding what your state gov't can and cannot do. they can set their own minimum wage, they can set their own taxes, they can put enough pressure on private businesses to do whatever it is they want but better yet they have term limits which if you don't like your state gov't work to change it or move to a state more to your liking
 
Conservative said:
The Defense Production Act is Federal power, you really have no understanding what your state gov't can and cannot do. they can set their own minimum wage, they can set their own taxes, they can put enough pressure on private businesses to do whatever it is they want but better yet they have term limits which if you don't like your state gov't work to change it or move to a state more to your liking
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Show me where in the Defense Production Act governors have unilateral powers
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Conservative said:
The Defense Production Act is Federal power, you really have no understanding what your state gov't can and cannot do. they can set their own minimum wage, they can set their own taxes, they can put enough pressure on private businesses to do whatever it is they want but better yet they have term limits which if you don't like your state gov't work to change it or move to a state more to your liking
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governors cannot order agencies to produce certain goods. They have zero power over GM...however, Trump holds the power to use the DPA...governors do not.
 
ClaraD said:
governors cannot order agencies to produce certain goods. They have zero power over GM...however, Trump holds the power to use the DPA...governors do not.
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Governors and state legislatures can and do make businesses do what they want, i.e. minimum wage, taxes, permits. Not sure where you got your education but this is embarrassing
 
Conservative said:
Under the DPA?? They don't under state and local laws they do. This is ridiculous, answer the damn question, what purpose does it serve during this crisis to spend 24/7 blaming the President, how does that solve the crisis?
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well you'll have to show me the relevant documents; I can't believe that if an epidemic arose in East Hartford CT, the mayor could order Pratt & Whitney to re-tool and make ventilators for the city.
 
ldsrptcvt said:
well you'll have to show me the relevant documents; I can't believe that if an epidemic arose in East Hartford CT, the mayor could order Pratt & Whitney to re-tool and make ventilators for the city.
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I don't have to show you anything as you aren't going to buy anything that refutes your opinions or ideology. Placing blame on the President doesn't solve the crisis today and that is what he is trying to do and 60% support him. Nothing he does or says is going to change your mind. there will be plenty of time to assess blame when this is over, now is not that time as it serves no purpose

Poll says 60 percent of Americans Approve of Trump’s handling of Coronavirus | 2020-03-30 | Security Magazine
 
Conservative said:
Under the DPA?? They don't under state and local laws they do. This is ridiculous, answer the damn question, what purpose does it serve during this crisis to spend 24/7 blaming the President, how does that solve the crisis?
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