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Trump Repeatedly Pressed Ukraine President to Investigate Biden's Son

How do you say "A REPEAT of Criminal Habit" of:
The same collusive manipulation tactics used in 2015-2016 by Trump Operatives with Russia, is again being used by Trump with Ukraine... Engaging in the solicitations of Foreign Intervention in our Election Systems Process.
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Truth always exposes its self as Truth... as criminal(s) always resort use the tactics they think worked before, they will without hesitation use it again.

Now, the public should know, at least those who think clearly... it identifies why there were so many Russian Interactions with SO MANY people in the Trump Campaign Organizations... Now... we see the same process being used again... This points its seeking to use Ukraine... but as time moves along we will find the other Foreign Governments that is being pursued for usage by the Trump Organizations.

Trump's habit patters of malice is well documented. he fleeced "banks repeatedly", he "filed bankruptcies repeatedly", "he stiff contractors repeatedly", and he is incessant in filing "Try to cover his arse Lawsuits"...

America has a "THUG IN THE WHITE HOUSE"... a Global Mobster... from the system of global money washing, now to Globally Selling Policy for Mob like Pressure and Hit Game Tactics of a Political Process.

The Only reason Trump is not Impeached and Jailed, is because of his Republican Enablers... But, be not dismayed... Truth has always won the day in Life through its exposure and its time always comes to present itself as Truth. Trump's time is coming and he knows it... The only cover he has not is a Republican Congress and Republican Cult Members.

But again, the INTEGRITY of America is far stronger than any man or political group of men... When the Truth starts to flow, it will flow with information of malice that has been engaged on a scale that only the "Cult Followers will try to deny". The American people who respect American Democracy and Respect the Governance Systems of America will not be shocked, because no matter what type of 'spin game that is played" those who have followed the incessant string of malice will know for sure each thing that is to come in exposure is what they have said all along.

The Confederacy Styled Agenda will meet its "crash and burn"... and many of the current cult followers of this madness will try to deflect, deny and fight against, and have no shame when they are exposed in and of their endorsement complicity in this "Mob Styled Assault Upon American Democracy, American Governance and the Integrity of Our American Nation.

Every element of points exposed in Mueller's Report will be clear... and no DOJ led by Trump Capo's such as Burr can push any means to hide or try and cover up.

The law will be changed where "Sitting President's" can be Indicated, Removed from Office and Jailed.

The clarity of "Obstruction of Justice" will be clarified to be more efficient in how its stands to denote and acts when such vile is engaged by any Administration, Congress and Presidents.

We've seen other countries rise and stand for dignity in their support of their National Integrity, by "Charging- Removing and Jailing" Ex-Presidents". If America does not demonstrate the same respect of and for "integrity"; it will diminish the respect of our office of the Presidency on a Global Level.

In America... we will have every means to extend those charges to "enablers within congress" if we expect to have any future respect for the "institution of congress and the integrity as being a principle element that is mandated for its members".
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(Any other time in earlier American history, not only the President but the enablers would be indicated for the conspiracy to under-mind the governance, undermine and usurp the separation of powers and undermine cabinet appointed position by their disregard to honor their oath). We are at a point where change is and will come to be... where these acts of an administration can and will charge and indite those who seek to damage and destroy America"s Governing Integrity. )
 
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roguenuke said:
Ukrainian law would be all that mattered in the Ukraine. He couldn't be prosecuted by Ukrainians for something under US law.To prosecute under US law, Trump would have needed to involve the DOJ to start an investigation. Trumps person lawyer would still have absolutely no business being involved with something like that.

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What the Adorables dont understand is that this is an internal Ukranian matter. The Ukrainian prosecuter says the Bidens in the clear.

No do overs, witch hunt!!

Sucks know they got to swallow some of your own retoric eh ?:lamo
 
W_Heisenberg said:
I'm sorry but you should probably improve your understanding of the Constitution before posting comments about it:

The fact that the President has a duty to protect the office of the President doesn't mean the President can do whatever he wants. There are limitations on the power of the executive branch. This is outlined in the Constitution.
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Take your own advice, and the advice I offered.
 
The abuse Trump has done to the "Principle of Sanctions"... should invoke A NEW PROCESS.. where "ANY" Sanction of "ANY" Nation by "ANY" Nation should never again be enacted by the principles and process of Imperialist Conduct ever again; it should never be tolerated by the United Nations.

The world is now seeing the abuse in a light that before was quite dim... now its at a highly intensified glow... and the reverberating damages it is causing to the entire world of nations... is something... nations will collectively not tolerate in the near future.

The World has no obligation to submit itself unto the dictates of America, or unto the Dictates of any other single Nation. Nor should the world be subjected to the coercive threats by America... trying to extract by demand, that it be allowed to promote sanctions that are of a damaging impact upon the world of nation, simply because it wants to have its way, at the expense of the world of nation.

The change is coming .....
 
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The “massive bribery scheme” Giuliani is referring to has to do with Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, who held a directorship with a Ukrainian natural gas company called Burisma Holdings in 2014. At one point, Hunter was making $50,000 a month from Burisma.

Burisma was owned by Mykola Zlochevsky, a minister who went into exile after a popular revolution removed President Viktor F. Yanukovych. With Yanukovych gone, Zlochevsky faced numerous corruption investigations involving Burisma Holdings.

In 2015, Ukraine appointed Viktor Shokin as their new prosecutor. His removal in 2016 is at the center of the bribery allegations. Biden freely admitted to his role in having Shokin removed in during an event sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations in 2018. Shokin was totally corrupt.

“I remember going over (to Ukraine), convincing our team … that we should be providing for loan guarantees. … And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from (then Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko) and from (then-Prime Minister Arseniy) Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor (Shokin). And they didn’t…” he said. The Ukraine government, namely Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk that they would prosecute Shokin for blatant corruption. Why would the US guarantee a billion dollar loan to a government rife with corruption and to individuals who would steal it all and not use it for what it was intended for --- to fight Russia.

Viktor Shokin had much bigger issues than the corruption case against Mykola Zlochevsky. Almost immediately after he was appointed, he started to cause almost irreparable harm to Ukraine’s legal system. Almost exactly what Trump is doing to our legal system, corrupting it.

For starters, Shokin failed to prosecute any prominent members of the Yanukovych regime or anybody in the current government. He constantly blocked reform to Ukraine’s broken legal system. He was in charge of implementing the 2014 law on prosecution which the European Union had asked Ukraine to do for years.

He was the largest obstacle to judicial reform in Ukraine. It wasn’t just Joe Biden calling for his ouster, it was the United States government and the European Union.
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Right. So Biden was blackmailing a foreign country to stop it from investigating his son.
 
ocean515 said:
Right. So Biden was blackmailing a foreign country to stop it from investigating his son.
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Not proven. Want to prove that, provide evidence that the only reason the money was threatened to be withheld was to benefit Bidens son. That there couldn't have been more legitimate purpose, such as international political pressure to oust that particular prosecutor.

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roguenuke said:
Not proven. Want to prove that, provide evidence that the only reason the money was threatened to be withheld was to benefit Bidens son. That there couldn't have been more legitimate purpose, such as international political pressure to oust that particular prosecutor.

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The proof is from Biden's own mouth.



Not interested in the fake stories and spin the liberal media and their trained seals are trying to excuse the blackmail.
 
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Acadia said:
Not exactly. There might be classified information contained within. Not everything should or will be made public because once again, a failed coup attempted to bring Trump down.
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Congress has the right to see the transcripts. Send it to the Gang of 8. If it's not given then the reporting is true.
 
ocean515 said:
The proof is from Biden's own mouth.



Not interested in the fake stories and spin the liberal media and their trained seals are trying to excuse the blackmail.
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Nope. That only proves that they threatened to withhold the aide if the prosecutor wasn't fired, not why the prosecutor was fired.

This is like claiming a person running from the cops is only being harassed because of their race, rather than objectively looking at what other factors could be or were involved in the situation, which have been presented.

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apdst said:
Unless they contain sensitive information. We know Congress can't be trusted not to leak the information.
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If nothing untoward occurred there's no problem.
 
roguenuke said:
Nope. That only proves that they threatened to withhold the aide if the prosecutor wasn't fired, not why the prosecutor was fired.

This is like claiming a person running from the cops is only being harassed because of their race, rather than objectively looking at what other factors could be or were involved in the situation, which have been presented.

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LOL

Yep.

Stop investigating my son, or I won't give you the $1 billion. Pretty clear. In fact, crystal.

I do enjoy the attempted spin though.

It's getting desperate, quite telling, and rather humorous.
 
Parrish said:
Congress has the right to see the transcripts. Send it to the Gang of 8. If it's not given then the reporting is true.
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Um, no, if it's not given it doesn't become Schrodinger's cat. It's just...not given.

I support the transcript being released as fully as possible to the public. I'm confident it won't hurt Trump.
 
Republican response are why Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave.... because he knew these minion's would claim he was not there, even when there would be 1000's of images of him doing it on peoples cell phones and his fingerprints on the gun and the gun was sold to him in his own name.

Now, I don't think many cult leaders outside of Jim Jones and Marshall Applewhite, Hitler,and Musolloni has lead so many to be so insanely stupidly devoted.
 
ocean515 said:
LOL. Yep. Stop investigating my son, or I won't give you the $1 billion. Pretty clear. In fact, crystal. I do enjoy the attempted spin though.
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There's nothing being spinned:

Trump and Giuliani’s Quest for Fake Ukraine "Dirt” on Biden: An Explainer - Just Security

It's getting desperate, quite telling, and rather humorous.
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Yes, it is getting desperate, quite telling, but it was never humorous. As the walls close in on Trump he keeps trying to tell people to look somewhere else.
 
RealityNow said:
Republican response are why Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave.... because he knew these minion's would claim he was not there, even when there would be 1000's of images of him doing it on peoples cell phones and his fingerprints on the gun and the gun was sold to him in his own name.

Now, I don't think many cult's outside of Jim Jones has lead so many to be so insanely stupidly devoted.
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Republicans laugh at the stupidity of thinking Trump was serious. Just like his off-the-cuff joke about Hillary's emails.
Trump haters either don't get sarcasm and joking around, or they do and pretend they don't.
 
Acadia said:
Republicans laugh at the stupidity of thinking Trump was serious. Just like his off-the-cuff joke about Hillary's emails.
Trump haters either don't get sarcasm and joking around, or they do and pretend they don't.
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you missed the point... joke or no joke... its a symbolic way of saying "the people are blindly devoted"... you can laugh, but its about as much a joke as him saying "he is the only one who can fix American", and him saying "He is smarter than All Our Military Generals".... and proceeding destroy to the Administrative Cabinet with musical chairs games, Destroying the Diplomatic Corp, all while acting as a dictator via the use of Twitter, to undermine, over-ride and insult Cabinet Officials and Military Leaders....

Too bad... Republican don't see how what they call a Joke... is telling them a message they try to laugh off...
 
W_Heisenberg said:
He just admitted to an impeachable offense.

It doesn't appear the Republicans in the Senate will turn on him for this or for his acts of obstruction. But if there was a quid pro quo, they only need 20 of 53 Republican Senators to get to 2/3rds for an impeachment conviction.
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Why would you think talking about Biden is an impeachable offense? Don't you think world leaders should be able to discuss things like corruption?

I wonder...would it bother you if Trump and UK's Johnson discussed the actions of the Obama administration in regard to Papadoupolus? Would you consider that an impeachable offense?
 
ocean515 said:
Take your own advice, and the advice I offered.
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Your argument doesn't make any sense. Scratch that. Your assertion doesn't make any logical sense. You're too lazy to even write an argument.

Come at me. What's your argument? On what basis are you making this crazy assertion of yours and why do you think it extends to include impeachable offenses?
 
RealityNow said:
you missed the point... joke or no joke... its a symbolic way of saying "the people are blindly devoted"... you can laugh, but its about as much a joke as him saying "he is the only one who can fix American", and him saying "He is smarter than All Our Military Generals".... and proceeding destroy to the Administrative Cabinet with musical chairs games, Destroying the Diplomatic Corp, all while acting as a dictator via the use of Twitter, to undermine, over-ride and insult Cabinet Officials and Military Leaders....

Too bad... Republican don't see how what they call a Joke... is telling them a message they try to laugh off...
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Very good for recognizing symbolism. Hillary Clinton has the same loyalty from her base. Your next Democrat candidate will, too.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
Your argument doesn't make any sense. Scratch that. Your assertion doesn't make any logical sense. You're too lazy to even write an argument.

Come at me. What's your argument? On what basis are you making this crazy assertion of yours and why do you think it extends to include impeachable offenses?
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Too lazy?

I've explained the duty of the President. The President is not only a person, but a symbol of the Nation. Throughout history, that symbol has and will continue to be protected.

It's the duty of the President to do that.

This duty is detailed in the Constitution, and has been established through centuries of precedent.

All you have done is make a claim based on nothing but what is likely your biased opinion.

Explain to me how a President is not charged with protecting the sanctity and stature of the office.
 
SLC said:
What if pink unicorns pooped candy canes. Why not deal in facts and not. fantasy.
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Do you think a foreign government recording a call with the President of the United States is fantasy?
 
apdst said:
It would be a nothingburger, just like it is now.
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But it isn't a nothingburger to Trump. He hates it because it is big news that is bad for him, regardless of whether or not it was criminal behavior. Do you think Trump would want this news spreading a few weeks before the election? What do you think he would do to prevent it from getting out?
 
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