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Trump Has Spent $115 Million on Golf Trips - Or 287 Years of Presidential Salary

jonny5 said:
Thats everyone. You would be hard pressed to find someone on this forum or in politics who has not flipped on this topic.
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Flipped? On playing golf?
 
uptower said:
Firstly the argument that his places are potentially cheaper is ludicrous - the money should not be going to his businesses, period. I'm sure government is capable of shopping around. Secondly it's the first I've heard he offered to host G7 free of charge; he would actually lose money because the place still costs plenty to run. Even if he did, the future potential to promote his business as the one-time site of a summit violates the clause because he'd still profit from it eventually. In any case it's hard to imagine Trump doing anything for free. Nor as he cuts taxes for the rich and wastes money on vanity projects while blowing out the deficit, does he seem capable of 'saving money for the country'.
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Out of curiosity, Do you think there is a person on the planet who makes the kind of decision placing conventions or gatherings of any type that require a property on the scale of Doral that has never heard of Trump?

What planet are you from?

Here are the exact words from Trump on Twitter regarding providing Doral at no cost:

Doral in Miami would have been the best place to hold the G-7, and free, but too much heat from the Do Nothing Radical Left Democrats & their Partner, the Fake News Media! I’m surprised that they allow me to give up my $400,000 Plus Presidential Salary! We’ll find someplace else!
9:17 AM · Oct 21, 2019·Twitter for iPhone






I think it's funny that he refers to his salary as "$400,000 Plus". He probably doesn't even know what it is he is supposed to be getting paid. Doesn't know. Doesn't care. ;)
 
JMR said:
Why would I answer your question which was only a deflection from an actual statement about the topic. Can you please point out how Ocean's supposed defense of Trump's golf weekends includes the question of the cost actually being paid to the president for the use of his own privately held properties?

I understand that any deflection to "but Obama" indicates you have no idea.
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The problem with you is that you pose a question that can't be answered, a silly debate parlor trick. My question was sarcasm to point out your disingenuousness, which you have continued till now. Please explain how information for these Trump expenses would be obtained. I doubt you can, because you know how stupid that is. You couldn't answer the same question about Obama when I posed it, because you've known this all along. You're not impressive at all.
 
code1211 said:
Can you link to the article detailing your success in teaching dogs to read?
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Just as well as you can link to your moronic and racist claims. Come on, hit us with an alt right meme. Maybe an Obama cartoon? You know you wanna. Tell us about how Obama was lazy and showy. Tell us about affirmative action.
 
code1211 said:
Taking the last point first, GDP is at the highest level it has ever been at.

Arrests of illegals crossing the Southern Border are right now at the lowest point since May earlier this year and are down 70% since that month's report.

This is the result the negotiations conducted by Trump and his team with Mexico and the Central American Countries and getting real assistance in the form of border and military assistance as needed.

Incidentally, it's difficult to go through any day without hearing about something happening with international relations that are not the direct result of successful negotiations with Trump and some foreign power.

Regarding the first point, how many buildings are labeled with YOUR name?



Before Trump became President, Forbes estimated his wealth at more than $3 Billion. How much more will he need to amass before he reaches "Somerville" money?
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A quick search found that several buildings have removed the Trump name owing to its detrimental connotations. Yes, Forbes estimated his wealth to be more than $3billion, yet in 2011, he lost a defamation lawsuit against a writer who had written that Trump's personal wealth was in the range of $150-$200 million. Trump either couldn't, or refused to, provide the court with documentation showing his wealth
 
American said:
The problem with you is that you pose a question that can't be answered, a silly debate parlor trick. My question was sarcasm to point out your disingenuousness, which you have continued till now. Please explain how information for these Trump expenses would be obtained. I doubt you can, because you know how stupid that is. You couldn't answer the same question about Obama when I posed it, because you've known this all along. You're not impressive at all.
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"The problem with you" is that you really believe it cannot be determined HOW MUCH money is spent on Trump's endless golf excursions and conclude that a good idea would be to post a sarcastic question followed by a personal attack.

I am sure the executive branch has quite a good accountant who details the expenses of the President's travels, and who the expenses are paid to. MY point which Trump supporters hate to consider, is that besides accruing record expenses, Trump only visits his own properties. Staff and Secret Service need to be fed and sheltered at those properties. Who do you think foots the bill for that?

I'll let you know if and when I ever need YOU to be impressed. :golf
 
ecofarm said:
Just as well as you can link to your moronic and racist claims. Come on, hit us with an alt right meme. Maybe an Obama cartoon? You know you wanna. Tell us about how Obama was lazy and showy. Tell us about affirmative action.
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Like almost any other racist, you see everything only through the prism of race.

That must make life difficult for you.

You have my sympathy.
 
Somerville said:
A quick search found that several buildings have removed the Trump name owing to its detrimental connotations. Yes, Forbes estimated his wealth to be more than $3billion, yet in 2011, he lost a defamation lawsuit against a writer who had written that Trump's personal wealth was in the range of $150-$200 million. Trump either couldn't, or refused to, provide the court with documentation showing his wealth
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In your view of the world, Trump is a penniless beggar with no ability to communicate, convince or convert.

In my view of the world, he's a guy that owns literally hundreds of properties around the world, is a father who has and is raising good kids and who outwitted in series the most devious crooks in the world to win the US Presidential election in 2016.

My view is supported by real world facts. Your view is supported exclusively by lies and hate.

I guess I'll stick with my world view. You are welcome to yours. I won't be needing it or the motivation(s) that supports it for you.
 
code1211 said:
Like almost any other racist, you see everything only through the prism of race.

That must make life difficult for you.

You have my sympathy.
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I bet you're one of those guys that cries about accusations of racism. I bet you're all, "everyone calls me a racist for no reason. I'm such a victim!"


Who are the racists that don't see everything through "the prism of race"? Your compound buddies? Whom are you promoting there? Now, I know you can't answer that. Your answer is "The Aryan Brotherhood. They're racist but because of facts." And you don't have the guts to do it. So you're gonna keep it shut.
 
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ecofarm said:
I bet you're one of those guys that cries about accusations of racism. I bet you're all, "everyone calls me a racist for no reason. I'm such a victim!"


Just curious... Who are the racists that don't see everything through "the prism of race"? Your compound buddies?
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As far as I can see in this forum, people like you are the only ones that ever bring up the idea of racism in relation to topics that have no tangent relation to the topic.

As a racist, you may not be aware of your fixation with this topic.

An alcoholic sees all things in relation to that addiction, salespeople see all things in relation to how they can make the next sale. You see all things in relation to race. It's a problem for you.

If you are aware of this affliction, you can begin to do something about it. I'm only trying to help you.

Any steps taken toward normalcy are yours to initiate and continue.
 
code1211 said:
As far as I can see in this forum, people like you are the only ones that ever bring up the idea of racism in relation to topics that have no tangent relation to the topic.

As a racist, you may not be aware of your fixation with this topic.

An alcoholic sees all things in relation to that addiction, salespeople see all things in relation to how they can make the next sale. You see all things in relation to race. It's a problem for you.

If you are aware of this affliction, you can begin to do something about it. I'm only trying to help you.

Any steps taken toward normalcy are yours to initiate and continue.
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You're claiming some racists are rational. You're claiming everyone else is a "bad racist" as opposed to a "good racist". You're all but a lunatic screaming racial slurs on the corner. What do you think your posts look like?
 
ecofarm said:
You're claiming some racists are rational. You're claiming everyone else is a "bad racist" as opposed to a "good racist". You're all but a lunatic screaming racial slurs on the corner. What do you think your posts look like?
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Your interpretation is unrelated to my post.
 
code1211 said:
Your interpretation is unrelated to my post.
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Who are the "good racists", the ones that don't see everything through the "prism of race"?

Tell us.

You made the qualification. Now have the balls to specify. Tell us about your buddies.
 
ecofarm said:
Who are the "good racists", the ones that don't see everything through the "prism of race"?

Tell us.

You made the qualification. Now have the balls to specify. Tell us about your buddies.
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"Good racists"?

Where did THAT come from?

You're raving and making irrational claims unrelated to anything real.
 
code1211 said:
"Good racists"?

Where did THAT come from?

You're raving and making irrational claims unrelated to anything real.
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I understand you wanting to disown your support of racists, but your claim is clear:

code1211 said:
Like almost any other racist, you see everything only through the prism of race.

That must make life difficult for you.

You have my sympathy.
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So.

Who are the "good racists"? Who are the ones that operate on "facts" and not "prism"?

We know what you meant. That's a racist hedge and everyone can see it.

We await your explanation. Which will not happen because you don't have what it takes to come out.
 
ecofarm said:
I understand you wanting to disown your support of racists, but your claim is clear:




So.

Who are the "good racists"? Who are the ones that operate on "facts" and not "prism"?

We know what you meant.
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"Almost any other" and "good" are synonyms for you?

You understanding of English, qualitative statements, rationality or all of the above need significant help.
 
code1211 said:
"Almost any other" and "good" are synonyms for you?

You understanding of English, qualitative statements, rationality or all of the above need significant help.
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Wow, no explanation? Big surprise.

Everyone can see it was a racist hedge. You were protecting your buddies. Be a man and admit it.
 
ecofarm said:
Wow, no explanation? Big surprise.

Everyone can see it was a racist hedge. You were protecting your buddies. Be a man and admit it.
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I have no idea how to communicate with you.

is there another language that you prefer?
 
code1211 said:
I have no idea how to communicate with you.

is there another language that you prefer?
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Who are the racists that do not see through a prism of race?
 
ecofarm said:
Who are the racists that do not see through a prism of race?
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Communication/language of fact does not compute with this poster. You'll have to find another way, as the poster asks.
 
bluesmoke said:
Communication/language of fact does not compute with this poster. You'll have to find another way, as the poster asks.
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The "do you speak English" wasn't a shocker. And neither is the silence in response to my question. What can he do now? Claim his qualification was in error? Okay, why the error. How does that happen? Does he come up with an example? We all know what he thinks that is, and there's no ****ing way he presents them.

So... What happens?

Having never painted myself into such a moronic corner, I honestly don't know. What would you do, if you can imagine?
 
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