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Thoughts on God and Gays! [W: 472]

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Elvira said:
Prove them wrong...do your own research.
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I didn't claim they were wrong, I claimed they were fringe. Alex Jones can be right but that didn't mean he isn't fringe.
P..I would trust their site over any other.
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Of course you do you are a JW. If you were evangelizing to other JWs that would probably be just right. But in the context of this discussion you aren't.

..they research and research again to make sure they put up accurate information always...
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As long as it doesn't conflict with JW dogma.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
I didn't claim they were wrong, I claimed they were fringe. Alex Jones can be right but that didn't mean he isn't fringe. Of course you do you are a JW. If you were evangelizing to other JWs that would probably be just right. But in the context of this discussion you aren't.


As long as it doesn't conflict with JW dogma.
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Then what are you quarreling about...right is right, regardless...
 
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Elvira said:
Actions are actions...we all have a choice to commit them or not...some people have a compulsion/desire to murder, some people have a compulsion/desire to be with children...some people have a compulsion/desire to be with the same sex...
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ok why should they not be with the same sex if that's the sex they want?

why should i judge what you do as right or wrong based on faith?
 
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Elvira said:
You need to research and get your facts straight first of when men of God first started writing down what God told them...also, it depends on what translation you use...KJV is poorly translated...
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someone needs to show us a god before they move on to showing us when god 1st started having humans take notes
 
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The foundation of this thread is flawed. It does not specify which God, whose God.

I believe there is a strong possibility of a higher power, God, possibly multiple gods. I believe the likelihood that such higher power would actually care about homosexuality, make it "wrong", a "sin", when we see it naturally occurring and there is no real negative effect that comes from practicing it in every case or even most.

I believe that the Bible does mention homosexuality as wrong, but Jesus himself does not. Therefore, a Christian can easily just see the words of Jesus and only Jesus as the only true Gospel, and see the other words/texts of the Bible as nothing more than humans attempting to speak for God, and subject to human error, failings, bigotry, personal feelings, personal views.
 
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independentusa said:
I have heard so often that God hates Gays from the religious right. My thought is this, God made people Gay. No matter what people tell you it is not a choice. If it was, no one would be gay. So if God made people gay, and if God does not make mistakes, then how can God hate someone who is as God made him or her. Only if you think God can make mistakes, and so many of them, can you believe God hates Gay people. And if God made Gays the way they are, how can you as a religious person hate someone God made Gay.
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I think the religious answer would be that Gay and Lesbian people were not born that way.

In the same way that murderers were not born murderers.

They choose to engage in sinful acts.


So god doesn't hate gay people, he hates all people who perform sinful acts.
 
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lurchadams said:
The bible also says it's cool to own slaves and that you should stone adulterers. People sometimes pick and choose what make them comfortable to believe. Many people still believe Barack Obama is a secret muslim from Kenya.
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This dude has many secrets that we will never know.
 
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" And if God made Gays the way they are, how can you as a religious person hate someone God made Gay. "

If you think God has made someone gay it's time for them to "straighten" up.
 
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PTF said:
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" And if God made Gays the way they are, how can you as a religious person hate someone God made Gay. "

If you think God has made someone gay it's time for them to "straighten" up.
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Exactly...the day man deviated from what God made...a perfect human man, is the day man began fighting his inclination to sin...
 
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Rich2018 said:
I think the religious answer would be that Gay and Lesbian people were not born that way.

In the same way that murderers were not born murderers.

They choose to engage in sinful acts.


So god doesn't hate gay people, he hates all people who perform sinful acts.
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God loves us all. We all fall short of his glory. It isn't your place to judge anyone.
 
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Elvira said:
Exactly...the day man deviated from what God made...a perfect human man, is the day man began fighting his inclination to sin...
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Good post.
I don't need to " Add a Second Word " to this one.
 
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PTF said:
This dude has many secrets that we will never know.
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Should one ever have the courage to open his closet, they'd better be sure to stand back!
 
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TheGoverness said:
Oh my God. You really wanna do this again? :roll:

Trying to equate homosexuality with pedophilia and serial killers, is gross and stupid.
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If the idea is that "whatever someone's inclinations or actions, they are mere automatons because God gives us souls, so God is responsible for human action and interaction".... then equating it with anything humans do ("good" or "bad", though really, there would be no more such thing) is consistent.
 
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Howard the Duck said:
God loves us all. We all fall short of his glory. It isn't your place to judge anyone.
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True - which is not the same as pretending to inability to judge actions.
 
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Howard the Duck said:
He said God hates gay people. That is decidedly untrue. Take it up with him.
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If they won't be allowed into God's kingdom, what do you think? 1 Cor. 6:9,10
 
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Howard the Duck said:
He said God hates gay people. That is decidedly untrue. Take it up with him.
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I agree that God doesn't hate gay people any more than he hates the rest of us. My point was merely that the common extension of not judging hearts to not judging actions is equally untrue.
 
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cpwill said:
I agree that God doesn't hate gay people any more than he hates the rest of us. My point was merely that the common extension of not judging hearts to not judging actions is equally untrue.
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Excellent.

My point is it isn't our job as mortals to judge anyone.
 
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Howard the Duck said:
We are all sinners. Does God hate us, too?
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It's not that he hates the person but He hates the practice of sin without retraint or repentance...absolutely...
 
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Howard the Duck said:
Good. Ok. Is being gay any worse than say, being a thief? Or being a murderer? Or taking health care away from millions just to watch them cry?
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No, Paul says that none of them will inherit God's kingdom...
 
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