Thomas Sowell on the Problems for Blacks Created by the White Liberal Agenda.

[Captain Adverse]

Many of our Forum members may not be old enough to remember what Black culture was like back in the 50's and 60's before the advent of Affirmative Action and the welfare expansion.

I am often surprised at how many historical figures I have met over the course of my early lifetime. In regards to this topic, I never had the honor of meeting Dr. Martin Luther King; but I did meet Malcolm X twice due to the fact an uncle was a follower of his and had hosted some meetings of Malcolm's group in his apartment in Harlem N.Y.. I also met Angela Davis when I was living with my aunt's family in Watts, CA back in 1970. I can tell you that neither of those people believed in the wide-spread dependence on the welfare system, or any other hand-out from White society. It seemed to me that they pushed personal effort as educated and active citizens as the soundest method of Black advancement as equal members of American society. That's not what I see today in Black culture.

Thomas Sowell, who wrote the book "Black Rednecks and White Liberals," holds the same viewpoints and has written about what has been problematic ever since.

Sowell argues that the black ghetto culture, which is claimed to be "authentic black culture", is actually a highly dysfunctional white southern redneck culture which existed during the antebellum South...(described as) an aversion to work, proneness to violence, neglect of education, sexual promiscuity, improvidence, drunkenness, lack of entrepreneurship,… and a style of religious oratory marked by strident rhetoric, unbridled emotions, and flamboyant imagery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rednecks_and_White_Liberals

The following video sums it up in a (relative) nutshell:



The key points:

1. Black Rednecks and the welfare lifestyle that perpetuates this culture. Claiming the problems of Blacks are consequences of the actions of Whites allows a blanket excuse for personal and cultural shortcomings

2. Blaming others for anything in which Blacks lag behind (or like riots, the things Black's do), leads to the belief among Black Rednecks that external reasons are the cause of anything that happens to Blacks.

3. Black Redneck hostility toward other minorities is ignored or justified.

4. The lawless thug life and gangsta rap is not only condoned but glorified by White Liberals.

5. White Liberals always opine "What can we do to help them?" as opposed to letting Blacks act to improve themselves.

6. Misconceptions of history. Using slavery as an all-purpose explanation for many social phenomena and counter-productive behavior, without evidence and against actual evidence to the contrary.

7. That Racism accounts for most Black problems.

IMO if Blacks really want to advance, then throwing off this victimhood mentality and striving as every other person, white or minority, to advance on ones own merits would be the key to success.

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

I brought this up in another thread. Funny how EVERY problem in this country is the 'liberals' fault. You Cons got to turn the AM radio OFF. BTW I don't know a single 'liberal' who condones and glorifies 'lawless thug life'.

Anyway I am old enough to remember what Black culture was like back in the 50's and 60's. And I also remember when I was down south signs on bathrooms that said 'Whites Only'. And signs in restaurants that said 'no colored allowed'. And reading about Blacks being made to sit in the back of the bus. And those things went on for 100+ years.

And even today I read stories about people referring to the previous 1st lady as an 'ape in heals'.

But of course none of that has anything to do with the problems of race in this country. No, it's all the 'liberals' fault.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Many of our Forum members may not be old enough to remember what Black culture was like back in the 50's and 60's before the advent of Affirmative Action and the welfare expansion.

I am often surprised at how many historical figures I have met over the course of my early lifetime. In regards to this topic, I never had the honor of meeting Dr. Martin Luther King; but I did meet Malcolm X twice due to the fact an uncle was a follower of his and had hosted some meetings of Malcolm's group in his apartment in Harlem N.Y.. I also met Angela Davis when I was living with my aunt's family in Watts, CA back in 1970. I can tell you that neither of those people believed in the wide-spread dependence on the welfare system, or any other hand-out from White society. It seemed to me that they pushed personal effort as educated and active citizens as the soundest method of Black advancement as equal members of American society. That's not what I see today in Black culture.

Thomas Sowell, who wrote the book "Black Rednecks and White Liberals," holds the same viewpoints and has written about what has been problematic ever since.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rednecks_and_White_Liberals

The following video sums it up in a (relative) nutshell:



The key points:

1. Black Rednecks and the welfare lifestyle that perpetuates this culture. Claiming the problems of Blacks are consequences of the actions of Whites allows a blanket excuse for personal and cultural shortcomings

2. Blaming others for anything in which Blacks lag behind (or like riots, the things Black's do), leads to the belief among Black Rednecks that external reasons are the cause of anything that happens to Blacks.

3. Black Redneck hostility toward other minorities is ignored or justified.

4. The lawless thug life and gangsta rap is not only condoned but glorified by White Liberals.

5. White Liberals always opine "What can we do to help them?" as opposed to letting Blacks act to improve themselves.

6. Misconceptions of history. Using slavery as an all-purpose explanation for many social phenomena and counter-productive behavior, without evidence and against actual evidence to the contrary.

7. That Racism accounts for most Black problems.

IMO if Blacks really want to advance, then throwing off this victimhood mentality and striving as every other person, white or minority, to advance on ones own merits would be the key to success.

What ever happened to BLACK PRIDE?

Everyone talks about it, claim they have it, but when do we see it for real rather than the Victim Culture drenched caricature of it which works so well...

 

[RabidAlpaca]

So in summary: "Black poverty is 100% the fault of white liberals and if we'd just cut all of their social services they could thrive like white people."

And even today I read stories about people referring to the previous 1st lady as an 'ape in heals'.

I saw a thread a few days ago where many posters were claiming that blacks are just lazier and genetically inferior to whites. Hilariously also the same people that proclaim racism has been dead for a long time.

 

[Hawkeye10]

I brought this up in another thread. Funny how EVERY problem in this country is the 'liberals' fault. You Cons got to turn the AM radio OFF. BTW I don't know a single 'liberal' who condones and glorifies 'lawless thug life'.

Anyway I am old enough to remember what Black culture was like back in the 50's and 60's. And I also remember when I was down south signs on bathrooms that said 'Whites Only'. And signs in restaurants that said 'no colored allowed'. And reading about Blacks being made to sit in the back of the bus. And those things went on for 100+ years.

And even today I read stories about people referring to the previous 1st lady as an 'ape in heals'.

But of course none of that has anything to do with the problems of race in this country. No, it's all the 'liberals' fault.

Is an ape in heels far worse than being an Orange orangutan?

They sound about the same too me, so I say if you are fine with one then you gotta be fine with the other.

 

[Hawkeye10]

So in summary: "Black poverty is 100% the fault of white liberals and if we'd just cut all of their social services they could thrive like white people."





I saw a thread a few days ago where many posters were claiming that blacks are just lazier and genetically inferior to whites. Hilariously also the same people that proclaim racism has been dead for a long time.

Truth has immunity from your charges of conduct of "ism".

 

[calamity]

Not a day goes by when some successful black person isn't called an N-word or some other racial epitaph in any comment section across America, be he or she President, first lady, a nationally known physisist or a star athlete.

The problem isn't liberals. The problem is racism.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Is an ape in heels far worse than being an Orange orangutan?
They sound about the same too me, so I say if you are fine with one then you gotta be fine with the other.

Are excessive spray-tan users a race that have been historically compared to orangutans? That you don't see the difference is pretty mind blowing.

Truth has immunity from your charges of conduct of "ism".

So you have nothing to say then. Perhaps you can show me how I'm wrong and that people don't think blacks are lazy and genetically inferior and that racism is in fact dead. Go ahead, rain on me with evidence.

 

[ttwtt78640]

So in summary: "Black poverty is 100% the fault of white liberals and if we'd just cut all of their social services they could thrive like white people."





I saw a thread a few days ago where many posters were claiming that blacks are just lazier and genetically inferior to whites. Hilariously also the same people that proclaim racism has been dead for a long time.

Since when is income redistribution to a low (or no) wage worker a "social service"? It is simply a reward (from society?) for failure to provide for one's self and dependents. Fine if that is due to age, temporary layoff or disability but extremely counter productive for a lifestyle choice.

 

[Captain Adverse]

I brought this up in another thread. Funny how EVERY problem in this country is the 'liberals' fault. You Cons got to turn the AM radio OFF. BTW I don't know a single 'liberal' who condones and glorifies 'lawless thug life'.

Anyway I am old enough to remember what Black culture was like back in the 50's and 60's. And I also remember when I was down south signs on bathrooms that said 'Whites Only'. And signs in restaurants that said 'no colored allowed'. And reading about Blacks being made to sit in the back of the bus. And those things went on for 100+ years.

And even today I read stories about people referring to the previous 1st lady as an 'ape in heals'.

But of course none of that has anything to do with the problems of race in this country. No, it's all the 'liberals' fault.

Of course, providing excuses and offering straw man side-roads is the typical response. :roll:

You miss the point entirely. Yes, there were many issues of institutional racism back in the day, both in the South and (often ignored) in the North as well.

The point is that before Affirmative Action and expanded dependence on the welfare system, there was by and large a significant work and self-achieve ethic among Black Americans. The push to overcome adversity and still achieve success.

My grandfather worked his way up from a ditch-digger, getting a job as a coroner's assistant, all the while working on his education and subsequently graduating from medical school and becoming a prominent physician. All this between the 1920's and the 1940's BEFORE Brown vs. Board of Education. He taught his children to work hard and achieve, and make no nevermind what the "White Man" said. MY parent's taught me that too, which is how I entered the Army as an enlisted man, became an Army Officer, and eventually a lawyer.

Yes we dealt with racism, but it didn't hold us back. It didn't hold all those other "Uncle Toms" like Thurgood Marshall and Clarence Thomas back either. Saying it's always the other person's fault when you don't make it, crying discrimination as your universal answer for personal failure...that's just victimhood mentality at it's finest.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Since when is income redistribution to a low (or no) wage worker a "social service"? It is simply a reward (from society?) for failure to provide for one's self and dependents. Fine if that is due to age, temporary layoff or disability but extremely counter productive for a lifestyle choice.

Ok, in an age where there are more workers than jobs and the jobs there are require a higher and higher level of skills, let's get rid of the social safety net altogether and just let poor people die. No job? Then no food, no healthcare, no basic humanity, **** you. That'll jump-start them into success because that's the only thing holding them back, right? :roll: Are you one of the people that think black people as a whole just don't want to work because they've made the net into a hammock?

Of course, providing excuses and offering straw man side-roads is the typical response. :roll:
You miss the point entirely. Yes, there were many issues of institutional racism back in the day, both in the South and (often ignored) in the North as well.
The point is that before Affirmative Action and expanded dependence on the welfare system, there was by and large a significant work and self-achieve ethic among Black Americans. The push to overcome adversity and still achieve success.
My grandfather worked his way up from a ditch-digger, getting a job as a coroner's assistant, all the while working on his education and subsequently graduating from medical school and becoming a prominent physician. All this between the 1920's and the 1940's BEFORE Brown vs. Board of Education. He taught his children to work hard and achieve, and make no nevermind what the "White Man" said. MY parent's taught me that too, which is how I entered the Army as an enlisted man, became an Army Officer, and eventually a lawyer.
Yes we dealt with racism, but it didn't hold us back. It didn't hold all those other "Uncle Toms" like Thurgood Marshall and Clarence Thomas back either. Saying it's always the other person's fault when you don't make it, crying discrimination as your universal answer for personal failure...that's just victimhood mentality at it's finest.

Yeah, if you can do it, obviously ALL black people can. They're just too lazy, right?

 

[Captain Adverse]

Ok, in an age where there are more workers than jobs and the jobs there are require a higher and higher level of skills, let's get rid of the social safety net altogether and just let poor people die. No job? Then no food, no healthcare, no basic humanity, **** you. That'll jump-start them into success because that's the only thing holding them back, right? :roll: Are you one of the people that think black people as a whole just don't want to work because they've made the net into a hammock?



Yeah, if you can do it, obviously ALL black people can. They're just too lazy, right?

Really? So if one White person can make it, does that mean ALL white people can? Apparently in your world view they must, so I guess your explanation for those White folk who don't is what? Laziness too? :roll:

Success is NEVER guaranteed. But always blaming personal failure on someone else is no solution. Own your life, accept the results of your own choices. Then keep on keeping on like we used to say.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Of course, providing excuses and offering straw man side-roads is the typical response. :roll:

You miss the point entirely. Yes, there were many issues of institutional racism back in the day, both in the South and (often ignored) in the North as well.

The point is that before Affirmative Action and expanded dependence on the welfare system, there was by and large a significant work and self-achieve ethic among Black Americans. The push to overcome adversity and still achieve success.

My grandfather worked his way up from a ditch-digger, getting a job as a coroner's assistant, all the while working on his education and subsequently graduating from medical school and becoming a prominent physician. All this between the 1920's and the 1940's BEFORE Brown vs. Board of Education. He taught his children to work hard and achieve, and make no nevermind what the "White Man" said. MY parent's taught me that too, which is how I entered the Army as an enlisted man, became an Army Officer, and eventually a lawyer.

Yes we dealt with racism, but it didn't hold us back. It didn't hold all those other "Uncle Toms" like Thurgood Marshall and Clarence Thomas back either. Saying it's always the other person's fault when you don't make it, crying discrimination as your universal answer for personal failure...that's just victimhood mentality at it's finest.

One of my son's best HS friends is black, he worked for me for about a year, he is the youngest of four graduated #3 of his class, the sibs have all graduated university, he is about to, two of them have masters.......he explained that there are two rules in his house................. they will succeed, and racism is never going to be accepted as an excuse for not getting it done. They were taught this from rugrat on up.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Really? So if one White person can make it, does that mean ALL white people can? Apparently in your world view they must, so I guess your explanation for those White folk who don't is what? Laziness too?
Success is NEVER guaranteed. But always blaming personal failure on someone else is no solution. Own your life, accept the results of your own choices.

You act like the only thing holding blacks back is people periodically shouting the N word at them, and if they would just not listen and carry on they wouldn't be the losers you've painted them to be. Black neighborhoods and schools are dramatically underfunded compared to white neighborhoods and schools, many of which are just drop out factories where even the teachers don't give one flying ****. How can you possibly be expected to be competitive in a highly technical job market when you can't even get the basic education you're entitled to as an American?

Not all racism is a redneck yelling obscenities, there are legitimate barriers placed in their path. Can some get past them and become successful? Of course, but not everybody had a dad like yours to guide them in life nor is joining the army always a viable option. That you simplify everything to "waaa white liberals did it" makes it obvious you care more about partisanism than analyzing the complex historical and socioeconomic factors.

One of my son's best HS friends is black, he worked for me for about a year, he is the youngest on four graduated #3 of his class, the sibs have all graduated university, he is about to, two of them have masters.......he explained that there are two rules in his house................. they will succeed, and racism is never going to be accept as an excuse for not getting it done. They were taught this from rugrat on up.

"I anecdotally know a black guy who succeeded, therefore it's only a matter of attitude and effort."

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

Of course, providing excuses and offering straw man side-roads is the typical response. :roll:

You miss the point entirely. Yes, there were many issues of institutional racism back in the day, both in the South and (often ignored) in the North as well.

The point is that before Affirmative Action and expanded dependence on the welfare system, there was by and large a significant work and self-achieve ethic among Black Americans. The push to overcome adversity and still achieve success.

My grandfather worked his way up from a ditch-digger, getting a job as a coroner's assistant, all the while working on his education and subsequently graduating from medical school and becoming a prominent physician. All this between the 1920's and the 1940's BEFORE Brown vs. Board of Education. He taught his children to work hard and achieve, and make no nevermind what the "White Man" said. MY parent's taught me that too, which is how I entered the Army as an enlisted man, became an Army Officer, and eventually a lawyer.

Yes we dealt with racism, but it didn't hold us back. It didn't hold all those other "Uncle Toms" like Thurgood Marshall and Clarence Thomas back either. Saying it's always the other person's fault when you don't make it, crying discrimination as your universal answer for personal failure...that's just victimhood mentality at it's finest.

I never said it was all racism's fault. There are many problems within the Black community that only Blacks can solve for themselves.

But don't sit there and blame liberals for all of the problems, and I'm not just talking about race in the country. You talk about cop outs, and victim-hood? That's all I hear from conservatives nowadays. The war on whites, the war on Christians, the war on the rich. It's all the fault of the 'liberals'. The 'liberal press' are the enemy of the people. It's nothing but a lazy generalization.

Anyway racism is still a HUGE problem in this country. And it's not all the liberals and their policies fault. Cons and their 'policies' and hatred of anyone of color doesn't help things either.

 

[katzgar]

Many of our Forum members may not be old enough to remember what Black culture was like back in the 50's and 60's before the advent of Affirmative Action and the welfare expansion.

I am often surprised at how many historical figures I have met over the course of my early lifetime. In regards to this topic, I never had the honor of meeting Dr. Martin Luther King; but I did meet Malcolm X twice due to the fact an uncle was a follower of his and had hosted some meetings of Malcolm's group in his apartment in Harlem N.Y.. I also met Angela Davis when I was living with my aunt's family in Watts, CA back in 1970. I can tell you that neither of those people believed in the wide-spread dependence on the welfare system, or any other hand-out from White society. It seemed to me that they pushed personal effort as educated and active citizens as the soundest method of Black advancement as equal members of American society. That's not what I see today in Black culture.

Thomas Sowell, who wrote the book "Black Rednecks and White Liberals," holds the same viewpoints and has written about what has been problematic ever since.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rednecks_and_White_Liberals

The following video sums it up in a (relative) nutshell:



The key points:

1. Black Rednecks and the welfare lifestyle that perpetuates this culture. Claiming the problems of Blacks are consequences of the actions of Whites allows a blanket excuse for personal and cultural shortcomings

2. Blaming others for anything in which Blacks lag behind (or like riots, the things Black's do), leads to the belief among Black Rednecks that external reasons are the cause of anything that happens to Blacks.

3. Black Redneck hostility toward other minorities is ignored or justified.

4. The lawless thug life and gangsta rap is not only condoned but glorified by White Liberals.

5. White Liberals always opine "What can we do to help them?" as opposed to letting Blacks act to improve themselves.

6. Misconceptions of history. Using slavery as an all-purpose explanation for many social phenomena and counter-productive behavior, without evidence and against actual evidence to the contrary.

7. That Racism accounts for most Black problems.

IMO if Blacks really want to advance, then throwing off this victimhood mentality and striving as every other person, white or minority, to advance on ones own merits would be the key to success.

I think getting past your racism would be the first step

 

[TheGoverness]

:inandout:

 

[Captain Adverse]

I never said it was all racism's fault. There are many problems within the Black community that only Blacks can solve for themselves.

But don't sit there and blame liberals for all of the problems, and I'm not just talking about race in the country. You talk about cop outs, and victim-hood? That's all I hear from conservatives nowadays. The war on whites, the war on Christians, the war on the rich. It's all the fault of the 'liberals'. The 'liberal press' are the enemy of the people. It's nothing but a lazy generalization.

Anyway racism is still a HUGE problem in this country. And it's not all the liberals and their policies fault. Cons and their 'policies' and hatred of anyone of color doesn't help things either.

No one is blaming "Liberals for ALL problems," (and by Liberal's I mean Progressive-Left not Classical Liberals), they are simply as Mr. Sowell ably points out the greatest enablers of victimhood ideology utilized by his "Black Rednecks."

Racism is NOT a "HUUUGE" problem in this country, although some people like to claim so. Yes, there are still racists, spread among ALL the races in our society, including Blacks. To some people EVERYTHING is racist and discriminatory (as well as sexist, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, patriarchal ad nauseam)...and most claims are a bunch of B/S!

So many people makes excuses for personal failure, they think other people need to take care of them, very few of such are willing to accept any responsibility and own their own lives. They don't have to since they have enablers who give them any excuse to avoid personal responsibility in the name of some social justice ideal or another.

It shouldn't be that way. We need to go back to teaching people equality of opportunity based on personal skills, intelligence and effort...equality of opportunity not equality of outcome.

 

[joG]

Many of our Forum members may not be old enough to remember what Black culture was like back in the 50's and 60's before the advent of Affirmative Action and the welfare expansion.

I am often surprised at how many historical figures I have met over the course of my early lifetime. In regards to this topic, I never had the honor of meeting Dr. Martin Luther King; but I did meet Malcolm X twice due to the fact an uncle was a follower of his and had hosted some meetings of Malcolm's group in his apartment in Harlem N.Y.. I also met Angela Davis when I was living with my aunt's family in Watts, CA back in 1970. I can tell you that neither of those people believed in the wide-spread dependence on the welfare system, or any other hand-out from White society. It seemed to me that they pushed personal effort as educated and active citizens as the soundest method of Black advancement as equal members of American society. That's not what I see today in Black culture.

Thomas Sowell, who wrote the book "Black Rednecks and White Liberals," holds the same viewpoints and has written about what has been problematic ever since.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rednecks_and_White_Liberals

The following video sums it up in a (relative) nutshell:



The key points:

1. Black Rednecks and the welfare lifestyle that perpetuates this culture. Claiming the problems of Blacks are consequences of the actions of Whites allows a blanket excuse for personal and cultural shortcomings

2. Blaming others for anything in which Blacks lag behind (or like riots, the things Black's do), leads to the belief among Black Rednecks that external reasons are the cause of anything that happens to Blacks.

3. Black Redneck hostility toward other minorities is ignored or justified.

4. The lawless thug life and gangsta rap is not only condoned but glorified by White Liberals.

5. White Liberals always opine "What can we do to help them?" as opposed to letting Blacks act to improve themselves.

6. Misconceptions of history. Using slavery as an all-purpose explanation for many social phenomena and counter-productive behavior, without evidence and against actual evidence to the contrary.

7. That Racism accounts for most Black problems.

IMO if Blacks really want to advance, then throwing off this victimhood mentality and striving as every other person, white or minority, to advance on ones own merits would be the key to success.

I think it has become quite evident that our civil rights/liberal values/welfare approach has cast a large segment of our population into the gutter. It was a large scale and well meant field experiment that does not seem to have produced good results. True, there are some developments that might be improvements connected to the massive spending and change in rules. But that can hardly be considered even remotely good enough.

My suspicion is that we need a new paradigm.

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

No one is blaming "Liberals for ALL problems," (and by Liberal's I mean Progressive-Left not Classical Liberals), they are simply as Mr. Sowell ably points out the greatest enablers of victimhood ideology utilized by his "Black Rednecks."

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Many here daily blame Liberals for all the country's problems.

Anyway in your OP Number 4 and 5 flat out say ALL Liberals: It's blaming all liberals and it's a lazy generalization.

4. The lawless thug life and gangsta rap is not only condoned but glorified by White Liberals.

5. White Liberals always opine "What can we do to help them?" as opposed to letting Blacks act to improve themselves

 

[Hawkeye10]

"I anecdotally know a black guy who succeeded, therefore it's only a matter of attitude and effort."

family matters

 

[Captain Adverse]

I think getting past your racism would be the first step

Hey, I thought only white people could be racist! Isn't that the current ideology of progressive-left victimhood? (sarcasm).

 

[Hawkeye10]

I think it has become quite evident that our civil rights/liberal values/welfare approach has cast a large segment of our population into the gutter. It was a large scale and well meant field experiment that does not seem to have produced good results. True, there are some developments that might be improvements connected to the massive spending and change in rules. But that can hardly be considered even remotely good enough.

My suspicion is that we need a new paradigm.

Encouraging folks to view themselves as victims, and to blame their failures on that, has proven to be a bad idea just as so many said it was.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Ok, in an age where there are more workers than jobs and the jobs there are require a higher and higher level of skills, let's get rid of the social safety net altogether and just let poor people die. No job? Then no food, no healthcare, no basic humanity, **** you. That'll jump-start them into success because that's the only thing holding them back, right? :roll: Are you one of the people that think black people as a whole just don't want to work because they've made the net into a hammock?



Yeah, if you can do it, obviously ALL black people can. They're just too lazy, right?

The right to demand pay from those with "too much" simply because one has "too little" is an absurd "right" regardless of race. BTW, many more white folks ride the gravy train than black folks despite their alleged "white privilege". Making the "safety net" out to be some kind of reparations program is pure BS - it is simply a reward for personal economic, social and educational failure for those that need an excuse for their present situation.

Any attempt to impose a lifetime limit on this "temporary" assistance is deemed cruel and unusual punishment. Why not replace all "safety net" assistance (except to the elderly and disabled) with a one time payment of $75K - made available to any and all US citizens? That is the equivalent of saving 100% of 5 years wages at a full-time MW job - a feat not many can manage on their own but that have somehow managed to survive and obtain the (elusive?) ability to support themselves and their dependents. Poverty is not a black thing and working to support oneself is not a white thing. The cost of such a program is about the same as "free" college for all - let's try it and stop crying about how mean it is to not keep folks on the dole.

 

[Captain Adverse]

Many here daily blame Liberals for all the country's problems.

Anyway in your OP Number 4 and 5 flat out say ALL Liberals: It's blaming all liberals and it's a lazy generalization.

4. The lawless thug life and gangsta rap is not only condoned but glorified by White Liberals.

5. White Liberals always opine "What can we do to help them?" as opposed to letting Blacks act to improve themselves

(Sigh) The "points" were summarizations of points made in the video...for people in this Forum who often skip reviewing the source material. They were not MY assertions.

However, I agree with Mr. Sowell in that the majority of Progressive-Left Liberals are often guilty of these practices. I consider myself a "Classical Liberal."