This is now 16 Women that have Accused Trump of Sexual Attacks

[daeler]

Bulls***. Not one person has come forward to support any of these claims.



Hence where the story becomes a known lie. You can't file a lawsuit against a witness in a criminal case. You can make a counter claim to the court in the same instance but NO court would here any lawsuit for defamation against a witness in a criminal proceeding and you can't file a suit against a District Attorney as the case would plead Superior Court of ******* County vs Donald Trump.

Any threat against a witness in a criminal case/investigation is witness tampering and carries its own charges This one point alone proves your theories to be utter Bulls***.

Not to mention if any of these 20 alleged victims were to make such a claim to law enforcement and had evidence like seamen or witnesses, they know that Trump would fall over backwards to buy them off.


Not defending Trump, just not willing to swallow Liberal BS. We saw what happened during the Kavanaugh hearings where Liberals accused him of being a high school alcoholic rape train member with the very same accusations. We didn't buy it then and no one is going to buy it now.

Du Pont heir dodged prison for raping 3-year-old daughter after judge ruled he 'would not fare well' behind bars - New York Daily News

That link leads to information on a nobody, someone you have never heard of and is not nearly as rich or powerful as POTUS. He got nothing for raping a 3 year old girl, his daughter, you think Someone with more resources can't make someones life miserable before a trial happens?
Your particular attitude is why most women who are raped don't even try to report.

 

[nota bene]

Unfortunately, rape and sexual misconduct is one of those crimes that rarely get reported, difficult to prove without DNA evidence (he said, she said) and is easy to explain away by saying "mutual consent". Nonetheless and as I said in the OP, only about 5% or less of the accusations have been proven to be false, making the case against the 19 accusations against Trump even more likely to be true. Especially with what he has personally said before (see Hollywood tape). '

In addition, shouldn't we actually expect much, much, much more from a man who is our president. How many times has any other president been accused (even by his own wife) of so much sexual misconduct. Clinton comes to mind and in his case it was only a few women and those were proven to be true. This suggests that Trump is not only guilty as hell but much more so than Clinton.

Bill Clinton's philandering--his "bimbo eruptions," as his staff called them when he was Governor of Arkansas--was well-known long before his Presidency.

Trump has been accused of just about anything I can think of. Well, he hasn't been accused of animal abuse yet, but I'm guessing that this is because, to my knowledge, there are no pets in his household. The number of accusations doesn't make them true.

And I really, really don't need for you to tell me about rape. But I will tell you that the timing of this accusation is mighty interesting.

 

[Condor060]

Du Pont heir dodged prison for raping 3-year-old daughter after judge ruled he 'would not fare well' behind bars - New York Daily News

That link leads to information on a nobody, someone you have never heard of and is not nearly as rich or powerful as POTUS. He got nothing for raping a 3 year old girl, his daughter, you think Someone with more resources can't make someones life miserable before a trial happens?
Your particular attitude is why most women who are raped don't even try to report.

Well I guess thats the new standard. Since this guy got off, nobody should ever claim they were raped again. Got it.

 

[DamnYankee]

Dems are dumb lemming to promote such silliness....

exposes the swamp...keep it up dems

That's the mentality of the left. They enjoy being lead around by the nose by their elites.

 

[Luckyone]

Oh, How convenient. Thanks for proving my point about Liberals. Lets roll with your statement,
If you can't prove it then you should not suggest it.

Yet here you are thread after thread making accusations without any evidence because you are a Liberal and anything that spews from your mouth should be taken as gospel because you have some data from unrelated sources that prove why its true. Wasn't it you just a few post ago stated since these women all made these accusations, that was enough to confirm Trump is guilty and the fact that he said a dirty word makes him guilty.

Oh the utter hypocrisy. Thanks for that. I was needing a good laugh.

Except that it is you that is accusing the liberals of inciting the women and in the case of Trump it is the women that he sexually molested that are accusing him. There are no accusations that I am aware of where the liberals are being accused of making up stories about sexual assault by Trump, meaning that my comment was about proving that there were any allegations against liberals to begin with. This is not about proving whether they are true or not but about proving that there are any valid accusations to begin with. From where I see it, it is only you that is doing the accusing.

You're argument is with the women like Lucy Flores, a Democratic Nevada lawmaker who have come forward about Biden groping her. Not me.



Yet all evidence to the contrary. How many Youtube videos would you like to see. What you think doesn't matter. I know thats a feeling hurt for you but lets let the people being fawned over make their own claim, shall we.



Lets see, Which is worse?

Account of Lucy Flores:
As I was taking deep breaths and preparing myself to make my case to the crowd, I felt two hands on my shoulders. I froze. “Why is the vice-president of the United States touching me?”

I felt him get closer to me from behind. He leaned further in and inhaled my hair. I was mortified. I thought to myself, “I didn’t wash my hair today and the vice-president of the United States is now smelling it. And also, what in the actual f***? Why is the vice-president of the United States smelling my hair and touching me?”

He proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head. My brain couldn’t process what was happening. I was embarrassed. I was shocked. I was confused. There is a Spanish saying, “tragame tierra,” it means, “earth, swallow me whole.” I couldn’t move and I couldn’t say anything. I wanted nothing more than to get Biden away from me. My name was called and I was never happier to get on stage in front of an audience.

or two guys doing what ALL guys do. Locker room talk between two individuals.

My gawd, are you sick or what? Kissing a woman on the back of her head and putting his hands on her shoulders compares as sexual assault to "grabbing them by the *****"? In addition, if you listen to the tape, Trump clearly states that he goes right up to women and kisses them in the mouth. This is not "locker room talk", this is real assault. Listen to the tape! It is as much proof of Trump's sexual misconduct approach as Biden's video proof that he is a touchy/feely kind of guy with no sexual intentions in mind.

If you are having a hard time with knowing the difference between these two situations, It is imperative you don't have a daughter because you would be ok with men fondling her over boys shop talk.

Here we are again, you start off your post with
If you can't prove it then you should not suggest it

It is clearly evident that you have a totally different set of values than I have and will leave it at that. Suffice it to say that I totally disagree with your set of values and no longer have any desire to talk to you any more.

And just a few lines down
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, the probabilities are that it is a duck.

You are the absolute definition of what it means today to be a Liberal. The most hypocritical self entitled Hillary worshiping people on the planet who are still crying over an election.

And out of these 44 presidents ever being accused of sexual misconduct I guess it just conveniently slipped your mind that Clinton was found guilty of sticking cigars in Monica's vagina and tasting them while in the White House. Yeah, thats real class right their and a Liberal hero, which makes most of what any Liberal would say about Trump pretty much worthless in comparison.

Since it was with Monica's consent, it certainly cannot be compared with raping someone without her consent. If you think it is, then you have a sick concept of what rape is all about.

Your arguments are bogus in my opinion and you have not convinced me of any of your points.

Anyhow, this is good bye. You are not someone I even want to be associated as talking to.

 

[daeler]

Well I guess thats the new standard. Since this guy got off, nobody should ever claim they were raped again. Got it.

Wow so you condone rape. Got it

 

[Luckyone]

Bill Clinton's philandering--his "bimbo eruptions," as his staff called them when he was Governor of Arkansas--was well-known long before his Presidency.

Trump has been accused of just about anything I can think of. Well, he hasn't been accused of animal abuse yet, but I'm guessing that this is because, to my knowledge, there are no pets in his household. The number of accusations doesn't make them true.

And I really, really don't need for you to tell me about rape. But I will tell you that the timing of this accusation is mighty interesting.

Actually, there is no timing to it. She wrote the book before and it just came out and it is not just about Trump but about the 5 men in her life that sexually attacked her. There is no "timing" here. In addition, there are no elections this week, this month, or this year, meaning that coming out with this book at this time has nothing to do with Trump and the elections.

 

[Condor060]

Except that it is you that is accusing the liberals of inciting the women and in the case of Trump it is the women that he sexually molested that are accusing him.

Never said that. I am accusing Liberals of pushing these kinds of stories. You just made that assumption on your own.

My gawd, are you sick or what? Kissing a woman on the back of her head and putting his hands on her shoulders compares as sexual assault to "grabbing them by the *****"?

More exaggerations because you have nothing to fight with. Trump stated in his world he could grab them by the *****. Now you are trying to say he was actually doing it? Nice try but this is the EXACT king of behavior Liberals are continually accused of. Exaggerations to make false claims.

In addition, if you listen to the tape, Trump clearly states that he goes right up to women and kisses them in the mouth. This is not "locker room talk", this is real assault. Listen to the tape!

So you think telling another guy you go right up to women and kiss them on the mouth is sexual assault? Thats just idiocy.

It is as much proof of Trump's sexual misconduct approach as Biden's video proof that he is a touchy/feely kind of guy with no sexual intentions in mind.

Actually touching women, breathing in their hair, rubbing their shoulders, kissing their heads, while sniffing their necks is just fine as long as the guy has no sexual intentions. You're out of your f***ing mind. I tell you what. Try it with my daughter. I taught her well. She will rip your nuts off not to mention she's packin.

It is clearly evident that you have a totally different set of values than I have and will leave it at that. Suffice it to say that I totally disagree with your set of values and no longer have any desire to talk to you any more.

Yeah, Clearly.

Since it was with Monica's consent, it certainly cannot be compared with raping someone without her consent. If you think it is, then you have a sick concept of what rape is all about.

Before is was sexual misconduct claims to which I responded, now you are deflecting to comparing rape with consent? I don't think so but nice try.

Your arguments are bogus in my opinion and you have not convinced me of any of your points.

Anyhow, this is good bye. You are not someone I even want to be associated as talking to.

You can't prove anything to a liberal, we all know that. We get it, accusations are convictions unless its against your own kind. Foundling women is fine if you have no sexual intent but telling someone you are kissing women on the mouth is now sexual assault.

Give me a break

 

[Condor060]

Well I guess thats the new standard. Since this guy got off, nobody should ever claim they were raped again. Got it.

Wow so you condone rape. Got it

If that is all you got from that statement, you need to get back to your hooked on phonics work book because you seem a bit lost.

 

[nota bene]

Actually, there is no timing to it. She wrote the book before and it just came out and it is not just about Trump but about the 5 men in her life that sexually attacked her. There is no "timing" here. In addition, there are no elections this week, this month, or this year, meaning that coming out with this book at this time has nothing to do with Trump and the elections.

Oh, please. You surely aren't this credulous. The book will be published on July 2nd. What better way to create interest than this?

But here's something I find rather peculiar: When asked by Lawrence O'Donnell in an MSNBC interview whether she would file a rape charge and use the coat she was wearing at the time and had saved all these years, she replied, "No, I would find it disrespectful to the women who are down on the [Southern] border who are being raped around the clock down there without any protection. ...The women have very little protection there; it would just be disrespectful." E. Jean Carroll Says She Will Not Seek A Rape Charge Against Donald Trump

Oh, uh-huh. :roll:

 

[daeler]

If that is all you got from that statement, you need to get back to your hooked on phonics work book because you seem a bit lost.

It was a stupid response to a stupid response. You made an idiotic response to my comment so I gave you one back. Don't like it? make a better response.

 

[Condor060]

It was a stupid response to a stupid response. You made an idiotic response to my comment so I gave you one back. Don't like it? make a better response.

Wasn't this your post or am I hallucinating?

That link leads to information on a nobody, someone you have never heard of and is not nearly as rich or powerful as POTUS. He got nothing for raping a 3 year old girl, his daughter, you think Someone with more resources can't make someones life miserable before a trial happens?

So what is the point here you are making?

 

[Luckyone]

Oh, please. You surely aren't this credulous. The book will be published on July 2nd. What better way to create interest than this?

But here's something I find rather peculiar: When asked by Lawrence O'Donnell in an MSNBC interview whether she would file a rape charge and use the coat she was wearing at the time and had saved all these years, she replied, "No, I would find it disrespectful to the women who are down on the [Southern] border who are being raped around the clock down there without any protection. ...The women have very little protection there; it would just be disrespectful." E. Jean Carroll Says She Will Not Seek A Rape Charge Against Donald Trump

Oh, uh-huh. :roll:

Bottom line, it is 19 different women alleging sexual misconduct from Trump. Never before has any president been accused by so many women of sexual misconduct and there were many, starting with Obama, that were hated enough that sexual allegations could have been falsely produced by people that hated him and yet there were not.

Where there is smoke, there is usually fire and in the case of Trump, the amount of smoke could not have been created without a fire.

In addition, his own sociopathic character and personality that is without ethics, morals, principles or humanity strongly suggests that he would be the kind of person that would do this. In addition, his own wife Ivana accused him of raping her at one time.

How many coincidences does anyone need before a light comes out that says "this is more than highly likely but highly probable"? How much benefit of the doubt can you give anyone that has proven over and over again his lack of empathy, lack of respect for others, lack of respect for the law, and lack of common sense in everything he does? Where does someone finally get convinced that this man is immoral and cares only about himself. How many women have to come out and accuse him of sexual misconduct before someone says "my gawd, this is not fake, it is real"?

 

[daeler]

Wasn't this your post or am I hallucinating?



So what is the point here you are making?

The point was, Don't just assume that a person is lying because you like the person they are accusing. You asked why she didn't report it 25 years ago, the answer was that Trump was too powerful and too connected for anything to stick and she was afraid, you dismissed that as a stupid excuse. I pointed to another case of rape where a powerful person was basically let go because he is rich. Do you understand why she would be scared to report someone as powerful and rich as Trump when the political climate of the time was against her? The current political climate is starting to shift and more people are starting to report decades old cases because of that. I tend to believe most accusations against someone who has walked in on naked teenagers and young women, someone who has boasted that since he is rich he can molest women and they can't do anything about it, someone who has shown that he has 0 respect for women. I won't say that it isn't suspicious timing, because it is, but that doesn't mean that the story is false.

 

[Roadvirus]

Oh, please. You surely aren't this credulous. The book will be published on July 2nd. What better way to create interest than this?

But here's something I find rather peculiar: When asked by Lawrence O'Donnell in an MSNBC interview whether she would file a rape charge and use the coat she was wearing at the time and had saved all these years, she replied, "No, I would find it disrespectful to the women who are down on the [Southern] border who are being raped around the clock down there without any protection. ...The women have very little protection there; it would just be disrespectful." E. Jean Carroll Says She Will Not Seek A Rape Charge Against Donald Trump

Oh, uh-huh. :roll:

She makes this bombshell accusation....and then declines to do anything about it.
Oh yeah...this is getting MORE suspicious.

 

[Roadvirus]

Bottom line, it is 19 different women alleging sexual misconduct from Trump.

Multiple women who come out with accusations....then offer no proof and then suddenly disappear as fast as they appeared.

Where there is smoke, there is usually fire and in the case of Trump, the amount of smoke could not have been created without a fire.

The only smoke is coming from the ears of Anti-Trumpers. Either that or Pennsylvania

 

[Condor060]

The point was, Don't just assume that a person is lying because you like the person they are accusing. You asked why she didn't report it 25 years ago, the answer was that Trump was too powerful and too connected for anything to stick and she was afraid, you dismissed that as a stupid excuse. I pointed to another case of rape where a powerful person was basically let go because he is rich. Do you understand why she would be scared to report someone as powerful and rich as Trump when the political climate of the time was against her? The current political climate is starting to shift and more people are starting to report decades old cases because of that. I tend to believe most accusations against someone who has walked in on naked teenagers and young women, someone who has boasted that since he is rich he can molest women and they can't do anything about it, someone who has shown that he has 0 respect for women. I won't say that it isn't suspicious timing, because it is, but that doesn't mean that the story is false.

Are we talking about those 25 year old accusations like accusing Kavanaugh of being a High School alcoholic rape train member? If they were sooooo scared to report these rapes against rich and powerful Trump then, why are they coming forward now against Billionaire President Trump when they don't have a chance in hell of making a case?

The current political climate is starting to shift because Liberals are now taunting that accusations are now convictions which brings every loony out of the closet for a buck. You tend to believe most accusations because they are against Trump. I dare you to hold your own family accountable to the same degree.

So you have some nobody woman who is stumping her new book, that claims to have been raped by a few people to include Trump, and you call nothing into question. You have seen no evidence, pictures, supporting witnesses, video, audio, or so much as a historical attachment between Trump and this woman and you have made up your mind.

Why didn't she bring it up in 2016? I don't take any accusations as evidence of anything. Feel free to hold your family to a different accountability.

 

[Trump]

 

[daeler]

Are we talking about those 25 year old accusations like accusing Kavanaugh of being a High School alcoholic rape train member? If they were sooooo scared to report these rapes against rich and powerful Trump then, why are they coming forward now against Billionaire President Trump when they don't have a chance in hell of making a case?

The current political climate is starting to shift because Liberals are now taunting that accusations are now convictions which brings every loony out of the closet for a buck. You tend to believe most accusations because they are against Trump. I dare you to hold your own family accountable to the same degree.

So you have some nobody woman who is stumping her new book, that claims to have been raped by a few people to include Trump, and you call nothing into question. You have seen no evidence, pictures, supporting witnesses, video, audio, or so much as a historical attachment between Trump and this woman and you have made up your mind.

Why didn't she bring it up in 2016? I don't take any accusations as evidence of anything. Feel free to hold your family to a different accountability.

This kind of comment says to me that if the women doesn't have any proof she might as well just keep her yap shut. Is that what you are saying?

My thought on what she could be doing is" she was afraid for 25 years had no recourse for something that was done to her and now she is trying to face that fear and do something about it." Could she be lying? sure. I wish we could have some kind of investigation into all these accusations. Problem is, no one seems to want to investigate these. why is that do you suppose?

I almost forgot to answer your earlier question. I was referring to the accusations against people like Harvey Wienstien. and against Kevin Spacey.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

The left has made so many false claims, cried wolf, lied about DJT, normal people consider the left straight up nutjobs.

ftr, most Americans don't like Trump

 

[Condor060]

This kind of comment says to me that if the women doesn't have any proof she might as well just keep her yap shut. Is that what you are saying?

My thought on what she could be doing is" she was afraid for 25 years had no recourse for something that was done to her and now she is trying to face that fear and do something about it." Could she be lying? sure. I wish we could have some kind of investigation into all these accusations. Problem is, no one seems to want to investigate these. why is that do you suppose?

Its not about wanting or not wanting to investigate 25 year old crimes. Its about the Statute of Limitations. After the time period has run, the crime can no longer be prosecuted because of lack of evidence, DNA, witness recounts ect. All of these women know this. So whats the point.

No one ever accused Kavanaugh of anything until he was to be confirmed. No one ever accused Trump of anything until he ran for president. Knowing you are outside the statute of limitations you come forward anyway just at the time these individuals are being elected or confirmed? I have absolutely no regard for these tactics and you can't expect most people to believe you when you are just telling this story 25 years later while you're trying to sell your book.

All this really does is seal everyone else's fate who have real claims.

 

[Luckyone]

Multiple women who come out with accusations....then offer no proof and then suddenly disappear as fast as they appeared.


The only smoke is coming from the ears of Anti-Trumpers. Either that or Pennsylvania

If that was the only problem with the ethics, morals, principles, and humanity with Trump, i might give his a "slight" benefit of the doubt but is has been 28 months of constant abuse of the man against everyone other than his base and even then he threw Cohen, Sessions and Sanford (staunch supporters of his) under the bus. As such, not only do I now believe all the sexual misconduct allegations thrown against him but believe there are probably more that those 19 that have not been reported.

Talk about a bad man. He is the worst.

By the way, did you read the report where less than 5% of all the rape allegations have been found to be false. In Trump's case it would seem he would have to win the lottery (13 million to one shot) of being innocent. To be innocent of all 19 allegations, he would have to be the unluckiest person that ever lived to have that many false allegations thrown at him that are false.

It would be like saying that a man arrested for robbery because he was in the vicinity and the time of the robbery of all 19 banks robbed around the world was unfairly accused because there was no tangible proof he robbed them.

Sometimes, there is such a thing as bending over backward to much to give the benefit of the doubt. Most of the time, it is what people say it is.

 

[nota bene]

If that was the only problem with the ethics, morals, principles, and humanity with Trump, i might give his a "slight" benefit of the doubt but is has been 28 months of constant abuse of the man against everyone other than his base and even then he threw Cohen, Sessions and Sanford (staunch supporters of his) under the bus. As such, not only do I now believe all the sexual misconduct allegations thrown against him but believe there are probably more that those 19 that have not been reported.

Talk about a bad man. He is the worst.

By the way, did you read the report where less than 5% of all the rape allegations have been found to be false. In Trump's case it would seem he would have to win the lottery (13 million to one shot) of being innocent. To be innocent of all 19 allegations, he would have to be the unluckiest person that ever lived to have that many false allegations thrown at him that are false.

It would be like saying that a man arrested for robbery because he was in the vicinity and the time of the robbery of all 19 banks robbed around the world was unfairly accused because there was no tangible proof he robbed them.

Sometimes, there is such a thing as bending over backward to much to give the benefit of the doubt. Most of the time, it is what people say it is.

Unless there is proof that an individual committed the bank robberies, he shouldn't be arrested. His being in the vicinity is not proof of anything.

 

[nota bene]

She makes this bombshell accusation....and then declines to do anything about it.
Oh yeah...this is getting MORE suspicious.

She declines to do anything about it because doing so would be disrespectful to other women who have been raped? Oh, uh-huh. :roll:

 

[Luckyone]

Unless there is proof that an individual committed the bank robberies, he shouldn't be arrested. His being in the vicinity is not proof of anything.

Legally that is true. Common sense would say otherwise.

When picking a president, common sense is much more important than legally. We want a moral person as the head of our country, not a thief that has not been convicted. Don't you agree?