The latest democratic cheat trick

[uptower]

If you stand with those who gave their life, limb, and freedom to give you the right to vote, please contact your states Representative and Congress person and let them know you wish for your vote to be validated, proofed, and assured to be counted correctly.

If you stand with those who gave their life, limb, and freedom to give you the right to vote, please contact your states Representative and Congress person and let them know you wish for others to have that right stripped of them by various voter suppression methods, such as denying mail-in voting.

 

[redbeer]

Mythical crooks opening a can of worms. How is this not a conspiracy theory?

The can of worms was opened a long time ago. The mythical crooks are indeed myths.

Anyone who cheats in an election in this country is a crook, criminal, lowlife, whatever you wish to call them.

 

[Moonglow]

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[redbeer]

No you don't. Vote by mail works, it has worked everywhere it has been offered. You are just trying to pull the same old BS scare tactics that have no backing, because your cult leader told you what to think.

Any person that tries to make it harder for any American to vote should be ashamed of themselves. You got nothing but fear, and we all see through you.

Lol, same talking points from those you listen....it is a lie, they presented a false narrative to you, and you bought into it. Preventing states from using "ballot harvesters" to gather ballots is wrong, open to scrutiny, and weakens the integrity of elections in this country. The truth is not scare tactics.....once again....it has NEVER, EVER been hard to vote in this country.....don't believe their bs.

 

[Linc]

Nice attempt at deflection....Trump will win in 2020, yet it still should be honest elections, don't you think? Mail in voting has its' place, but not for the vast majority of Americans. Ballot harvesting has a huge history of corruption, even with Republicans....yet this is what the democrats and MSM are pushing....hell Pelosi even wanted to put huge monies from the coronavirus bill for this tactic...wtf. Biden is a joke, even for a puppet....don't let these obstructionists, liars, crooks, make a joke out of the process of American elections....it is sacred to those who respect those who have served to give me this right.

Republicans first invented mail-in voting, and are the only ones to get a felony out of it.

 

[Condor060]

Bull****. There are states that have been doing 100% mail in voting every election. There is no evidence of it being more subject to fraud. You are parroting trump's talking points to set up a narrative to excuse his loss this fall. Your gaslighting won't work here while I'm watching.

According to the Federal U.S. Election Assistance commission’s 2016 report, more mail ballots were misdirected and unaccounted for than the margin of votes between Hillary Clinton and Donald J. Trump. She had 2.9 million more votes, yet 6.5 million ballots were misdirected or unaccounted for by the states. In other words, for every vote that Hillary won over the eventual president nationally, more than twice as many mail ballots disappeared or went to the wrong addresses.

The data demonstrates the danger of putting the presidential election into the hands of the U.S. Postal Service, as well as the problems with inaccurate and out-of-date voter registration lists.

Taking into account the 2012, 2014, 2016, and 2018 federal general elections, 28.3 million mail ballots disappeared after officials gave them to the U.S. Postal Service. There are numerous problems to point fingers at and many explanations as to what happened to these ballots, but the bottom line is simple: tens of millions of ballots were lost in the mail voting system on a scale not seen at polling places.

Thats why voting by mail won't provide an accurate count.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Mail in voting alongside with ballot harvesting....don't be fooled by these crooks. They are attempting to cheat in the 2020 election, for they cannot win without cheating. Mail in voting is fine for those overseas, away from home, etc., but for the majority of Americans this has a large history of shady dealings....don't let them lie to you.

Vote-by-Mail Makes Fraud and Errors Worse | The Heritage Foundation

Heed Jimmy Carter on the Danger of Mail-In Voting - WSJ

Be wary of voting by mail initiatives | TheHill


If you stand with those who gave their life, limb, and freedom to give you the right to vote, please contact your states Representative and Congress person and let them know you wish for your vote to be validated, proofed, and assured to be counted correctly.

^^ Failed right wing propaganda.

Study
Access Denied
after study
https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/morse/files/1p1v.pdf
after study
https://scholars.org/sites/scholars/files/ssn_key_findings_minnite_on_the_myth_of_voter_fraud.pdf
after study
https://www.propublica.org/article/kris-kobach-voter-fraud-kansas-trial
Have proven that voter fraud is exceedingly rare, and has never altered the course of any presidential election.

Way past time for right wing dingbats to find a new strategy to deceive Americans.

 

[beefheart]

Lol, same talking points from those you listen....it is a lie, they presented a false narrative to you, and you bought into it. Preventing states from using "ballot harvesters" to gather ballots is wrong, open to scrutiny, and weakens the integrity of elections in this country. The truth is not scare tactics.....once again....it has NEVER, EVER been hard to vote in this country.....don't believe their bs.

Did you know that your cult leader voted by mail?

David Jolly, a former Republican congressman from Florida, was correct when he tweeted Trump has voted by mail. Trump has used the absentee voting system in at least three elections: Trump voted by mail during New York’s mayoral election in 2017, cast an absentee ballot during the state’s midterm election the following year, and again used a vote-by-mail ballot in Florida’s primary election in 2020.

In 2017, Trump, first lady Melania Trump and their daughter, Ivanka Trump, all cast absentee votes during New York’s mayoral race. These votes made headlines at the time because it was reported that Melania and Ivanka filled out their ballots incorrectly (and therefore were invalid) while the president listed the wrong birth date:

Has President Trump Ever Voted by Mail?

 

[redbeer]

If you stand with those who gave their life, limb, and freedom to give you the right to vote, please contact your states Representative and Congress person and let them know you wish for others to have that right stripped of them by various voter suppression methods, such as denying mail-in voting.

Like the rest of you lefties, you are NOT paying attention, are you? Mail in voting has its' purpose, for those who will not be home on election day....the problem with both parties is in using "political operatives" to collect ballots, called "ballot harvesting".....this is the problem....please pay attention.

 

[Michael Cole]

Anyone who cheats in an election in this country is a crook, criminal, lowlife, whatever you wish to call them.

Of course they are. 1,000 cases. 900 some convictions. They weren't who you were referring to, though. You were referring to fictional cheats created in your mind. Reality is quite the opposite of your hypothetical prediction. You have no basis to claim vote-by-mail has a high potential for fraud. It doesn't, as the evidence proves.

Trump really has gotten into your head. He voted by mail, and here you are pitching his opposition to that which he does. Trump is laughing.

 

[beefheart]

According to the Federal U.S. Election Assistance commission’s 2016 report, more mail ballots were misdirected and unaccounted for than the margin of votes between Hillary Clinton and Donald J. Trump. She had 2.9 million more votes, yet 6.5 million ballots were misdirected or unaccounted for by the states. In other words, for every vote that Hillary won over the eventual president nationally, more than twice as many mail ballots disappeared or went to the wrong addresses.

The data demonstrates the danger of putting the presidential election into the hands of the U.S. Postal Service, as well as the problems with inaccurate and out-of-date voter registration lists.

Taking into account the 2012, 2014, 2016, and 2018 federal general elections, 28.3 million mail ballots disappeared after officials gave them to the U.S. Postal Service. There are numerous problems to point fingers at and many explanations as to what happened to these ballots, but the bottom line is simple: tens of millions of ballots were lost in the mail voting system on a scale not seen at polling places.

Thats why voting by mail won't provide an accurate count.

Provide a link to your source.

Top federal election official: voting fraud ‘not an epidemic’ – Center for Public Integrity

In January, less than a week into his presidency, Trump told lawmakers that between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused him to lose the popular vote — though not the election itself — to Democrat Hillary Clinton. He told senators a tale about ineligible voters being bussed into New Hampshire from Massachusetts. Trump then tapped Vice President Mike Pence to lead an investigation into voter fraud.
Election Assistance Commission Chairman Matthew Masterson. (Credit: EAC.gov)

“You take a look at the registration, you have illegals, you have dead people you have this — it’s really a bad situation, it’s really bad,” Trump told Fox News host Bill O’Reilly in February when asked about election integrity.

That’s not how Matthew Masterson sees it.

Masterson — the newly minted, Republican-nominated chairman of the bipartisan U.S. Election Assistance Commission — ranks Election 2016 among the most trouble-free elections ever.

The Center for Public Integrity last week spoke with Masterson about a range of election-related topics. Among them: voter fraud and suppression, U.S. House Republicans’ attempts to kill the Election Assistance Commission and his own goals for his one-year chairmanship at the tiny agency.

Formed by Congress after the 2000 presidential election’s Florida voting disaster — remember “hanging chads”? — the Election Assistance Commission largely exists to adopt voting system guidelines, promote election integrity and help states improve their balloting processes.

 

[Linc]

No you don't. Vote by mail works, it has worked everywhere it has been offered. You are just trying to pull the same old BS scare tactics that have no backing, because your cult leader told you what to think.

Any person that tries to make it harder for any American to vote should be ashamed of themselves. You got nothing but fear, and we all see through you.

Did you say that your Arizona has a Trumper Governor and supports mail-in voting? Maybe it’s his clientele. Trumpocalypse is the only fraud on anything.

 

[CMPancake]

Lol, off the high horse.....I am talking about voter integrity and you stoop to this crap. Typical....

That's a whole lot of pretentiousness coming from someone who evoked dead troops just two posts prior in this thread to defend voting suppression.

 

[Condor060]

Provide a link to your source.

Top federal election official: voting fraud ‘not an epidemic’ – Center for Public Integrity

America’s Hidden Voting Epidemic? Mail Ballot Failures | The Heritage Foundation

 

[CMPancake]

Like the rest of you lefties, you are NOT paying attention, are you? Mail in voting has its' purpose, for those who will not be home on election day....the problem with both parties is in using "political operatives" to collect ballots, called "ballot harvesting".....this is the problem....please pay attention.

In your mind, what is stopping ballot harvesting right now within the current system? For all any of us know, none of our votes can be counted at all. You're already placing a certain level of trust in the electoral system. What is preventing you from trusting computer and mail ballots?

 

[redbeer]

That's a whole lot of pretentiousness coming from someone who evoked dead troops just two posts prior in this thread to defend voting suppression.

Lol, you people crack me up....I have never stated mail in voting needs to cease....there is NO voter suppression conspiracy going on here, lol. The problem with mail in ballots is some states do not keep their registered voter rolls up to date, then they use "ballot harvesters" to get the ballots.....this process weakens voter integrity....fyi, I was responding to the poster who claimed his religion and used it to demean my purpose in this thread, thusly the "high horse".

 

[Lisa]

Mail in voting alongside with ballot harvesting....don't be fooled by these crooks. They are attempting to cheat in the 2020 election, for they cannot win without cheating. Mail in voting is fine for those overseas, away from home, etc., but for the majority of Americans this has a large history of shady dealings....don't let them lie to you.

Vote-by-Mail Makes Fraud and Errors Worse | The Heritage Foundation

Heed Jimmy Carter on the Danger of Mail-In Voting - WSJ

Be wary of voting by mail initiatives | TheHill


If you stand with those who gave their life, limb, and freedom to give you the right to vote, please contact your states Representative and Congress person and let them know you wish for your vote to be validated, proofed, and assured to be counted correctly.

So only Donald Trump and Melania can vote by mail, but its wrong for others to do it?

President Donald Trump did the same thing, taking a moment to vote — undoubtedly for himself.

So did First Lady Melania Trump, who presumably also voted for her husband.

Eight days before the March 17 primary, a Trump representative picked up vote-by-mail ballots at the Palm Beach County Elections Office, said Supervisor of Elections Wendy Sartory Link. The same person returned the ballots to the elections office the day before the primary.

Conservatives known that the higher turnout because of voting by mail will be the end of Trump so they have cranked up the outrage meter in conservative media sources.

 

[redbeer]

In your mind, what is stopping ballot harvesting right now within the current system? For all any of us know, none of our votes can be counted at all. You're already placing a certain level of trust in the electoral system. What is preventing you from trusting computer and mail ballots?

Why do you desire to change the way we vote???....agenda??? Go to your polling place, show id, sign voter roll, place vote, and go the heck home....wtf, is this too hard for you people? Maybe the internet age....lazy is the way to go....wow, just wow.

 

[Lisa]

Why do you desire to change the way we vote???....agenda??? Go to your polling place, show id, sign voter roll, place vote, and go the heck home....wtf, is this too hard for you people? Maybe the internet age....lazy is the way to go....wow, just wow.

Many states already vote 100% by mail and they dont have a problem with vote fraud. We now have a situation of a very communicable disease which makes voting by mail much safer, so why shouldn't we do it?

 

[redbeer]

So only Donald Trump and Melania can vote by mail, but its wrong for others to do it?

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Conservatives known that the higher turnout because of voting by mail will be the end of Trump so they have cranked up the outrage meter in conservative media sources.

Another one not paying attention. You parrot the lefts narrative, which is false....that is what they want you to believe and "lemming" it along to others. Mail in ballots is not the problem, it's when they use political operatives to collect "those" ballots....herein is the problem. But they don't tell you about that....keep you in the dark, keep them ignorant.

 

[Lisa]

Another one not paying attention. You parrot the lefts narrative, which is false....that is what they want you to believe and "lemming" it along to others. Mail in ballots is not the problem, it's when they use political operatives to collect "those" ballots....herein is the problem. But they don't tell you about that....keep you in the dark, keep them ignorant.

You mean like the Republicans did in North Carolina?

Prosecutors in North Carolina filed new felony charges against a Republican political operative accused of ballot tampering in a congressional election in 2018.

Leslie McCrae Dowless was charged Tuesday with two counts of felony obstruction of justice, perjury, solicitation to commit perjury, conspiracy to obstruct justice and illegal possession of absentee ballots, according to a statement by Wake County District Attorney Lorrin Freeman.

The charges relate to the tainted 9th congressional district election last year in which Republican Mark Harris led in the unofficial vote tally by a margin of about 900 votes over Democrat Dan McCready. But the election results were overturned by the state after an investigation into an absentee ballot operation on Harris' behalf suggested that Dowless had improperly collected and possibly tampered with ballots.

North Carolina GOP Operative Faces New Ballot Tampering Charges : NPR

Maybe the voters could simply mail in the ballots via the USPS.

 

[redbeer]

Many states already vote 100% by mail and they dont have a problem with vote fraud. We now have a situation of a very communicable disease which makes voting by mail much safer, so why shouldn't we do it?

Many states have not or refuse to update their registered voter rolls, that's why. You can go to Walmart, a gas station, a supermarket, but you can't go vote.....come on, don't believe their bs.

 

[CMPancake]

Why do you desire to change the way we vote???....agenda???

Sure. Everyone has an agenda. There's nothing inherently malicious about having an agenda. Bernie Sanders has an agenda, as does Pelosi, Trump, and Mitch McConnell.

Go to your polling place, show id, sign voter roll, place vote, and go the heck home....

I don't live in my registered home of record. I travel the world and have used absentee voting to do so. There's no guarantee that my ballot gets counted, let alone reach the polling station or even altered to vote for somebody else. It's all based on the trust I'm placing with the state of Florida.

wtf, is this too hard for you people?

You people, you mean the troops? The troops you wantonly use a political cudgel whenever you feel like it? You're trash.

Maybe the internet age....lazy is the way to go....wow, just wow.

Ok boomer.

 

[Lisa]

Many states have not or refuse to update their registered voter rolls, that's why. You can go to Walmart, a gas station, a supermarket, but you can't go vote.....come on, don't believe their bs.

Go sell your spin somewhere else.

 

[GDViking]

Mail in voting alongside with ballot harvesting....don't be fooled by these crooks. They are attempting to cheat in the 2020 election, for they cannot win without cheating. Mail in voting is fine for those overseas, away from home, etc., but for the majority of Americans this has a large history of shady dealings....don't let them lie to you.

Vote-by-Mail Makes Fraud and Errors Worse | The Heritage Foundation

Heed Jimmy Carter on the Danger of Mail-In Voting - WSJ

Be wary of voting by mail initiatives | TheHill


If you stand with those who gave their life, limb, and freedom to give you the right to vote, please contact your states Representative and Congress person and let them know you wish for your vote to be validated, proofed, and assured to be counted correctly.

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