"Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

[j brown's body]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

As POTUS Trump has the authority to appoint and get rid of ambassadors, so this is a nothingburger.

Actually, it begs the question, why didn't he? Why did he rely in his goons?

 

[Conservative]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yo

Guliani’s behavior.....

He is the one who blew this whole Ukraine thing up on live national television.

I realize that you’re hanging on every work out of Trump’s mouth, and you’ll parrot them whether true or not.

But I doubt that you interupted your adoration of your fool’s gold fuhrer to ask yourself where Guliani is.

Trump doesn’t have him around him. He’s only in public to the extent that he’s doing a BS “investigation” for a crackpot online right wing website that traffic is in the sort of idiotic conspiracy theories that only the most backwards of right wing fools even pays attention to.

The Ukraine issue is a non issue to most Americans and it would be to you as well if it weren't for Trump

My adoration for Trump is the liberal opinion ignoring that the admiration is for the results generated along with the disdain I have for people like you who only participate in the politics of personal destruction

you people change on a dime, hating someone when support for Trump is shown then changing tune if you believe that same person offers something you believe supports your point of view I will always celebrate success and point out your hypocrisy

 

[Tbird19482]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

It was Obama who appointed her Ambassador to Ukraine, anyone who isn't aware of that should post in another
thread where they might be more aware of pertinent facts!

She was their Ukrainian connection. All the graft and corruption flowed through her. Trump cut off their money.

Poor old Marie Yankmycrank did not lose her job. She was removed as an ambassador & sent back into the DoS.
Same pay different job. Don't know what they are b!tching about because I would have illuminated her =
from the system for insubordination

Bush appointed her to Ambassador Yes she may not have been in the Ukraine but Bush did appoint her to an Ambassadorship
so she was a Bush left over NOT an Obama left over
have a nice day

 

[Tbird19482]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

That article literally shows that Rudy Giuliani forgot about 9/11. Then digs back 40 years to find Rudy being a somewhat decent person. Lol, embarrasing.

Anyways, did you ever figure out that Republicans controlled at one point the FBI, DOJ, SCOTUS, WH, Congress and still couldn't figure out how to put Hillary in prison?

Maybe I have a copy pasta that'll explain it for you. Let me check.

Я Баба Яга [emoji328]

and they couldn't get the FBI, dept of Justice or any other domestic dept. of our Gov. to investigate the Biden's and now they want Congress to do it.
They tried to get the Ukraine to do it and that didn't happen
It is NOT Congresses job, if they think the Biden's broke the law they should have the proper dept. of the Gov. to investigate them NOT Congress
have a nice day

 

[Conservative]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

Bush appointed her to Ambassador Yes she may not have been in the Ukraine but Bush did appoint her to an Ambassadorship
so she was a Bush left over NOT an Obama left over
have a nice day

Again another issue that you have no understanding about, she was an Ambassador of Ukraine in 2016, Bush wasn't President then. Why do you let the left make a fool out of you

Marie Yovanovitch - Wikipedia

U.S. Ambassador to Armenia (2008–2011); Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs (2012–2013); and Ambassador to Ukraine (2016–2019).

 

[Tbird19482]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

Again another issue that you have no understanding about, she was an Ambassador of Ukraine in 2016, Bush wasn't President then. Why do you let the left make a fool out of you

Marie Yovanovitch - Wikipedia

DID Bush appoint her Ambassador or not?
He did so she is a BUSH carryover ,
and I agree in a way an Obama carryover
MY point is that it was BUSH that appointed her in the first place
have a nice day

 

[Conservative]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

DID Bush appoint her Ambassador or not?
He did so she is a BUSH carryover ,
and I agree in a way an Obama carryover
MY point is that it was BUSH that appointed her in the first place
have a nice day

Not to Ukraine which is what this is all about

 

[Tbird19482]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

Again another issue that you have no understanding about, she was an Ambassador of Ukraine in 2016, Bush wasn't President then. Why do you let the left make a fool out of you

Marie Yovanovitch - Wikipedia

I guess I should explain to more so you can understand
I agree she was not Ambassador to Ukraine when she was an Ambassador under Bush but HE did appoint her an Ambassadorship NOT Obama
Obama did transfer her to the Ukraine post
have a nice day

 

[Divine_Wind]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yo

You really buy the left wing spin, don't you? Why is that?

Don't you mean the US military and Intelligence spin since they debunked Trump's conspiracy theories. Also, are you denying that Trump took Putin's word on Russian election interference over US military and federal intelligence agencies? When did the Trump, and now the Republican party, become anti-American and pro-Russian? Mid to late 2016?

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

 

[Divine_Wind]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

Again another issue that you have no understanding about, she was an Ambassador of Ukraine in 2016, Bush wasn't President then. Why do you let the left make a fool out of you

Marie Yovanovitch - Wikipedia

DID Bush appoint her Ambassador or not?
He did so she is a BUSH carryover ,
and I agree in a way an Obama carryover
MY point is that it was BUSH that appointed her in the first place
have a nice day

Let's not forget the fact that it's common for Presidents to replace political appointees but much less common to replace career diplomats. Yovanovitch was a career diplomat.

That said, clearly the only reason to replace her was because she wouldn't go along with any drug deals or other corruption some people were pushing.

 

[year2late]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

Ambassadors serve at the pleasure of the president, in case you didn't know.

#wasted

I agree.



Then why "take her out" drama.

BTW, do we know who he said that to? Was it someone that had the authority to give her the news?

 

[Conservative]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

I guess I should explain to more so you can understand
I agree she was not Ambassador to Ukraine when she was an Ambassador under Bush but HE did appoint her an Ambassadorship NOT Obama
Obama did transfer her to the Ukraine post
have a nice day

So what? Why does that make her actions acceptable in Ukraine? Unlike you I don't support everything the candidate of my choice does. Interesting how Ukraine is such a deal now as doubt seriously that you even know where Ukraine is

 

[Conservative]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yo

Don't you mean the US military and Intelligence spin since they debunked Trump's conspiracy theories. Also, are you denying that Trump took Putin's word on Russian election interference over US military and federal intelligence agencies? When did the Trump, and now the Republican party, become anCouti-American and pro-Russian? Mid to late 2016?

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

Like Most Americans couldn't care less about Ukraine but do understand what it means to "serve at the will of the President" Guess Ukraine had nothing do with Hillary's Russian deal and invasion of Ukraine either

 

[Divine_Wind]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yo

Like Most Americans couldn't care less about Ukraine but do understand what it means to "serve at the will of the President" Guess Ukraine had nothing do with Hillary's Russian deal and invasion of Ukraine either

An interesting guess on your part. Most of my friends are retired military professionals. We do care about our oaths and those enemies, foreign and domestic, who attack our Constitution and seek to weaken our nation. I don't believe Trump is a traitor, but I do believe he is both incompetent and deluded enough to buy into BS conspiracy theories from Vladimir Putin. Sad to say, too many of Trump's follows lap that scum up too.

 

[Conservative]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yo

An interesting guess on your part. Most of my friends are retired military professionals. We do care about our oaths and those enemies, foreign and domestic, who attack our Constitution and seek to weaken our nation. I don't believe Trump is a traitor, but I do believe he is both incompetent and deluded enough to buy into BS conspiracy theories from Vladimir Putin. Sad to say, too many of Trump's follows lap that scum up too.

After 8 years of Obama how can anyone say that Trump is incompetent? That is total ignorance as incompetent people don't generate the kind of results Trump has generated. Many give these results to Obama but that is revisionist history by people who have no understanding of the private sector or leadership qualities required. Thank you for your service but doubt there are many that are going to vote for any Democrat Running for the office. Most people who buy rhetoric and ignore results don't have a lot of credibility. I served as well during the Vietnam War, My dad was at Pearl Harbor, My father in law at Normandy so we all understand that rhetoric doesn't win battles with our enemies, action and results do

 

[Divine_Wind]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yo

After 8 years of Obama how can anyone say that Trump is incompetent? That is total ignorance as incompetent people don't generate the kind of results Trump has generated. Many give these results to Obama but that is revisionist history by people who have no understanding of the private sector or leadership qualities required. Thank you for your service but doubt there are many that are going to vote for any Democrat Running for the office. Most people who buy rhetoric and ignore results don't have a lot of credibility. I served as well during the Vietnam War, My dad was at Pearl Harbor, My father in law at Normandy so we all understand that rhetoric doesn't win battles with our enemies, action and results do

First, Obama ceased being President over 3 years ago. Time to get over it and focus on the present. Continually excusing Trump's screw ups because Obama screwed up is irrational. Our nation needs competent Presidents and leaders, not people who play stupid tit-for-tat games and cover up incompetence by their respective party. If there is ignorance involved, then it's those who seek to ignore Trump's major screw ups because Obama had major screw ups.

Second, as noted in the link below Ronald Reagan wins the poll as Best President with 28% of the vote, Obama #2 at 24% and Clinton and JFK tie at 10% thus proving I'm not alone in my assessment and you in the minority. Oddly, Obama also comes in as #2 on the Worst President list with 21%. It shouldn't be a brain strain to guess who came in #1 with 41% of the vote:

Spoiler

FWIW, Nixon was #3 with 10%.

National (US) Poll - March 7, 2018 - Trump Gets Most Votes As Worst | Quinnipiac University Connecticut


https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...espect-president-trump-11.html#post1071237516

 

[calamity]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yo

After 8 years of Obama how can anyone say that Trump is incompetent? That is total ignorance as incompetent people don't generate the kind of results Trump has generated. Many give these results to Obama but that is revisionist history by people who have no understanding of the private sector or leadership qualities required. Thank you for your service but doubt there are many that are going to vote for any Democrat Running for the office. Most people who buy rhetoric and ignore results don't have a lot of credibility. I served as well during the Vietnam War, My dad was at Pearl Harbor, My father in law at Normandy so we all understand that rhetoric doesn't win battles with our enemies, action and results do

It's always a challenge to decide if Republicans are really that stupid or just super dishonest. I usually settle on a lot of both.

 

[Conservative]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yo

First, Obama ceased being President over 3 years ago. Time to get over it and focus on the present. Continually excusing Trump's screw ups because Obama screwed up is irrational. Our nation needs competent Presidents and leaders, not people who play stupid tit-for-tat games and cover up incompetence by their respective party. If there is ignorance involved, then it's those who seek to ignore Trump's major screw ups because Obama had major screw ups.

Second, as noted in the link below Ronald Reagan wins the poll as Best President with 28% of the vote, Obama #2 at 24% and Clinton and JFK tie at 10% thus proving I'm not alone in my assessment and you in the minority. Oddly, Obama also comes in as #2 on the Worst President list with 21%. It shouldn't be a brain strain to guess who came in #1 with 41% of the vote:

Spoiler

FWIW, Nixon was #3 with 10%.

National (US) Poll - March 7, 2018 - Trump Gets Most Votes As Worst | Quinnipiac University Connecticut


https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...espect-president-trump-11.html#post1071237516

You do realize this is 2020 right, not 2018?? Interesting how actual results don't resonate with you but do for the American people

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval - Economy

Are you willing to risk reversing these results all because of hatred for Trump and his personality? Respect is something I don't see a lot of today from either side but the one thing I do know is that no President in modern history has ever lost re-election with over 50% approval rating on the economy as that is the question the American people are going to have to ask themselves. Do you want to risk your financial gains by electing a Democrat who has no private sector experience and no understanding of the private sector economy all because of so called lack of respect for the President?

 

[Conservative]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yo

It's always a challenge to decide if Republicans are really that stupid or just super dishonest. I usually settle on a lot of both.

You are going to have to ask the American people if they are so stupid as to vote based upon hatred and Trump's personality vs the actual benefits they are seeing today

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval - Economy

It seems rather easy for people like you to divert from the results that are important to the American people, financial and national security. You want the focus on social issues and when you cannot get your state to act you try the legal action of removing a President you don't like and one who wants the states to have that responsibility again

 

[Tbird19482]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

So what? Why does that make her actions acceptable in Ukraine? Unlike you I don't support everything the candidate of my choice does. Interesting how Ukraine is such a deal now as doubt seriously that you even know where Ukraine is

Point was somebody said she was an Obama holdover when she was appointed by Bush NOT Obama
and yes Obama moved her to the Ukraine and kept her in her job.
Have a nice day

 

[Conservative]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

Point was somebody said she was an Obama holdover when she was appointed by Bush NOT Obama
and yes Obama moved her to the Ukraine and kept her in her job.
Have a nice day

Don't care who she was appointed by, why do you? Ambassadors serve at the "pleasure of the President" and Trump needed no reason to fire her. Another anti Trump thread that doesn't resonate with anyone other than radicals like you

 

[Divine_Wind]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yo

You do realize this is 2020 right, not 2018?? Interesting how actual results don't resonate with you but do for the American people

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval - Economy

Are you willing to risk reversing these results all because of hatred for Trump and his personality? Respect is something I don't see a lot of today from either side but the one thing I do know is that no President in modern history has ever lost re-election with over 50% approval rating on the economy as that is the question the American people are going to have to ask themselves. Do you want to risk your financial gains by electing a Democrat who has no private sector experience and no understanding of the private sector economy all because of so called lack of respect for the President?

It was the latest poll I could find. You are welcome to provide a more current one. OTOH, there is Trump's favorability rating: Presidential Approval Ratings -- Donald Trump ....which still has Donnie coming in dead last.


I don't hate, but thanks for the false accusation. I was wondering how long it would take you.

Unlike you, I don't put a paycheck in front of patriotism. My patriotism isn't for sale. YMMV.

 

[slick]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

Again another issue that you have no understanding about, she was an Ambassador of Ukraine in 2016, Bush wasn't President then. Why do you let the left make a fool out of you

Marie Yovanovitch - Wikipedia

The guy made a freakishly idiotic post, & he continues to double down on it.

Quote Originally Posted by Tbird19482 View Post
A Obama holdover?
Sorry to tell you it was Bush who appointed her NOT Obama
have a nice night

 

[ElChupacabra]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yo

You are going to have to ask the American people if they are so stupid as to vote based upon hatred and Trump's personality vs the actual benefits they are seeing today

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval - Economy

It seems rather easy for people like you to divert from the results that are important to the American people, financial and national security. You want the focus on social issues and when you cannot get your state to act you try the legal action of removing a President you don't like and one who wants the states to have that responsibility again

Yet you never address why his approval on the economy has impacted his overall poor approval rating across the board.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval

It's just pretty weird that a president sitting on a strong economy has somehow managed to be thought of poorly in every other regard. It's like being the rich kid at the party who offers to buy everyone beer, yet they still think he's a turd. I'm sure you'll pull the "no president has lost with 50% approval rating on the economy", but with his crap overall rating, I wouldn't place that bet with a large degree of confidence.

 

[Tbird19482]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

Don't care who she was appointed by, why do you? Ambassadors serve at the "pleasure of the President" and Trump needed no reason to fire her. Another anti Trump thread that doesn't resonate with anyone other than radicals like you

First of all I never said she may not have done something wrong and YES they do serve at the " pleasure of the president "
Have a nice day