"Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

[Conservative]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yo

You could stick to the talking points given to you by the administration, or begin to question why it hasn't presented any information to help end the investigation. Radical house or not, it's been in the administration's court to show that this is all a "sham". The thing is, some people parrot that talking point in spite of the questionable actions of the administration thus far.

Getting a little carried away here now, aren't you. What talking points are being given to me by the Administration? Do you realize that Congress is more than just the House. Do you think Pelosi Schiff, Nadler are in any position to be non partisan? Abuse of power??? Obstruction of Congress? Keep watching the Democratic claims going up in flames. The only questionable actions are coming from you and the left, total lack of patriotism and lack of any understanding of the rule of law. Russia loves people like you

 

[TomFitz]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

The protests at Kiev Maidan had everything to do with with the problems in discussion. It led to the coup, the overthrow of the
elected president Yanukovych, & protest leaders proceeded to take control of the government. Widespread protests against the
revolution occurred in the eastern and southern regions of Ukraine, where Yanukovych received 85% support in the 2010 presidential election.

If there was no overthrow of the elected government, there would have been no establishment of de facto independent states
in Donetsk and Luhansk. Because of the Ukranian Nationalist overthrew Yanukovich the entire Ukraine navy had “defected” in the
Crimea region, pledging allegiance to its unrecognised pro-Russian leader and surrendering the country's Sevastopol headquarters.
This was predictable as in the last real election of the entire Ukraine in 2010, Crimea voted heavily for
the Russian leaning candidate. Crimea voted Yanukovich 78.24% to Tymoshenko 17.31%. It was the eternal call of
Ethnonationalism after the coup that Crimea heard & answered.

Ukraine lost a significant portion of territory because of the coup, & Victoria Nuland was the primary mover in creating this
disaster. No coup, no breakup of Ukraine, it was primarily the swaggering goofiness of Victoria Nuland & her godforsaken
attempt to wrap Ukraine around her fingers simply backfired. If not for the coup there would have been no need for
congress to influence Trump to send 400 million to Ukraine some of that in the form of defensive weapons.

BTW, Russia has no intentions of invading Ukraine, it's a bankrupt country & they probably are more than happy that
the western powers are spending heavily to keep Ukraine afloat. Ukraine is more united without the southeastern provinces
& Crimea but consider Kharkiv & Odessa also voted heavily for Yanakovich in the last legitimate united Ukraine election,
& those critical areas are not entirely on board with the powers in Kiev & Lviv either., far from it!

Victor Yanokovich?

Moscow’s man in Kiev?

The guy Paul Manafort worked for. The same Paul Manafort who was in touch with Crazy Uncle Rudy while they were peddling this BS about about Hunter Biden.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

Recording: Trump Tells Associates To "Get Rid Of" Marie Yovanovitch, Ukraine Ambassador

This is the entire recording:

Dropbox - 2018-04-30 16.20.42.mov - Simplify your life

It was recorded as a video so the file is 4 gigs.

The stuff about Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch starts at 42 minutes.

 

[Obscurity]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

The Republic? The Republic will burn because the radical left wants the chaos that you people are perpetuating, it won't burn because of Trump, the results have made us strong and the Deep state is being destroyed.

It's going to burn because trump has made us a joke. A joke.

 

[slick]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

Victor Yanokovich?

Moscow’s man in Kiev?

The guy Paul Manafort worked for. The same Paul Manafort who was in touch with Crazy Uncle Rudy while they were peddling this BS about about Hunter Biden.

The post you responded was offered as pertinent info. It certainly wasn't intended to indulge in a verbal tug-of-war!
Did you see anything that's not fact from my post. I don't see why anyone would ever expect me to back off from the truth.


Victor Yanokovich? Moscow’s man in Kiev? That's a mere expression of prejudice.
Your inability to understand the next point is not a problem anyone else can solve.

In all but one of the elections in Ukraine since they became a sovereign nation in the early 1990's, the Russian leaning
candidate won. (They all were Moscow's men in Kiev) Way more than half the citizens in Ukraine are Slavic, tied to Russia by culture.
The anti-Russian element or Nationalists not surprisingly come from the Lviv area formerly a part of Poland & Lithuania & runs eastward to Kiev!

In the most recent election the only region who voted for Porky & against the new president was Lviv!
Ukraine is divided, east of the Dneiper is Russian based, west of the Dneiper leans toward the EU & the west.
Eastern Ukrainians for a long time consider themselves Russian & speak Russian the area currently under Rebel control was for the most part of Russia.

 

[Atomic Kid]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

The Republic? The Republic will burn because the radical left wants the chaos that you people are perpetuating, it won't burn because of Trump, the results have made us strong and the Deep state is being destroyed.

Are you kidding me. Trump's moniker ought to be Captain Chaos. You really need to spend less time watching Fox News and YouTube videos.

 

[HumblePi]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

The recording gives more support to Parnas's other assertions.

Notice how Trump uses a "Mafioso" approach to his desire to remove Yanakovich. Instead of telling her boss, Secretary of State Pompeo to do it, he tells one of his non-government mooks to "take her out." Just like Tony Soprano would have. Why?

He's a mob boss, that's how they speak. "You're fired!!" The president of the United States has the national security counsel, the US intelligence community, the State Dept who studies US and Europe relations very closely, but this audio shows quite clearly that Trump was soliciting advice from a group of wealthy donors at a fancy dinner for a handful of them in an extravagant private dining room at the Trump International Hotel. Private millionaire donors have an agenda and it's their agenda not the agenda of the United States. They're standing around lavishing praise on him. It's like a scene in the Godfather when all the mob bosses came to dine and smoke cigars with Don Corleone and kiss his ring.

But consider something else. This goes on to prove what little regard the US intelligence has for Trump because they would have not allowed "nobodies" to get that close to Obama and record him in problematic conversations and situations. But with Trump, the secret service was like "meh, let it happen". There's not a shred of doubt in my mind that the CIA heard and saw everything that transpired during that donor dinner but they won't let out anything about it.

 

[Night_Ranger]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

Are you kidding me. Trump's moniker ought to be Captain Chaos. You really need to spend less time watching Fox News and YouTube videos.

You must be joking. The left has wanted to burn this nation to the ground for decades now. Conservatives are wise the devious plan of the left to remove Trump from office before the election. And impeachment is the vehicle for achieving the end result. You can knock off the act This isn't about a phone call or recording or withholding aid. This is about removing a president who won the 2016 election in a historical landslide.

My logic?
The liberal left and the democratic party will be finished if Trump gets a second term. They will all be exposed for the frauds that they are.

 

[PoS]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

So why did he feel the need to smear her first?

Then why didnt he just do so? Why purposely get others to trash her first?

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Because he can? Seriously, there isnt a law that prevents him form doing that.

The. Why. Matters.

No it doesnt. Trump doesnt need a reason as to why.

 

[Logician Man]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

You must be joking. The left has wanted to burn this nation to the ground for decades now. Conservatives are wise the devious plan of the left to remove Trump from office before the election. And impeachment is the vehicle for achieving the end result. You can knock off the act This isn't about a phone call or recording or withholding aid. This is about removing a president who won the 2016 election in a historical landslide.

My logic?
The liberal left and the democratic party will be finished if Trump gets a second term. They will all be exposed for the frauds that they are.

please define ///historical landslide /// thanks

 

[Night_Ranger]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

please define ///historical landslide /// thanks

*electoral* historical landslide is what I should have said.

 

[uptower]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

You must be joking. The left has wanted to burn this nation to the ground for decades now. Conservatives are wise the devious plan of the left to remove Trump from office before the election. And impeachment is the vehicle for achieving the end result. You can knock off the act This isn't about a phone call or recording or withholding aid. This is about removing a president who won the 2016 election in a historical landslide.

My logic?
The liberal left and the democratic party will be finished if Trump gets a second term. They will all be exposed for the frauds that they are.

The Dems know they are very unlikely to 'win' on impeachment. The GOP led senate will do all it can to suppress evidence, ignore witness testimony and disregard facts to ultimately acquit him.

Yet they still had to do it because the president abused his office. There's no devious plan to remove him, all they can hope for is to expose him.

And when Trump wriggles out of this he'll go back to the same dirty tricks till the election and more and worse if he wins thereafter. Technically his guys are winning and America will lose big.

 

[uptower]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

Because he can? Seriously, there isnt a law that prevents him form doing that.



No it doesnt. Trump doesnt need a reason as to why.

You're arguing the wrong case. The question is not whether the president can remove an ambassador, or needs a good reason. It is whether his reasons for doing so shed light on this Ukrainian extortion. Because the president most certainly cannot extort.

 

[TomFitz]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

He's a mob boss, that's how they speak. "You're fired!!" The president of the United States has the national security counsel, the US intelligence community, the State Dept who studies US and Europe relations very closely, but this audio shows quite clearly that Trump was soliciting advice from a group of wealthy donors at a fancy dinner for a handful of them in an extravagant private dining room at the Trump International Hotel. Private millionaire donors have an agenda and it's their agenda not the agenda of the United States. They're standing around lavishing praise on him. It's like a scene in the Godfather when all the mob bosses came to dine and smoke cigars with Don Corleone and kiss his ring.

But consider something else. This goes on to prove what little regard the US intelligence has for Trump because they would have not allowed "nobodies" to get that close to Obama and record him in problematic conversations and situations. But with Trump, the secret service was like "meh, let it happen". There's not a shred of doubt in my mind that the CIA heard and saw everything that transpired during that donor dinner but they won't let out anything about it.

Trump has actually never said “You’re fired”, except to a TV camera.

He doesn’t have the stones to do it in person.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yo

Getting a little carried away here now, aren't you. What talking points are being given to me by the Administration? Do you realize that Congress is more than just the House. Do you think Pelosi Schiff, Nadler are in any position to be non partisan? Abuse of power??? Obstruction of Congress? Keep watching the Democratic claims going up in flames. The only questionable actions are coming from you and the left, total lack of patriotism and lack of any understanding of the rule of law. Russia loves people like you

:lamo

From the person who calls everyone a "leftist radical".


I think that you find nothing else questionable in what's been revealed thus far and how the administration's acted in regards to clearing up the whistleblower's complaint more telling. What doesn't change is why the administration's done absolutely nothing to address any of the issues, but instead just decided to not cooperate at all. If this were all just a sham, they could have cleared it up right away with whatever testimony and documentation at their disposal. They haven't though; why?

 

[Logician Man]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

*electoral* historical landslide is what I should have said.

What was * historical* about it ?

 

[Conservative]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

It's going to burn because trump has made us a joke. A joke.

So we are a joke because you say so and some partisan socialist asses agree with you? Doesn't appear that the American people think this is a joke

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Didn't listen to the trial yesterday did you? What is your next witch hunt going to be about?
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[Conservative]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

Are you kidding me. Trump's moniker ought to be Captain Chaos. You really need to spend less time watching Fox News and YouTube videos.

Captain chaos?? Sounds a lot like the Democratic Party leadership mantra today. There you go again FOX NEWS!!! FOX NEWS!!! FOX NEWS!!! Never anything original or never any response to the actual data presented none of which came from Fox News. Doesn't appear that you are even paying attention to the mainstream media any more. Has to be very discouraging for people like you with 24/7 Trump bashing to see your hatred destroyed by official data none of which comes from FOX NEWS

Jeffrey Toobin on impeachment trial: President Trump is winning here - CNN Video

 

[Conservative]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

The Dems know they are very unlikely to 'win' on impeachment. The GOP led senate will do all it can to suppress evidence, ignore witness testimony and disregard facts to ultimately acquit him.

Yet they still had to do it because the president abused his office. There's no devious plan to remove him, all they can hope for is to expose him.

And when Trump wriggles out of this he'll go back to the same dirty tricks till the election and more and worse if he wins thereafter. Technically his guys are winning and America will lose big.

LOL, now it is the denial of witnesses that you are going to promote not the denial of the facts. Ukraine doesn't matter to the American people nor would it with you were it not for Trump

Amazing how partisan and biased you are, almost like you are a member of the liberal elite watching your party being destroyed by the facts. 2 hours opening comments yesterday Destroyed your narrative so now we can see what you are moving on to, no witnesses. The only witnesses allowed in the House investigation were partisan liberals who still couldn't find the evidence that Trump did anything wrong. Why don't you post that evidence for us since you seem to believe it is undeniable?

 

[Conservative]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yo

:lamo

From the person who calls everyone a "leftist radical".


I think that you find nothing else questionable in what's been revealed thus far and how the administration's acted in regards to clearing up the whistleblower's complaint more telling. What doesn't change is why the administration's done absolutely nothing to address any of the issues, but instead just decided to not cooperate at all. If this were all just a sham, they could have cleared it up right away with whatever testimony and documentation at their disposal. They haven't though; why?

Whistleblower? That whistleblower was so damaging to trump that the whistleblower wasn't even called before the House, wasn't in the Articles of Impeachment. You lost, get over it!!

Jeffrey Toobin on impeachment trial: President Trump is winning here - CNN Video

You want Trump to address what issues?? Post the testimony that convicts Trump of the charges you believe violate the law? Didn't listen to the tape played yesterday did you. Listen now

Full video released of Trump discussing Ukraine ambassador’s ouster: Watch the tape | Fox News

 

[Helix]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

"Take her out" is not what an employer says when they intend to fire a subordinate. That implies something much worse.

yeah, that's not good. i saw a question asked online, and it was something like if he's the one who's going to fire her, what exactly does telling these people to "take her out" mean?

 

[MTAtech]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

So we are a joke because you say so and some partisan socialist asses agree with you? Doesn't appear that the American people think this is a joke

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval_economy-6182.html

Didn't listen to the trial yesterday did you? What is your next witch hunt going to be about?

Translation: We should accept corruption, election tampering, raping the environment, and authoritarianism because the economy happens to be good -- because the only issue that matters to some is how their 401K is doing.

Here's another poll: National poll: 54% will 'definitely not' vote for Trump - seattlepi.com

 

[ElChupacabra]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yo

Whistleblower? That whistleblower was so damaging to trump that the whistleblower wasn't even called before the House, wasn't in the Articles of Impeachment. You lost, get over it!!

Doesn't answer the question though, does it? This is the biggest "sham" the administration can't seem to prove is a sham.

 

[jpn]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yo

What is truly shocking about this video is that the President of the United States told us he didn't know Lev Parnas. And yet...

Does this mean the President of the United States can't be trusted? That he lies just to save his worthless skin?

Donald Trump, just a dirty liar?

I tell you people, I am shocked.

 

[PoS]

Re: "Take her out": Recording of Trump at dinner talking about Ukraine ambassador Marie Yovanovitch

You're arguing the wrong case. The question is not whether the president can remove an ambassador, or needs a good reason. It is whether his reasons for doing so shed light on this Ukrainian extortion. Because the president most certainly cannot extort.

Whether he did that or not still has no bearing on getting rid of the ambassador- he can do that anytime.