Socialism Destroys

[ElChupacabra]

Peppercorns aren't very tasty or easy to consume on their own, but grind and add them to other foods and they enhance the flavor.

 

[Moderate Right]

Oh but the right praises the left with sweet words of honey every chance it gets! :lamo

In other words, an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, I want to prove that I am no better than the other side while simultaneously trying to claim that I am.

 

[ataraxia]

Well what does that have to do with the Democratic Party and their policies? I think it is just evolving as a society. Remember, it is the republicans who love Liberty, and independence. They want equal rights for everyone. It is the left who has no faith in their fellow man's ability to run their own lives.

The Republican Party is the party of clinging to the past, what the euphemistically call “traditional values”. These have included misogyny, religious and ethnic bigotry, and racism.

All of the changes that have happened in society, from civil rights to gay rights, have been pushed forward by the Democratic Party. You are right that we have evolved as a society. Would you agree that that has been in a progressive manner? If so, do you want explain that to the conservative poster here who argues that there has been no progress and likes to mock the idea of social progress?

 

[ataraxia]

In other words, an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, I want to prove that I am no better than the other side while simultaneously trying to claim that I am.

Well you’re doing a pretty darn good job. But to go one further even. You poked him in the eye, and then wonder why they’re get upset and say ouch.

 

[Moderate Right]

The Republican Party is the party of clinging to the past, what the euphemistically call “traditional values”. These have included misogyny, religious and ethnic bigotry, and racism.

All of the changes that have happened in society, from civil rights to gay rights, have been pushed forward by the Democratic Party. You are right that we have evolved as a society. Would you agree that that has been in a progressive manner? If so, do you want explain that to the conservative poster here who argues that there has been no progress and likes to mock the idea of social progress?

It is the Democratic party who wants to turn back the clock on Republican advances since Trump has been president.

 

[Moderate Right]

Well you’re doing a pretty darn good job. But to go one further even. You poked him in the eye, and then wonder why they’re get upset and say ouch.

Ummmmmmmmm. It is the left who are constantly poking the right in the eye.

 

[ataraxia]

. It is the left who has no faith in their fellow man's ability to run their own lives.

Since you have so much faith in your fellow man, I challenge you to put that faith into action by first getting rid of all those oppressive big nanny government traffic lights and speed limits in your neighborhood, especially around the local elementary school. Leave your fellow citizens completely free. They’re responsible patriots, right? Let us know how your faith works out.

 

[CLAX1911]

HAHAHAHA!!!! What is it with you people and Cuba and Venezuela. That's not Democratic Socialism, that's totalitarianism.

All Democratic Socialism means is socialism where leaders are elected.

Democratic Socialism in the style of Bernie Sanders has been working very very well in Canada, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Finland, Germany, Australia....

Denmark Norway Sweden and Finland are not Democratic socialists. Their model is called Nordic capitalism there is a market economy.

In fact, if you look at rankings of countries in the world by their quality of life you'll find that every country that's ahead of America has policies very similar to what Bernie Sanders is advocating for. You can quit with the Venezuela and Cuba crap they're not comparable at all.

So stop using examples of socialism to describe socialism. Instead use capitalism to describe it... Okay.

 

[ataraxia]

Ummmmmmmmm. It is the left who are constantly poking the right in the eye.

So what body part was being poked with six years straight of hearing about Obama’s secret Kenyan birth certificate?

 

[ataraxia]

All Democratic Socialism means is socialism where leaders are elected.

Denmark Norway Sweden and Finland are not Democratic socialists. Their model is called Nordic capitalism there is a market economy.

So stop using examples of socialism to describe socialism. Instead use capitalism to describe it... Okay.

If Denmark, Norway, and Sweden, are not social democracies, which is what they describe themselves, what would you call them? “Nordic capitalism” is just a type of social democracy. If you don’t like the term social democracy, we can call it Nordic capitalism if you prefer. Whatever. As the line from the movie when Harry Met Sally goes, I’ll have what she’s having. Call it whatever you like. Whatever makes you comfortable.

 

[CLAX1911]

If Denmark, Norway, and Sweden, or not social democracies, which is what they describe themselves, what would you call them? There is no such thing as Nordic capitalism.

Nazi Germany described itself as a socialism were they?

The Nordic countries have a market based economy. They are not socialist regardless of the adjective you place in front of it.

 

[ataraxia]

Nazi Germany described itself as a socialism were they?

The Nordic countries have a market based economy. They are not socialist regardless of the adjective you place in front of it.

LOL, so is the peoples Republic of China or the Republic of North Korea actually republics? Is the Islamic Republic of Iran actually a republic? Should we get rid of the idea of a republic in our own country too just because these countries name themselves that?

 

[RileyCoyote]

Since you have so much faith in your fellow man, I challenge you to put that faith into action by first getting rid of all those oppressive big nanny government traffic lights and speed limits in your neighborhood, especially around the local elementary school. Leave your fellow citizens completely free. They’re responsible patriots, right? Let us know how your faith works out.

Don't be ridiculous. Is this the best example you could come up with for wanting the government ruling our lives?

 

[CLAX1911]

LOL, so is the peoples Republic of China or the Republic of North Korea actually republics? Is the Islamic Republic of Iran actually a republic? Should we get rid of the idea of a republic in our own country too just because these countries name themselves that?

What?

The Nordic countries still aren't socialist, despite whatever you were trying to get at here.

 

[ataraxia]

Don't be ridiculous. Is this the best example you could come up with for wanting the government ruling our lives?

What’s ridiculous is thinking you can have faith in your fellow man to always do the right thing, without any rules or regulations.

 

[ataraxia]

What?

The Nordic countries still aren't socialist, despite whatever you were trying to get at here.

Well, that’s what they’re like to call themselves. Sorry you disapprove. If you really dislike the term that much, we can leave it out. Whatever you wanna call it, that’s what Bernie Sanders is talking about. That’s all. Like I said, it’s like the line from the movie When Harry Met Sally. I’ll have what she’s having. Call it what you like.

 

[Ikari]

I also own a business and the left's fight for $15 would have put me out of business so I was terrified in thinking Hillary would win. Ironically, if the minimum wage were raised to $15 per hour mostly only the huge corporations like Walmart, McDonalds, et al would survive. Many small businesses would go under.

Thats pretty much the end game of Trade War too. Good to see that no matter who we put in, we end in the same place...

 

[CLAX1911]

Well, that’s what they’re like to call themselves.

As you pointed out China and North Korea call themselves republics. As I pointed out Nazis called themselves socialist. They can call themselves outerspace crab fishermen if they want. It doesn't mean they are.

Sorry you disapprove.

It's really weak sauce when you project emotions onto others. It isn't about me it's simply factually incorrect.

If you really dislike the term that much, we can leave it out. Whatever you wanna call it, that’s what Bernie Sanders is talking about. That’s all.

Again it isn't personal. Bernie is a socialist the Nordic countries are capitalist with a market based economy. So no it isn't.

Like I said, it’s like the line from the movie When Harry Met Sally. I’ll have what she’s having. Call it what you like.

I'm attempting to straighten out a misunderstanding you are having. If you think Sanders is talking about Nordic style capitalism I'm afraid you are gravely mistaken on his views.

 

[RileyCoyote]

What’s ridiculous is thinking you can have faith in your fellow man to always do the right thing, without any rules or regulations.

Huh? Who said we don't need rules and regulations? I mean, except for those on the left who don't want law or borders.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Well, that’s what they’re like to call themselves. Sorry you disapprove. If you really dislike the term that much, we can leave it out. Whatever you wanna call it, that’s what Bernie Sanders is talking about. That’s all. Like I said, it’s like the line from the movie When Harry Met Sally. I’ll have what she’s having. Call it what you like.

Wow.

Do you understand the difference between 'social democracy and 'democratic socialism'?

 

[dex4974]

If you think Sanders is talking about Nordic style capitalism I'm afraid you are gravely mistaken on his views.

Bernie in his long career as a politician has never once advocated for anything that the Nordic countries are not already doing. You are either ignorant or dishonest. Bernie is not in favor of ending private property and business. I could find you a million clips of him saying he wants to emulate the Nordic models.

 

[CLAX1911]

Bernie in his long career as a politician has never once advocated for anything that the Nordic countries are not already doing.

never once huh? Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

You are either ignorant or dishonest.

You must like Sanders.

Bernie is not in favor of ending private property and business.

So he says

 

[dex4974]

never once huh? Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Dude, he basically ran his entire campaign on "Yo, let's do what they do in Europe. That **** looks dope." He has spent decades urging congress and the public to emulate the Scandinavian models. He's not trying to turn us into Cuba. You clearly haven't spent much time listening to the man speak.

You must like Sanders.

I voted for him.

So he says

Yes, and so says his decades of consistency in politics.

 

[CLAX1911]

Dude, he basically ran his entire campaign on "Yo, let's do what they do in Europe.

That was stupid.

That **** looks dope." He has spent decades urging congress and the public to emulate the Scandinavian models. He's not trying to turn us into Cuba. You clearly haven't spent much time listening to the man speak.

Lol.

I voted for him.

I would have never guessed.

Yes, and so says his decades of consistency in politics.

Yeah.

 

[dex4974]

That was stupid. Lol.



I would have never guessed.




Yeah.

Is this supposed to be a response? You are straight up wrong about Bernie Sanders. Are you going to be a man and own it, or will you keep spouting off nonsense?