So I have 2 Dates today

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Yeah, not following you, brother. She hooks up with other guys, which doesn't bother me and we both tell each other about our dating "adventures". I consider myself a pretty good judge of someone's intentions and until this morning I've never got anything else from her other than positive vibes about we just being friends.

I love women. A lot. I guess I will just never ever completely understand them.

Ahhhh, she is telling you HER dating adventures?? Hmmm, she *might* just be trying to get you to bite the hook and do something romantical about all those tall tales. I could be flat out wrong but it is possible she is not dating ANYBODY and just telling you some tall tales to goad you into wanting her to stop and take up with you exclusively.

Again, women tell these little white lies sometimes, it just is what it is. Don't expect it to make sense.

 

[Superfly]

Then she's gonna have to deal with the mechanical maintenance on that hunk of junk.

Yeah I had a few mini vans when my kids were growing up. Glad we all grew out of those. They were terrible.

 

[lurchadams]

She also dumped you. Said she didn't want to be with you anymore.

People change. Many women say they don't want kids, until they do.

So you're saying between last night and this morning her feelings about having kids changed? By the way, we'd have to adopt - me no can make babies no more - snip, snip, hooray!

 

[Superfly]

I did not/have not "rejected" her! There's been no overture to reject!

No, honey - never said you did. But she might be afraid that you will reject her.

Imagining you rejecting her is as bad as you actually rejecting her.

Look. I don't understand women, and I am one. I'm just reading it from a woman's point of view.

 

[Logician Man]

She also dumped you. Said she didn't want to be with you anymore.

People change. Many women say they don't want kids, until they do.

Soooooo Superfly...Is the fact I've been with my wife for 54 years ( married 47 1/2 years ) make me old-fashioned ?

 

[lurchadams]

Ahhhh, she is telling you HER dating adventures?? Hmmm, she *might* just be trying to get you to bite the hook and do something romantical about all those tall tales. I could be flat out wrong but it is possible she is not dating ANYBODY and just telling you some tall tales to goad you into wanting her to stop and take up with you exclusively.

Again, women tell these little white lies sometimes, it just is what it is. Don't expect it to make sense.

Wow! Maybe we should continue this thread in CT! She hooks up with other guys. She wouldn't lie to me about that. I'm certain of it. Her honesty with when she purvey's either good or bad news is one of the reasons I like being around her.

 

[PLizzy]

She also dumped you. Said she didn't want to be with you anymore.

People change. Many women say they don't want kids, until they do.

And many women say they don't want anal sex, until they do.

:2dancing:

 

[Superfly]

So you're saying between last night and this morning her feelings about having kids changed? By the way, we'd have to adopt - me no can make babies no more - snip, snip, hooray!

Yeah, that snip, snip, hooray is entirely reversible. :lol: And if you love her enough (not this girl, necessarily, but when the right one comes along), you'll do it.

And maybe she just said she didn't want kids just to "feel you out" on the subject.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Women don't bang someone, dump them, then keep having sex with them because they want to be friends.

Sure, women wanna be players and just have a good screw, just as we do at times. But, they don't have sex with friends they don't secretly desire to get more serious with. I'm not saying she wants to marry you, but she clearly is attracted to you romantically beyond just the sex.

It depends on their age and your age, and the emotional age of both.
Younger women sometimes are too wrapped up with angst and stress and figuring themselves out and they can't get it together but there are younger women who are all "screw it, I am young and want adventure so I'm up for just about anything" and they'll figure it all out later and let the chips fall where they may.

And then there are the older women, the cougars. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt, got married, even raised some kids, now out on their own and they just want to do all the wild and crazy stuff they didn't do when they were younger. Look out, this is where it gets intense.

 

[Superfly]

Soooooo Superfly...Is the fact I've been with my wife for 54 years ( married 47 1/2 years ) make me old-fashioned ?

Yes, and I think it's lovely. Also, your wife is a saint. Any woman is, who picks up her man's Underoos for almost 48 years.

 

[lurchadams]

Yeah, that snip, snip, hooray is entirely reversible. :lol: And if you love her enough (not this girl, necessarily, but when the right one comes along), you'll do it.

And maybe she just said she didn't want kids just to "feel you out" on the subject.

To the bolded: Not mine. I went the "cheap" route and chose the irreversible one. She does not want kids, I'm telling you!!

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Well, if she wants to keep being intimate with me I'm fine with that. I'm fine with our just being friends as well. I guess when things calm down a little I'll just ask her to "pick a lane" and lets just stay in it.

Be very sweet about it, I'm sure you will be but I felt compelled to just "say the words". Just be really charming about it.
You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Or not.

 

[PLizzy]

No, honey - never said you did. But she might be afraid that you will reject her.

Imagining you rejecting her is as bad as you actually rejecting her.

Look. I don't understand women, and I am one. I'm just reading it from a woman's point of view.

Yeah, if there's one thing women fear most, it's rejection of any kind.

That's usually reserved for us males. :lol:

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Well, then you just contradicted yourself. You told me that women don't hook up without their wanting more out of it than just a hookup. You're not helping, Dude!

That wasn't me. Go back and scroll up again.
And in any case, women fall into a bunch of different groups. There is no set rule of thumb.

 

[PLizzy]

It depends on their age and your age, and the emotional age of both.
Younger women sometimes are too wrapped up with angst and stress and figuring themselves out and they can't get it together but there are younger women who are all "screw it, I am young and want adventure so I'm up for just about anything" and they'll figure it all out later and let the chips fall where they may.

And then there are the older women, the cougars. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt, got married, even raised some kids, now out on their own and they just want to do all the wild and crazy stuff they didn't do when they were younger. Look out, this is where it gets intense.

Older women are the titties.

Less bull****, less childish games, less signals, and more explicit declarations, blow-jobs, and fun. :mrgreen:

 

[Superfly]

Yeah, if there's one thing women fear most, it's rejection of any kind.

That's usually reserved for us males. :lol:

I told my husband the other day - I could have never been a dude. I have this terrible fear of rejection, and I'd never be able to walk up to a woman and ask her out. Women can be bitches (especially if they are with their friends) and I could just imagine being destroyed by these women as I walked away.

Nope, not me.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Well, then you just contradicted yourself. You told me that women don't hook up without their wanting more out of it than just a hookup. You're not helping, Dude!

Oh wait, is it THIS post?

Yeah, I might be full of crap, because some women are wired that way, just not a lot of them.
And it depends on where things are going anyway.
If it's a serious thing, a lot of women will not come right out and tell you what they're thinking.

Don't make the mistake of thinking I am some expert, believe me, I am just as flummoxed as you are, and I have enjoyed every minute of it.

 

[Superfly]

Older women are the titties.

Less bull****, less childish games, less signals, and more explicit declarations, blow-jobs, and fun. :mrgreen:

It's cause we are old enough to like die at any second, and we want to have fun while we can.

 

[lurchadams]

Be very sweet about it, I'm sure you will be but I felt compelled to just "say the words". Just be really charming about it.
You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Or not.

I've never been accused of "not being sweet" so I think we're pretty safe there. Honestly, what I said this morning I really thought would make her feel better because I truly felt she'd be worried I was trying to "latch onto" her again. It instead had the opposite effect which is what is perplexing me now.

 

[Logician Man]

Yes, and I think it's lovely. Also, your wife is a saint. Any woman is, who picks up her man's Underoos for almost 48 years.

Yes indeedy..Actually she is an angel. Some of the stuff she's put up with at times and her life long legacy of humility,sacrifices, humbleness, nurturing, and 'all give, no take' still has me and the entire family ( all 4 generations ) shaking our collective heads.....I'm quite the lucky guy! ( major understatement )

 

[lurchadams]

That wasn't me. Go back and scroll up again.
And in any case, women fall into a bunch of different groups. There is no set rule of thumb.

Oops. Sorry. Did I mention I like M.J.?

 

[lurchadams]

Oh wait, is it THIS post?

Yeah, I might be full of crap, because some women are wired that way, just not a lot of them.
And it depends on where things are going anyway.
If it's a serious thing, a lot of women will not come right out and tell you what they're thinking.

Don't make the mistake of thinking I am some expert, believe me, I am just as flummoxed as you are, and I have enjoyed every minute of it.

But Superfly's here and she's not helping. She's just making me feel worse! Just give me the rulebook and I promise to follow it!

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

She friend-zoned you. :lol:

After banging me like there was no tomorrow and telling me she forgot how good I was?
Yeah okay, I guess I enjoy being friend-zoned that way.

But one little minor detail, where's the friend part?
We've shared maybe twenty words since 1986.
Of course I'm married and so is she, so maybe she's just all into her hubby, which would be sweet.

The mutual female friend and I are very close, have been for a long time, and her and I had a little "thing" for a short while too, which I don't think the old flame knows about, or maybe she does? Oh crap, I bet she does LOL...so it could be that she isn't being friendly because she might think I will share with our mutual female friend. (the one she had that big blowup with)

Oh, by the way, that mutual female friend I am close with? SHE had a long affair with one of my best friends and HE never told me about it but SHE did, and I've never ever broken her confidence over it. She was head over heels for my best friend but my best friend couldn't handle the seriousness of it and broke it off, or let's just say he sort of made it impossible for HER to move it beyond where things were.

Talk about JUICY GOSSIP!!! :lamo

She too is now married and my best friend is forever single, but I think he is okay with that.
He is one handsome dude and I am sure he has NO trouble with the ladies even now as an old man. He still is quite a good looking old fart.
In fact, I've always been jealous that he aged better than I did haha.

(I'm on the right, circa 1984)



He hasn't changed all that much, I'm fatter, balder and generally more decrepit LOL.

 

[PLizzy]

I told my husband the other day - I could have never been a dude. I have this terrible fear of rejection, and I'd never be able to walk up to a woman and ask her out. Women can be bitches (especially if they are with their friends) and I could just imagine being destroyed by these women as I walked away.

Nope, not me.

A lot of it comes down to eventually learning to love yourself enough that it's not the end of the world if you get rejected.

Athletes deal with the fear of loss all the time - it's a similar fear. In the end they handle the pressure by simply accepting the fact that you lose in life far more than you win, but somewhere down the road fate will in some way make things right for you - though you have to position yourself for it to happen.

And I also think we men just ... learn to say **** it.

OTOH, I don't see how women put-up with the weirdos and wackos, and all the creeps that grab their ass in crowds.

 

[PLizzy]

It's cause we are old enough to like die at any second, and we want to have fun while we can.

And that's why you chickies like sex more.

It's a good workout for your heart. :2razz: