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Sexual Politics

Angel said:
Only one who did not read the OPs of the three threads could post something is uninformed as this. You're on a roll, David.
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That is the gist of your three threads. They all fail as an analysis of American culture regarding sexuality.
 
Topic Mnemonic​

Angel said:
Sexual Politics
From Eve and Adam to Harvey Weinstein
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Has sex become politicized in the last sixty years?

Or has sex always been political?

Has it become too politicized then, say in the last thirty years?

Does the politicization of sexual relations bode ill for sexual relations? Bode well? Or are you past caring about "the battle of the sexes"?

Or has politics outweighed nature in the balance?

Is it the case that the more politicized sexual relations have become, the more distant from natural relations have we become?

Is sex as mankind has known and enjoyed it from time immemorial over?

What do you think? ​
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“Coitus can scarcely be said to take place in a vacuum; although of itself it appears a biological and physical activity, it is set so deeply within the larger context of human affairs that it serves as a charged microcosm of the variety of attitudes and values to which culture subscribes. Among other things, it may serve as a model of sexual politics on an individual or personal plane.”
― Kate Millett, Sexual Politics
Kate Millett Quotes (Author of Sexual Politics)
 
^^^^^
There you have it! From the reed pen of feminism's Tenth Muse circa 1970.
American sexual culture would never be the same again.
Feminist politics increasingly made estranged bedfellows for the next half-century.
 
Angel said:
Topic MnemonicHas sex become politicized in the last sixty years?

Or has sex always been political?

Has it become too politicized then, say in the last thirty years?

Does the politicization of sexual relations bode ill for sexual relations? Bode well? Or are you past caring about "the battle of the sexes"?

Or has politics outweighed nature in the balance?

Is it the case that the more politicized sexual relations have become, the more distant from natural relations have we become?

Is sex as mankind has known and enjoyed it from time immemorial over?

What do you think?​
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Yes, No use to mean No...now it appears to mean a myriad of nuanced things.
 
The Madwoman of Minnesota

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Do you recognize this woman?

She is responsible for the way you think

about men and women

and the whole story of civilization.


She has had more influence over the way you think

than Buddha or Socrates or Jesus...


But the simple truth of the matter is

she was a miserable person.


And in the course of the last fifty years

her misery has been made

The American Misery.


How do like them egg-rolls, Mr. Goldstone?​
 
devildavid said:
That is the gist of your three threads. They all fail as an analysis of American culture regarding sexuality.
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Demonic forces are moving wicked Americans to change American culture toward evil for the purpose of eliminating Christian influence. Call it or see it however you like.
 
Camille Paglia​

In the beginning was nature. The background from which and against which our ideas of God were formed, nature remains the supreme moral problem. We cannot hope to understand sex and gender until we clarify our attitude toward nature. Sex is a subset to nature. Sex is the natural in man.... Society is a system of inherited forms reducing our humiliating passivity to nature. We may alter these forms, slowly or suddenly, but no change in society will change nature.... Sexuality and eroticism are the intricate intersection of nature and culture. Feminists grossly oversimplify the problem of sex when they reduce it a matter of social convention: readjust society, eliminate sexual inequality, purify sex roles, and happiness and harmony will reign. Here feminism, like all liberal movements of the past two hundred years, is heir to Rousseau.... Feminism has exceeded its proper mission of seeking political equality for women and has ended by rejecting contingency, that is, human limitation by nature or fate.... Sex cannot be understood because nature cannot be understood.

One of feminism’s irritating reflexes is its fashionable disdain for “patriarchal society,” to which nothing good is ever attributed. But it is patriarchal society that has freed me as a woman. It is capitalism that has given me the leisure to sit at this desk writing this book. Let us stop being small-minded about men and freely acknowledge what treasures their obsessiveness has poured into culture.

--Sexual Personae: Art and Decadence from Nefertiti to Emily Dickinson (1990)
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Camille Paglia - Wikiquote
 
Angel said:
^^^^^
There you have it! From the reed pen of feminism's Tenth Muse circa 1970.
American sexual culture would never be the same again.
Feminist politics increasingly made estranged bedfellows for the next half-century.
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I think I found the source of your clever conceit, Angel.

"Radical feminist politics makes estranged bedfellows."
--Angel Trismegistus, Baby Boom Or Bust (2020)​

Am I right?
 
For those who have not read Kate Millet's Sexuak Politics, a detailed summary is provided here:

Sexual Politics Summary
Sexual Politics (1970) is a non-fiction book by American author and activist Kate Millett based on her PhD dissertation. Millett argues that sex has a frequently neglected political aspect. She explores the role patriarchy plays in sexual relations, especially those between men and women. She focuses on the work of famous authors, including D.H. Lawrence, Henry Miller, and Norman Mailer, looking at the way they view and discuss sex through a traditional male filter. She also explores some newer, alternative, authors, and looks at the work of famous psychologists who explored concepts of sex including Sigmund Freud. Exploring themes of sexual discrimination, alternative sexualities, and the sociopolitical underpinnings of gender discrimination, Sexual Politics is considered one of the first works of radical feminism and was largely influenced by Simone De Beauvoir’s 1949 book The Second Sex. Many of Millett’s assessments are controversial to this day, although it is still widely read and was most recently reissued in 2016.
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Read the summary here:
Sexual Politics Summary | SuperSummary
 
Angel said:
I think I found the source of your clever conceit, Angel.

"Radical feminist politics makes estranged bedfellows."
--Angel Trismegistus, Baby Boom Or Bust (2020)​

Am I right?
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Takes off from the iconic saying, "Politics makes strange bedfellows," yes.
 
Who was it said that man is a political animal? Is nature political? Or only human nature?
 
Thesis: civilization opposes nature; feminism opposes civilization.
Human being is today two removes from its own reality and reveling in its unnaturalness as never before.
 
Is Civilization Natural?
So, there's the city and then there's the country, the built environment and the wilderness, nature and civilization. Whatever name the dichotomy goes by, we usually think of the world humans create and the world outside their creations as separate and unequal.

But as we enter the Anthropocene — an era in which human activity represents a principle driver of planetary changes — it may be time to rethink this ancient polarity. It's a question that has more than academic importance.
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Is Civilization Natural? : 13.7: Cosmos And Culture : NPR

Lecture Notes: Freud, Civilization and Its Discontents
Civilization diminishes the liberty and freedom of the individual. We mistakenly believe that social institutions promote and protect our liberties, but in fact they limit them and hence are the cause of considerable displeasure.
c. The conditions of civilization demand from us renunciation of instinct; as we know from Freud's theory, this is the most difficult thing for human beings to do because we are inherently egocentric and driven toward the satisfaction of our instincts. Moreover, Freud believes these renunciations can come back to haunt us; they can recur in pathological forms as the "return of the repressed."
d. Civilization places limitations on sexuality; it not only dictates what forms of sexual expression are "permissible," and censors all others, but it even places strict restrictions on the forms of sexuality it allows. E.g., society insists on monogamy, faithfulness to a single partner, it limits sexual expression according to gender roles, etc.
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Freud, Civilization and Its Discontents


Patriarchy, Civilization, And The Origins Of Gender

Civilization, very fundamentally, is the history of the domination of nature and of women. Patriarchy means rule over women and nature. Are the two institutions at base synonymous?
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Patriarchy, Civilization, And The Origins Of Gender | The Anarchist Library


What you think about evolution and human nature may be wrong
There was more sexual freedom and mating behavior for all ages, yet EP [Evolutionary Psychology] assumes a scenario like today's of restriction and competition, and an emphasis on the timing of first sexual behavior. There was cooperative breeding and childrearing, yet EP assumes mate competition and male desire to control female reproduction to ensure genetic dominance.

n HGSB [small-band hunter-gatherer], sexual relations seemed to be widespread with experimentation at all ages. As with our bonobo cousins, individuals did not wait for the right fertile mate. Sexual relations were more about pleasure. There is no evidence to show that males were concerned about whose child was theirs, but evidence to the contrary.
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What you think about evolution and human nature may be wrong | Psychology Today
 
It's become about demons and fire, and I am scared of it.
 
Lucy, Say
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"Feminism is bunkum."

Lucy A
Nature's Avatar of Sexual Wisdom​
 
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