Sexual Politics

[Angel]

If the offense rises to the level of a crime, report it at once to the proper authorities. If the offense does not rise to the level of a crime, then deal with it privately.
What you don't do is form a lunch mob.

That is to say, lynch mob.
Oy!

 

[Angel]

#MeToo Movement Methodology ​

 

[devildavid]

If the offense rises to the level of a crime, report it at once to the proper authorities. If the offense does not rise to the level of a crime, then deal with it privately.
What you don't do is form a lunch mob.

How does a victim "settle" it privately? You miss the underlying problem. Offenses by those in power are not taken seriously in their organizations. The only way to resolve the issue is to make it public. It becomes the only recourse to put a stop to the offensive behavior.

 

[Angel]

How does a victim "settle" it privately? You miss the underlying problem. Offenses by those in power are not taken seriously in their organizations. The only way to resolve the issue is to make it public. It becomes the only recourse to put a stop to the offensive behavior.

"Settle" is your word.

 

[Angel]

...It becomes the only recourse to put a stop to the offensive behavior.

So you deplore sexual objectification then, yes?

 

[devildavid]

"Settle" is your word.

So what? How do they privately resolve the problem that is hidden by its very privacy if the offending party holds the upper hand?

 

[devildavid]

So you deplore sexual objectification then, yes?

What does my opinion have to do with the broad claim of the OP?

Maybe you need to look harder to see where the true hypocrisy is.

 

[Angel]

So what? How do they privately resolve the problem that is hidden by its very privacy if the offending party holds the upper hand?

Just to remind you: we're not talking about criminal offense here. So there's no recourse to law.
Private non-criminal offense is just that, a private offense, and ought to be dealt with privately, even if this means in the privacy of one's own heart and mind.
I'm offended by the stupidity and insincerity and selfishness of my neighbors. I have two choices: confront them or learn to live with the offense.

 

[Angel]

What does my opinion have to do with the broad claim of the OP?

Maybe you need to look harder to see where the true hypocrisy is.

Get personal and we're done, yes?
You're confusing two different OPs of two different threads in your post.

 

[Angel]

Topic Mnemonic
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Sexual Politics
From Eve and Adam to Harvey Weinstein

Has sex become politicized in the last sixty years?

Or has sex always been political?

Has it become too politicized then, say in the last thirty years?

Does the politicization of sexual relations bode ill for sexual relations? Bode well? Or are you past caring about "the battle of the sexes"?

Or has politics outweighed nature in the balance?

Is it the case that the more politicized sexual relations have become, the more distant from natural relations have we become?

Is sex as mankind has known and enjoyed it from time immemorial over?

What do you think? ​

 

[devildavid]

Get personal and we're done, yes?
You're confusing two different OPs of two different threads in your post.

All your OP's look the same to me.

 

[Angel]

All your OP's look the same to me.

This explains why your posts want a certain perspicacity perhaps, yes?

 

[Angel]

Anyone notice Adam looks like a young Sly Stallone?

In the role of Stud in The Party at Kitty and Stud's (1970), in infamous particular, yes.

 

[Angel]

That's not bad advice. But sometimes they are related to you. You can't help but be involved in it.

It's one thing to say " forget about your mother, father, brothers, and sisters" it's not that easy to do it.

So when the busybodies are just random idiots you have no real connection with outside of working with them or going to school with them sure I agree 100%. When they are your closest family... It's not so easy.

Some writer, I can't remember who, once said on national TV, I can't remember which show, The Dick Cavett Show maybe, that family is an emotional garbage dump.

 

[Angel]

The New Politics of Sex: The Sexual Revolution, Civil Liberties, and the Growth of Governmental Power

What Newsweek calls "the politics of sex" is a force far greater than campaigns to recognize same-sex marriage, liberalize abortion, or admit women and homosexuals to military combat. These debates represent only the tip of a much larger trend, the full dimensions and implications of which we are only now beginning to comprehend.

Political scientist Stephen Baskerville argues that at issue is nothing less than the emergence of a new political ideology. It derives its claims to political power from neither economic relations nor ethnicity or race, but from the control of sexuality. Until very recently, scholars and journalists were reluctant to analyze this new phenomenon with any depth or detachment, preferring to avert their eyes for fear of the repercussions. But drawing upon a growing body of scholarship and journalism, Baskerville goes behind slogans of left and right to examine its background and highlight the unmistakable trends that are now emerging. His new work is essential to understanding the impact of this ideology not only on the family and other social institutions, but also on the machinery of government, the criminal justice system, and the global political environment.

https://www.amazon.com/New-Politics-Sex-Revolution-Governmental/dp/1621382877

‘The New Politics Of Sex’ Explains How Sexual Libertinism Grows Government
'New Politics Of Sex' Explains How Sexual Libertinism Grows Government

 

[Angel]

The Politics of Sex at Universities
Cases can be closed by firing faculty, but conversations shouldn't be

To return to my theme, as in contemporary politics, there are crucial divides among good people about how we understand, and respond to, the politics of sex across lines of status and power. This has been brought into sharp relief in higher education recently, as Title IX (a federal law that regulates gender equity in schools that rely on federal funding, which is almost all of them) has merged incompletely, and confusingly for some, with sexual harassment law (civil codes that define and punish unwanted sexual advances in the workplace) and felony sexual assault on campus.

Other than creating a new kind of job (the Title IX coordinator, whose task is to locate and remediate gender discrimination) this new use of Title IX has had two major implications for adjudicating sexual conflict on campus. The first is that a variety of actions associated with sexual violence and harassment (groping, coercion, verbal abuse, flirting, shunning and stalking, to name a few) are now understood to induce diminished self-confidence, depression, and anxiety — even in the absence of rape. As importantly, these psychological states are now recognized as barriers to accessing the educational resources of the university.

The Politics of Sex at Universities | Public Seminar

 

[Angel]

How does a victim "settle" it privately? You miss the underlying problem. Offenses by those in power are not taken seriously in their organizations. The only way to resolve the issue is to make it public. It becomes the only recourse to put a stop to the offensive behavior.

In what way is your "underlying problem" problematic? That is to say, why need what I personally find offensive to be taken seriously by others?

 

[The Auditor]

The New Politics of Sex: The Sexual Revolution, Civil Liberties, and the Growth of Governmental Power


https://www.amazon.com/New-Politics-Sex-Revolution-Governmental/dp/1621382877

‘The New Politics Of Sex’ Explains How Sexual Libertinism Grows Government
'New Politics Of Sex' Explains How Sexual Libertinism Grows Government

The article is just plain stupid. For starters, it mixes up a variety of feminist figures, and acts surprised when they contradict each other. Many parts of it- such as the "big business socialism" section- are plainly nonsensical.

 

[Angel]

The article is just plain stupid. For starters, it mixes up a variety of feminist figures, and acts surprised when they contradict each other. Many parts of it- such as the "big business socialism" section- are plainly nonsensical.

Welcome to DP.
What's your take on the politics of sex?

 

[The Auditor]

Sexual Politics
From Eve and Adam to Harvey Weinstein

Has sex become politicized in the last sixty years? No

Or has sex always been political?Yes

Has it become too politicized then, say in the last thirty years? No

Does the politicization of sexual relations bode ill for sexual relations? no Bode well? no Or are you past caring about "the battle of the sexes"? no

Or has politics outweighed nature in the balance? no

Is it the case that the more politicized sexual relations have become, the more distant from natural relations have we become? yes- sorta

Is sex as mankind has known and enjoyed it from time immemorial over? no

What do you think? ​

My response to the OP above (I placed a response after each question).

 

[Angel]

Or has sex always been political? Yes

Or has politics outweighed nature in the balance? no

Is it the case that the more politicized sexual relations have become, the more distant from natural relations have we become? yes- sorta

The reddened text (my addition) indicates your answers to OP questions.

How do you reconcile these three answers, I wonder? What, on your view, is the relation between nature and politics?

 

[Angel]

 

[devildavid]

What if a man desires ice cream?

 

[devildavid]

In what way is your "underlying problem" problematic? That is to say, why need what I personally find offensive to be taken seriously by others?

It has nothing to do with what any individual finds offensive and everything to do with actual offenses against a victim.

 

[Angel]

What if a man desires ice cream?

Or rutabaga?