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Renewable Energy and Electric Cars Pressure Oil Economically as Well as Environmentally

Lord of Planar said:
I pointed out before, you cannot legally upscale to that 10 minutes for the size of a car battery pack. If I recall, in another thread that link was posted, it requires more than three times the USA safety threshold of 125 KVA charging. The Tesla superchargers have a charging limit of 120 KVA in the USA.
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Can you show the sources for that?
 
Jack Hays said:
[h=3]Tesla Stock Is Down After the Cybertruck Launch. Here's Why ...[/h]
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7 hours ago - ... be missing the point: $39990. The base-level Cybertruck price is under $40000. That's a big achievement and shows that Tesla is making progress on battery costs. ... After the Truck Launch. Here's Why That's Plain Wrong.
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LOL this was hilarious :lol:

Tesla smashes '''bulletproof''' pickup truck'''s windows with a metal ball

Tesla unveiled its futuristic pickup truck at a promotional event in Los Angeles, but when it came to showing off the vehicle's durability, things didn't quite go as planned.

CEO Elon Musk claimed the car was "bulletproof" against a 9mm handgun. But when he got Tesla's chief designer to throw a metal ball at one of its armored windows, audible surprise could be heard as the glass smashed — twice.

"Oh my f------ God," Musk exclaimed when it first happened. "Well, maybe that was a little too hard."

Design lead Franz Von Holzhausen gave it another shot, this time with another window. Again, the ball cracked the glass pretty badly.
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Bergslagstroll said:
Ford will launch a electric Mustang next year.

Finally, an Exciting Electric Car for the Rest of Us | Outside Online

There are also a plans for a new battery that can be charged in ten minutes.

EV Battery Charges in 10 Minutes | Electric Vehicle Batteries

That can be good for the times you go a long trips. While most of the time the battery can be charged at home over night or at the work.
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The battery that charges in 10 minutes pretty far off. You should really read these kind of articles with a skeptical mind.

There's a few things in the popular Mechanics article that throw some red flags. First the idea that you can charge a battery in 10 minutes using their method without doing any damage to it is absurd. In fact if you linked to the articles that it references you'll see that the method talks about minimal damage.

The people that want an electric car are going to buy one, I think more people are opening up to the idea but I still think it's a very niche market, and it will have to be until we can develop more power plants for the demand of electricity that it's going to take to charge these things. And also the upgrade infrastructure but we have to do before we can put more stress on our grid.

I don't know why you think electricity is more green it is not. They burn things or cause radioactive reactions to make it.
 
Bergslagstroll said:
Great advancement in renewables, batteries and other technologies.

Bill Gates-backed solar startup announces major breakthrough - Electrek
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I've read several articles on this and I haven't seen the megawatt output so it seems really fishy.
Fossil-free steel takes 'important step' with H2 pilot storage tank | Recharge
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they're going to store pressurized hydrogen underground? You don't see any danger in that?
Report: Levelized Cost of Energy for Lithium-Ion Batteries Is Plummeting | Greentech Media

6 Promising Energy Storage Options to Tie into the Grid | Power Electronics
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I've heard some things about a solid-state battery but it's pretty distant. Otherwise batteries aren't reliable because they rely on an electrolyte and this electrolyte eats up the anode that's why batteries go dead. The only way to prolong that is to create a solid-state battery.
 
Bergslagstroll said:
Can you show the sources for that?
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The source for what?

The 125 KVA level for safety rule changes?

I probably could, but I would have to research it. I know it as established fact, and read it years ago as I've been working on automation equipment for years. I don't know off the top of my head where to find it. You can find it just as easily. You might start with NFPA 70 regulations.

Can you show me that unlicensed personnel without the proper PPE (personal protective equipment) are allowed to connect and disconnect power that uses a source transformer larger than 125 KVA?
 
CLAX1911 said:
I've read several articles on this and I haven't seen the megawatt output so it seems really fishy.
they're going to store pressurized hydrogen underground? You don't see any danger in that?


I've heard some things about a solid-state battery but it's pretty distant. Otherwise batteries aren't reliable because they rely on an electrolyte and this electrolyte eats up the anode that's why batteries go dead. The only way to prolong that is to create a solid-state battery.
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Batteries are getting better and better life span.

Tesla May Soon Have a Battery That Can Last a Million Miles | WIRED

There you for example have the very successful giant battery park in Australia.

Huge Tesla battery in South Australia primed for big upgrade
 
[h=2]Increasingly Powerful Headwinds Ahead: Germany’s Wind Industry Faces Extinction …”Several 10,000 Jobs Lost “[/h]By P Gosselin on 24. November 2019
Online site wind energy proponent site, Energiezukunft.eu here presents a commentary telling why Germany is seeing ever increasing resistance to wind energy projects and how the wind industry could be seeing the final nail in its coffin.

German wind industry losing its shine, seeing growing resistance. Photo: Pierre Gosselin​
Behind the mounting resistance are hundreds of anti-wind farm citizens’ initiatives across the country, stricter rules for wind projects and powerful anti-wind bureaucrats now heading key government positions.
According to Energiezukunft.eu,(Energy Future.eu) the new German draft laws are also calling on wind farm operators “to participate in the costs of grid expansion”, a costly requirement that wind energy proponents say “could ruin the wind energy industry”.
“Actions in the Ministry of Economics show: This is being done deliberately.”
Wind running up against fierce citizens’ opposition
Once welcome with open arms by citizens in Europe, wind projects today are being met with fierce opposition as citizens have come to realize how wind parks horrendously blight the landscape, threaten endangered species, produce unhealthy infrasound and generate electricity only sporadically.
Actions speaking louder than words
While the German CDU/CSU/SPD grand coalition government openly preaches the virtues of changing over to green energies like wind and sun and that they are the future, their actions and proposals in reality speak tell us the opposite. The German government indeed seems to be ending the free ride that wind energy has enjoyed for more than 2 decades.
Energiezukunft.eu reports that the planned grid expansion participation regulation “could stifle the construction of new wind turbines in overloaded power grids such as those in northern Germany” and “would lead to incalculable costs for wind farm operators.”

Onshore wind parks are looking less attractive than ever.
Anti-wind citizens groups now a formidable force
Once ridiculed and often ignored, citizens’ initiatives against wind projects now “have great influence up to the highest circles” of federal ministries, Energiezukunft.eu acknowledges.
Wind energy proponent Energiezukunft.eu attacks the citizen initiatives, claiming their arguments “are often put forward under the guise of environmental protection.” Energiezukunft.eu then even claims wind turbines in fact protect species and the environment: “In addition, there is climate change, which severely disrupts and destroys the environment of the animals. The expansion of wind power would bring positive benefits here.”
Anti-wind officials in key positions
Energiezukunft.eu points out there is another major obstacle that the wind industry is facing in the future: high-level, anti-wind energy officials appointed to key positions, such as Stephanie von Ahlefeldt, head of the “Energy Policy – Electricity and Networks” department.
Because Ahlefeldt is now sitting at the levers of control, “She knows exactly which levers to pull in order to make a difference, and she is pulling all the levers at the same time,” Energiezukunft.eu warns.
Bleak future for German wind energy
Bright future for conservationists
The mounting obstacles against wind energy from citizens initiatives, stricter regulations and powerful anti-wind officials in key positions mean the future for wind energy development across Germany’s landscape looks bleaker than ever. This has real environmentalists celebrating.
Tens of thousands of wind jobs lost
The situation for the wind industry in Germany has been dismal for some two years. Energiezukunft.eu writes: “Several 10,000 jobs have already been lost in the wind energy sector” and “many thousands more jobs are at risk as a result of the planned regulations.”
 
[h=2]Land of the free: US allows citizens to choose whatever light globe they want[/h]
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In a rare move for consumers, US citizens will not be forced to buy LED soul-and-body-clock destroying globes next year as was planned. Instead they can continue to buy incandescent globes. No US citizen will be denied the choice to save money, and enjoy a more natural spectrum. If you like your sleeping patterns, you can keep them…
BBC
(From September 2019)
The US is scrapping a ban on energy-inefficient light bulbs which was due to come in at the beginning of 2020.
The rule would have prohibited the sale of bulbs that do not reach a standard of efficiency, and could have seen an end to incandescent bulbs.
Many countries have phased out older bulbs because they waste energy.
But the US energy department said banning incandescent bulbs would be bad for consumers because of the higher cost of more efficient bulbs.
The Department of Energy said it had withdrawn the ban because it was a misinterpretation of the 2007 Energy Independence and Security Act.
Specifically, the law stipulated that restrictions on bulbs could only be implemented when it was economically justified, Shaylyn Hynes, a spokeswoman for the Department of Energy, told the New York Times.
[h=3]Blue light suppresses melatonin, reducing sleep[/h]HArvard Medical School
[h=3]Effects of blue light and sleep[/h]While light of any kind can suppress the secretion of melatonin, blue light at night does so more powerfully. Harvard researchers and their colleagues conducted an experiment comparing the effects of 6.5 hours of exposure to blue light to exposure to green light of comparable brightness. The blue light suppressed melatonin for about twice as long as the green light and shifted circadian rhythms by twice as much (3 hours vs. 1.5 hours).
Exposure to blue light at night has been associated with breast and prostate cancer. In the latest bizarre news Daily exposure to blue light may accelerate aging, even if it doesn’t reach your eyes. OK, it’s just a fly study, but even eyeless flies had some brain damage from being exposed to 12 hours of day of blue light. And who knows what effect LED lighting could have on insects and wildlife (but who cares eh? Not the Greens).
For years, I’ve used F.lux to make my screens warm “cave painting” colors after sundown. It’s free for personal use.
 
Bergslagstroll said:
Batteries are getting better and better life span.

Tesla May Soon Have a Battery That Can Last a Million Miles | WIRED

There you for example have the very successful giant battery park in Australia.

Huge Tesla battery in South Australia primed for big upgrade
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When the propaganda of "Tesla May Soon Have a Battery That Can Last a Million Miles" changes to "Tesla Has a Battery That Lasts a Million Miles." Then we have something to celebrate.

Until then, it's all in fantasy land.
 
Jack Hays said:
[h=2]Increasingly Powerful Headwinds Ahead: Germany’s Wind Industry Faces Extinction …”Several 10,000 Jobs Lost “[/h]By P Gosselin on 24. November 2019
Online site wind energy proponent site, Energiezukunft.eu here presents a commentary telling why Germany is seeing ever increasing resistance to wind energy projects and how the wind industry could be seeing the final nail in its coffin.
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As I learned more about how the blades erode, I started wondering when all wind projects would stop. I wonder how many years it will be before we have class action suits when people start getting lung cancer who live downwind of them.
 
Jack Hays said:
[h=2]Land of the free: US allows citizens to choose whatever light globe they want[/h]
light-globes-dizplay-350.gif
In a rare move for consumers, US citizens will not be forced to buy LED soul-and-body-clock destroying globes next year as was planned. Instead they can continue to buy incandescent globes. No US citizen will be denied the choice to save money, and enjoy a more natural spectrum. If you like your sleeping patterns, you can keep them…
BBC
(From September 2019)
The US is scrapping a ban on energy-inefficient light bulbs which was due to come in at the beginning of 2020.
The rule would have prohibited the sale of bulbs that do not reach a standard of efficiency, and could have seen an end to incandescent bulbs.
Many countries have phased out older bulbs because they waste energy.
But the US energy department said banning incandescent bulbs would be bad for consumers because of the higher cost of more efficient bulbs.
The Department of Energy said it had withdrawn the ban because it was a misinterpretation of the 2007 Energy Independence and Security Act.
Specifically, the law stipulated that restrictions on bulbs could only be implemented when it was economically justified, Shaylyn Hynes, a spokeswoman for the Department of Energy, told the New York Times.
[h=3]Blue light suppresses melatonin, reducing sleep[/h]HArvard Medical School
[h=3]Effects of blue light and sleep[/h]While light of any kind can suppress the secretion of melatonin, blue light at night does so more powerfully. Harvard researchers and their colleagues conducted an experiment comparing the effects of 6.5 hours of exposure to blue light to exposure to green light of comparable brightness. The blue light suppressed melatonin for about twice as long as the green light and shifted circadian rhythms by twice as much (3 hours vs. 1.5 hours).
Exposure to blue light at night has been associated with breast and prostate cancer. In the latest bizarre news Daily exposure to blue light may accelerate aging, even if it doesn’t reach your eyes. OK, it’s just a fly study, but even eyeless flies had some brain damage from being exposed to 12 hours of day of blue light. And who knows what effect LED lighting could have on insects and wildlife (but who cares eh? Not the Greens).
For years, I’ve used F.lux to make my screens warm “cave painting” colors after sundown. It’s free for personal use.
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Cool.

Another silly regulation being rolled back instituted by president Obama...

Why do democrats want to micromanage our lives?
 
Bergslagstroll said:
Batteries are getting better and better life span.

Tesla May Soon Have a Battery That Can Last a Million Miles | WIRED
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I agree batteries are getting better and better the more rare earth we mine. but the idea that you can get a million miles out of one and a Tesla is far fetched. The materials we make batteries out of just don't last that long in a galvanic cell. Musk is a dreamer and I think that's great visionaries the people push things. But the idea of a million mile battery cell is far.
There you for example have the very successful giant battery park in Australia.

Huge Tesla battery in South Australia primed for big upgrade
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The batteries are meant to store extra energy, I don't think it's a bad idea to use them for this purpose. The problem we have in the states mainly because we have a lot more people is there's no spare energy. Take for example my city it's one of the largest cities in the country I understand, but it is about a quarter of Australia's population. We have a nuclear power plant a pretty big one in a nearby Town that supplies a big percentage of our energy. Not all of it I'm not even sure it's supplies most of it. It generates 4,800 megawatts. And that's not enough.

Musk's batteries would be flat with in hours even after the upgrade.

Maybe it works in Australia if it does that's great. What batteries are storage devices you still have to generate the energy that goes in them.
 
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[h=1]No Plan B for Planet A[/h][FONT=&quot]Replacing fossil fuels with “renewable” energy would devastate the only planet we’ve got Paul Driessen Environmentalists and Green New Deal proponents like to say we must take care of the Earth, because “There is no Planet B.” Above all, they insist, we must eliminate fossil fuels, which they say are causing climate change worse than…
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Jack Hays said:
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I wonder if they are leading by example?
 
[h=1]Electric cars crash[/h]Posted on 01 Dec 19 by TONY THOMAS • 1 Comment
Globally, SUVs are swamping car sales and here’s the point: as fast as governments bribe or wrangle people into low-emission electrics, the popular shift to SUVs more than cancels the emissions cuts. In the forced march of folly towards net zero emissions, electrics are as much a lost cause as windmills. Tony Thomas 30 November … Continue reading →
 
Jack Hays said:
[h=1]Electric cars crash[/h]Posted on 01 Dec 19 by TONY THOMAS • 1 Comment
Globally, SUVs are swamping car sales and here’s the point: as fast as governments bribe or wrangle people into low-emission electrics, the popular shift to SUVs more than cancels the emissions cuts. In the forced march of folly towards net zero emissions, electrics are as much a lost cause as windmills. Tony Thomas 30 November … Continue reading →
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Politicians who issue fiat commands, and expect results, would be better served by understanding people, and looking
at ways at accomplishing the same goals, by working in the direction the crowd is already heading.
Reducing emissions would be easier to accomplish if they made the fuel carbon neutral rather than trying to replace all the vehicles.
 
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[h=1]Some Facts About Energy[/h][FONT=&quot]By Wallace Manheimer The industrial age, namely using coal, oil and gas to generate power instead of human and animal muscle, and wind and solar have lifted billions out of poverty. Before the industrial age, civilization was a thin veneer on top of a vast mound of human misery, that civilization maintained by such things…
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Hyundai Motor are making massive investment in electric cars.

"South Korean automaker Hyundai Motor will commit 20 trillion won ($A24.5 billion) into a five year push to become one of the world’s top electric vehicle makers, as well as focus on future smart mobility technology including connected services and autonomous driving.

In a statement made by the company on Tuesday, a new “Strategy 2025” plan will see the car maker put more than 11 trillion won ($A13.5 billion) into electric and autonomous cars."

Hyundai to focus on autonomous and electric vehicles in $24 billion push | The Driven

Jus like other car companies like Volkswagen.

Subscribe to read | Financial Times
 
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[h=1]Black Friday Tesla Fail: Half a Mile Queue to Recharge[/h][FONT=&quot]Guest essay by Eric Worrall h/t JoNova, ZeroHedge – Tesla Car Owners were stuck in a massive queue at Kettleman City Supercharger station on Friday, as the facility was overwhelmed by virtue signalling Californians. ‘Bet they wish they had gas!’ Chaos in California as Tesla drivers are stranded for hours in a half-a-mile-long line to…
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Jack Hays said:
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I seem to recall saying something about the time and land area needed to satisfy charging electric cars.
 
Here's a You Tube from earlier this year:





"Does Wall Street have something in their desks that makes steel? Where's the fertilizer, cement,
plastic - where's it going to come from? ... Do planes fly through the sky because of some number
you put on a spreadsheet? The madness of this! ... There is no substitute for how the industrial
economy runs today."

I couldn't have said it better myself (-:
 
Bergslagstroll said:
Hyundai Motor are making massive investment in electric cars.

"South Korean automaker Hyundai Motor will commit 20 trillion won ($A24.5 billion) into a five year push to become one of the world’s top electric vehicle makers, as well as focus on future smart mobility technology including connected services and autonomous driving.

In a statement made by the company on Tuesday, a new “Strategy 2025” plan will see the car maker put more than 11 trillion won ($A13.5 billion) into electric and autonomous cars."

Hyundai to focus on autonomous and electric vehicles in $24 billion push | The Driven

Jus like other car companies like Volkswagen.

Subscribe to read | Financial Times
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All the automakers are focusing on Electric Vehicles, with the understanding that this is the FUTURE!
 
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