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Should Donald JOHN Trump be punished? Just wondered.
No sure what this has to do with this thread.
Should Donald JOHN Trump be punished? Just wondered.
It is illegal for employers to require female employees to do sex acts as a condition of employment. If you get your way, that will change too.
Then acknowledge you favor eliminating all sex discrimination laws and all job safety laws. Recognize all people are "adults" and don't need government deciding what is best for them or protecting them.
Pimping and economically or otherwise force women into prostitution because legal with legalized prostitution. It is about eliminating protecting the most vulnerable females from one of the most danger professions - if not the most dangerous - for women on earth. It is not dangerous because it is illegal. It is dangerous because it is prostitution.
Every year this same topic is recycles and those wanting women to go into the profession of selling sex use the same absurd slogans they just then repeat over an over.
Legalizing prostitute makes it legal to force women into prostitution provided it can not be proven illegal methods that can be proven were used in that pressure.
The same exactly-opposite-for-truth logic is used claiming legalizing prostitution stops pimping, when in fact legalizing prostitution inherently legalizes pimping.
This is all about trying to force poor women into prostitution, while claiming this it to oppose religious people who claim the sex and women are more than just business and that women are more than just sexual pieces of meat.
Once again, talk about absurd logic."I will only hire you if you have sex with me." Legal if prostitution is legal. "Have sex with me or I will fire you." Legal if prostitution is legal.
"Your job duties now include having sex with clients such as we say or you are fired." Legal if prostitution is legal.
"You have become to old and fat to perform you new job duty area of having sex with clients because clients don't want to have sex with you." Legal if prostitution is legal - a person incapable of performing job duties can be fired - and there is no unemployment coverage if an employee is fired for cause.
Again, in your logic of sex is no different than any other job duty so I gather all the above is ok with you. To me, it is criminal and should remain criminal. But, then, you did post that in your opinion sex is no different from any other job duty, so I gather you are fine with those?
What man but a total loser has to pay for sex?
No sure what this has to do with this thread.
Not being religious, I would not consider it "valid" either. However, I think we atheists do a great disservice to humanity by forgoing moral principles. It is why I remain a conservative in my moral outlook while still being a materialist. If anything, conservative morals are what can preserve society and allow greater happiness and prosperity in the here and now, because there will be no justice or reward for the downtrodden and miserable in the hereafter.
I would argue that prostitution should remain illegal on the basis that selling one's own organs should remain illegal: However regulated it may be, it creates perverse incentives that leaves the most vulnerable people open to legalized exploitation by the very worst people in society. To give one's body freely and consensually is one thing, in the same way that to give one's organs or blood to another person. To sell one's body and to commodify one's humanity is a dangerous road to go down.
Please accept my apology for the tone of that message. I have the highest opinion of you from many topics and do understand your reasons are what you believe is best for women and overall in the balance. While I disagree with an opposite view of what the result of blanket legalizing of abortion would bring, your intentions are not questionable to me.
Sex isn't the problem. Sex is a wonderful idea. People should get all of it they can. Sex for money, however, is a desperate, ugly business that does women no good. And yes, I do see it that way, but I don't insist that women see it that way at all. They are free to form their own opinions. I would hope they do, and set their sights on better ways of earning a living.
And why do your consider mine a strictly male opinion? I asked my wife about it and she says prostitution is indeed degrading to all women, not just the hookers. So it's an opinion shared by many, many women I suspect, maybe even the majority of women. You might just be in the minority on this issue.
Besides, what kind of loser are you if you have to pay for sex? It ain't that hard to get a woman of your own.
Every year this same topic is recycles and those wanting to keep it Illegal for people to go into the profession of selling sex use the same absurd slogans they just then repeat over an over.
Speaking of absurd logic. Having prostitution as a legal profession will no more force people into it than legal accounting will force people into being accountants.
I'm not going to say that this isn't true in the strictest sense, but it would change the nature of"pimping". If legal, whole businesses, as well as independent contractors, would arise. Which means managers and regional directors and the lot, regardless of title used. Why would there not be? But it would be done in prostitution the same as the rest of the business world. Managers would not be allowed to physically beat their workers as pimps now do theirs. Would it happen? Sure, it happens in all kinds of businesses now. Every negative thing that you would associate with pimping, outside of the actual sex work, happens in legit business now. The question then becomes whether such people get caught or exposed.
As you ignore that there are men who also prostitute, women who are wanting this legal so that they can be in a legitimate business or legitimately get a male prostitute. There are women and men out there serving the high end customers making 5 and 6 figure incomes. They would much rather be legit.
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You lefties missed the boat on making fun of his name. We had President Hussein, now we have a JOHN in the White house.
Seriously? Out of all those points and that was all you could address?Not one in 10,000 make a 6 figure income and $10,000 a year is a 5 figure income.
Should Donald JOHN Trump be punished? Just wondered.
I'm almost 70, just a few months away, out with my wife this week to do some holiday shopping, see a show, dine out. We take a room at a high end hotel for a day and night, a convenience. I've been ill, need a place to rest in between whatever, she wants private time for a skin treatment, getting her hair done, manicure, feminine things, and some new outfits. A place to change. We check in, I'm wearing a quality suit and go to the hotel bar to wait for her as she prepares to go out for dinner. I expect to wait about a half hour for her to join me. We have an early dinner reservation and tickets for a show. While sitting at the bar, sipping diet ginger ales, three top end working girls come over and proposition me for a "date." All fine looking, educated, soft spoken and with quiet aplomb I tell them I am a flattered old man, thank them and explain I am waiting for my wife. All three girls were in their 20's. My wife arrived, ordered a bourbon and I told her what occurred, she laughed and said it her taste in purchasing my suit which attracted those girls and laughed. We left for dinner and an enjoyable evening together. How many more we can share, paramount on my mind.
I'd bet all three of those girls found what they wanted at the hotel bar. They tipped the bar tender, concierge, whoever referred them the evening's business and everyone went on with lives.
Seriously? Out of all those points and that was all you could address?
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Sad you're making it seem so glamorous and harmless. You have no clue what the lives of those three young women were really like.
Ain't nothing glamorous about it. It is still the conveyance of flesh, at no matter what level, what cost. Ask Eliot Spitzer, prosecutor and user, far from the only one.
What you fail to understand, there is no difference between working the streets with working an upper class hotel bar. You run to judgment by your morals with no understanding of what is being said. Your morality contributes no solutions, merely satisfies whatever insecurities your feelings of moral superiority may be.
I'm only telling you part of what I have seen. Not my moral judgments or opinions. Yet you, with no understanding, proclaim your superiority with no viable solutions to a problem that has existed since the dawn of time for humans.
How am I showing moral superiority? I've posted how prostituting ones self is dangerous for anyone who decides to make money off of selling their bodies. Morals come into it when you realize how others may judge you, the men you're having sex with and how the prostitute really feels about selling themselves for sex. has nothing to do with me morally judging prostitution. It's about what I've experienced in life from others judging women and what they feel are immoral acts.
Read what you write.
You car enough to replyReally dont care if you believe me or not. :shrug:
Dont care if you believe the article I linked.
Dont care much what you believe...you posted an opinion, I posted an opinion......move on to the next thread I suppose.