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Moms for Liberty Has a Nudity Problem

lmao this guy talking about trolling... :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

I'm taking this conversation seriously, PoS. You know how you know? Because it's not one of your threads.
When other posters are questioning your integrity, its pretty obvious youre posting crap. Its great seeing your self ownage on a daily basis, 🤡
 
Almost all school libraries would have the ACOTAR series since it's so freakin' popular among young people.

Also, Fourth Wing is another very popular book right now with spice.
Had to look these up.

ACOTAR series seems to be targeted towards young teens - the general online consensus seems to suggest that the age appropriateness of this book starts between 13 and 15.

Fourth wing actually has a stated age rating, which states it is for ages 18 and up. If this is in a school, it should not be, based on the stated age requirement of the book. I'd still need proof that it's in an actual school library with that rating, but if you can provide it, I can agree with you, that's a problem.

Neither of these books are erotica or pornography, they are fantasy novels. Have you ever read a pornographic novel? I did some erotica ghost writing once, a sort of exercise in writing for audiences that I did not relate to, and there was some research involved. Let me tell you, they're not big on story.
...which are all available for minors to purchase. They are at Barnes and Noble and other bookstores too.
Ok, but that's not a school problem, that's a bookstore problem. We're talking schools here, and the issue isn't whether or not kids should have access to 18+ material, it's whether or not that's actually happening at schools. I still don't have proof of that, so I'm still confused about what all the fuss is about, in terms of the topic of this thread.
 
They're literal Nazis, the ****ers quote Adolf Hitler. They should be publicly mocked until they move to another country.
Some people say the bakers in the night kitchen are literally Nazis too. Maybe the Moms object to that as much as nudity.
Can't be teaching kids about Nazis trying to put people into ovens.

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When other posters are questioning your integrity, its pretty obvious youre posting crap. Its great seeing your self ownage on a daily basis, 🤡
Thanks! I love irony!
 
Almost all school libraries would have the ACOTAR series since it's so freakin' popular among young people. It's a series of books -- A Court of Silver Flames is the spiciest one, although they all have a certain level of 🌶️🌶️.

Also, Fourth Wing is another very popular book right now.

There are literally thousands of books that minors are reading right now that have very, very explicit sexual activity. It sounds like you don't think schools should be providing them. Am I wrong?



...which are all available for minors to purchase. They are at Barnes and Noble and other bookstores too.
let's burn those books then
 
Im going to post some porn now. I'll accept the lashes from the mods
im sure they want this one banned
 

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Neither of these books are erotica or pornography, they are fantasy novels. Have you ever read a pornographic novel? I did some erotica ghost writing once, a sort of exercise in writing for audiences that I did not relate to, and there was some research involved. Let me tell you, they're not big on story.



I'm starting to wonder if you are actually trolling, it's been in the news for months.

Oh and BTW, if a book says 14+ or 18+ the librarian is under no obligation to void the transaction.
 



I'm starting to wonder if you are actually trolling, it's been in the news for months.

Oh and BTW, if a book says 14+ or 18+ the librarian is under no obligation to void the transaction.
those links are far right wing sources. The last one is asking for opinions.

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those links are far right wing sources. The last one is asking for opinions.

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Is it easy and comfortable in your body to be that shallow?
 
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Pornography is whatever the law says it is. It doesn't matter what you or i think. Law trumps opinion, for better or worse.

Sexually focused content is not automatically pornography, come on. That would mean posters telling kids to abstain is pornigraphy, as is the commandment thou shalt not commit adultery.

Do you see how ridiculous this is? You can't just change definitions to suit your narrative.

And no, I'd never live in Florida... lol... pretty sure everyone would be happy with that statement. Which is not to say i haven't known excellent people from Florida...

it's just not a place for reasonable people to live comfortably.

Where did you get this idea, Nate? I know a lot of reasonable people who live very comfortably in FL. and even in my state, CA.
 
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Had to look these up.

I'm not surprised. Most people have no idea the kind of sexual content being written in books nowadays.
ACOTAR series seems to be targeted towards young teens - the general online consensus seems to suggest that the age appropriateness of this book starts between 13 and 15.

It started as a YA series and was changed to a New Adult series. They absolutely are "printed material containing explicit description of sexual activity".
Fourth wing actually has a stated age rating, which states it is for ages 18 and up.

And it has a couple of "open door" spicy scenes, but the ACOTAR series is even more explicit.

If this is in a school, it should not be, based on the stated age requirement of the book. I'd still need proof that it's in an actual school library with that rating, but if you can provide it, I can agree with you, that's a problem.

Yes, Fourth Wing and ACOTAR are both in public school libraries. And they both are "printed material containing explicit description of sexual activity". I agree with you that 18+ books shouldn't be in public schools.

Neither of these books are erotica or pornography, they are fantasy novels.

Any novel of any genre can contain erotica or pornographic passages.

Have you ever read a pornographic novel?

Yep.

I did some erotica ghost writing once, a sort of exercise in writing for audiences that I did not relate to, and there was some research involved. Let me tell you, they're not big on story.

I know. We've discussed this before. They are readily available for anyone to purchase on Amazon.

Ok, but that's not a school problem, that's a bookstore problem. We're talking schools here, and the issue isn't whether or not kids should have access to 18+ material, it's whether or not that's actually happening at schools. I still don't have proof of that, so I'm still confused about what all the fuss is about, in terms of the topic of this thread.

Gender Queer -- 18+ --- in school libraries. There have been countless threads about it.
Credence -- 18+ --- in school libraries.
Fourth Wing -- 18+ -- in school libraries.

Should 18+ books be available for minors to check out in public libraries? Purchase on Amazon? Purchase at a bookstore?
 
Where did you get this idea, Nate? I know a lot of reasonable people who live very comfortably in FL. and even in my state, CA.
Because a reasonable person would probably go batshit crazy with all the batshit crazy stuff going on there... lol

I dunno, maybe it's just me. I mean, don't you go a little cross eyed after banging your head against the wall about what pisses you off about CA? I would, and I'm way more aligned with the spirit of what they try to do there.

Maybe it's just America in general - bear with me, I'm not hating... lol You guys have become a land of extremes, sensationalism has replaced reason, narratives have become more important than truths. It must be difficult for reasonable people all over... either that or they've given up entirely.

So perhaps i made a hasty comment about Florida... although they do appear to be in the cutting edge of wack-a-doo gong-show-ism. Maybe it's all of America, and, if to a lesser extent, Canada too. But i was responding to the suggestion that i shouldn't move to Florida, so I'll use that as my door to recovery on this one... hehe

PS: I've been to Florida many times as a kid, it's one of my favorite places in the world. Restore 80's Florida and I'll take it all back and sip girly drinks on a beach in St Augustine with a shit eating grin that'll stretch all the way back home to my igloo.
 
Because a reasonable person would probably go batshit crazy with all the batshit crazy stuff going on there... lol

I dunno, maybe it's just me. I mean, don't you go a little cross eyed after banging your head against the wall about what pisses you off about CA? I would, and I'm way more aligned with the spirit of what they try to do there.

Maybe it's just America in general - bear with me, I'm not hating... lol You guys have become a land of extremes, sensationalism has replaced reason, narratives have become more important than truths. It must be difficult for reasonable people all over... either that or they've given up entirely.

So perhaps i made a hasty comment about Florida... although they do appear to be in the cutting edge of wack-a-doo gong-show-ism. Maybe it's all of America, and, if to a lesser extent, Canada too. But i was responding to the suggestion that i shouldn't move to Florida, so I'll use that as my door to recovery on this one... hehe

PS: I've been to Florida many times as a kid, it's one of my favorite places in the world. Restore 80's Florida and I'll take it all back and sip girly drinks on a beach in St Augustine with a shit eating grin that'll stretch all the way back home to my igloo.

I truly have to wonder who is feeding you this misinformation. From where do you get your news about our politics?

Though CA. and FL.'s politics are on the polar opposite end of the spectrum, reasonable people just go with it. I wouldn't live in any state other than CA. and there is nothing I can do about the left leaning supermajority but vote. Most people who live in both states, CA. and FL. put up with what they don't like as far as politics go because of their state's economy and the weather. Both are tens in that department. Despite a difference in politics, there are genuinely nice, reasonable and intelligent people who live in both states. I've found that most people just want what's best for their families, but they disagree with how public schools achieve it. It's a good thing we don't have one side who thinks they have the right to say how it's done. We are a healthy country when it comes to that.
We'll always find some extremists who live everywhere though.
 
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OK, finally, something to talk about.
Problematic due to age appropriateness, but not porn.
Not porn.
This article discusses three books.

Books one and two are not porn.

Book three is more graphic than I'd be comfortable with my 11 year old looking at, but is not porn.
I'm starting to wonder if you are actually trolling, it's been in the news for months.
I'm not trolling, don't take the lazy way out, and don't get ahead of yourself, you have not made the point you may have thought you have.
Oh and BTW, if a book says 14+ or 18+ the librarian is under no obligation to void the transaction.
That should be fixed! Not through bans, but through getting the staff to do their job.

So, you've dropped three links pertaining to five books, two of which were problematic because of the age of those accessing them, none of which would be considered porn or erotica.

The solution here seems to be that school librarians need to be better trained and more engaged, and age ratings need to be enforced.

Here's where i think you're getting stuck. You seem to think your morality should apply to everyone. That what you think is pornography should be the definition, and that definition should never change, regardless of what societal norms become. And i can sympathize. It would be easy to lie for the sake of debate and say i was totally comfortable with all the material presented, but that would be a lie.

But what i will say is that it's not up to me, and definitions are definitions. If i was concerned, i would take my concerns to the police, because distributing pornography to minors is a criminal offense. They'd clear things up pretty quick, i would imagine.

If i wasn't happy with the result of that, i would do my job as an parent, in an age appropriate way, and have a talk with my kid about the content that i was uncomfortable with, and find out where he's at with it, because i want him to be able to talk with me about this kind of thing, and being an dictator pretty much guarantees that won't happen.

What i would NOT do is attempt to enforce my own morality on other people's kids through attempting to ban things i don't like. Nor would i attempt to give weight to my opinion by calling things something other than they are. Because i understand that does the opposite.

Now... i feel like we've talked pornography to death. What do you think about naked goblin bums? Because that's actually what this thread is about... And while we're at it, how does a thread about naked goblin bums become a debate about the definition of porn? It's worth considering, as while i would take your concerns seriously in their own thread, the fact that they are brought up in a thread about goblin bums just seems like a soft debate tactic to get past the ridiculousness of being mad about naked goblin bums.
 
I truly have to wonder who is feeding you this misinformation. From where do you get your news about our politics?

Though CA. and FL.'s politics are on the polar opposite end of the spectrum, reasonable people just go with it. I wouldn't live in any state other than CA. and there is nothing I can do about the left leaning supermajority but vote. Most people who live in both states, CA. and FL. put up with what they don't like as far as politics go because of their state's economy and the weather. Both are tens in that department. Despite a difference in politics, there are genuinely nice, reasonable and intelligent people who live in both states. I've found that most people just want what's best for their families, but they disagree with how public schools achieve it. It's a good thing we don't have one side who thinks they have the right to say how it's done.
Alright, i was feeling the warm and fuzzy vibes up until this last sentence... lol You're writing this in a thread about parental rage banning over goblin bums. You wanna edit?

We are a healthy country when it comes to that.
We'll always find some extremists who live everywhere though.
I feel trolled... lol

It sounds like you're describing America circa 1999. Or, maybe circa 9/10, things have definitely been different down there since after 9/11.

Which is not the same as saying all Americans are jerks or anything, it's not a diss... but you can't say things haven't gotten, shall we say, a touch more heated? Hehe

That all said, politics is only part of the problem for me. Florida has too many hurricanes and both native and invasive giant reptiles. And California has earthquakes and Hollywood. Hard pass on both.

You know where I'd live, if i absolutely couldn't live up here anymore? New England. Vermont, New Hampshire, or Maine, in that order. Actually maybe New Hampshire first. They're gorgeous, and the people know how to party... if not for the guns and the cheap fuel, I'd think i was in Canada... hehe

I also really like the idea of Alaska, but honestly, the farther north you go, the crazier shit gets, America or Canada. So while I'd probably have a blast, I'd no doubt find myself prematurely expired in a snow bank somewhere. Plus... **** polar bears, they're assholes. Canada geese are asshole enough, thank you.
 
I'm not surprised. Most people have no idea the kind of sexual content being written in books nowadays.


It started as a YA series and was changed to a New Adult series. They absolutely are "printed material containing explicit description of sexual activity".


And it has a couple of "open door" spicy scenes, but the ACOTAR series is even more explicit.



Yes, Fourth Wing and ACOTAR are both in public school libraries. And they both are "printed material containing explicit description of sexual activity". I agree with you that 18+ books shouldn't be in public schools.



Any novel of any genre can contain erotica or pornographic passages.
OK, but you're missing an important element, and it kinda looks intentional:

intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings

This is why definitions are important. I do not support porn in schools, period. I do not have a problem with sexual content in schools, as long as age ratings are respected and enforced. The definition provides the distinction.
Yep.



I know. We've discussed this before. They are readily available for anyone to purchase on Amazon.



Gender Queer -- 18+ --- in school libraries. There have been countless threads about it.
Credence -- 18+ --- in school libraries.
Fourth Wing -- 18+ -- in school libraries.

Should 18+ books be available for minors to check out in public libraries? Purchase on Amazon? Purchase at a bookstore?
If there are kids 18+ at the school, sure. If not, no.

Same for retailers. Everyone should obey the law.

And i do appreciate that you asked me that using the term 18+, rather than pornography, because now we're taking about something accurately. Might be worth noting we could have saved a few thousand words if you'd lead out with that... hehe But seriously... you just learned firsthand the power of using the correct word, rather than the one that inflates your narrative. Please, please, please... remember that.

Now... how do you feel about goblin bums? Because that's what we're actually supposed to be discussing here. Can we say mom's for liberty might be getting a little bit carried away?
 
OK, but you're missing an important element, and it kinda looks intentional:

intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings

The passages I'm talking absolutely stimulate erotic feelings. I mean -- unless you dislike or aren't interested in sex, I guess.

This is why definitions are important. I do not support porn in schools, period. I do not have a problem with sexual content in schools, as long as age ratings are respected and enforced. The definition provides the distinction.

I agree that sexual content in books should be age appropriate.
If there are kids 18+ at the school, sure. If not, no


Same for retailers. Everyone should obey the law.


And i do appreciate that you asked me that using the term 18+, rather than pornography, because now we're taking about something accurately. Might be worth noting we could have saved a few thousand words if you'd lead out with that... hehe But seriously... you just learned firsthand the power of using the correct word, rather than the one that inflates your narrative. Please, please, please... remember that.

It's not just books labeled "erotica" that give you all of the sexy feelings. Perhaps read one of the books I mentioned and try not to get turned on? ;) I just finished Fourth Wing. I certainly wouldn't want to be reading some parts of that in public.
Now... how do you feel about goblin bums? Because that's what we're actually supposed to be discussing here. Can we say mom's for liberty might be getting a little bit carried away?

Of course. They take things too far. There is content that is age appropriate and content that isn't. Goblin butts, kids' butts -- perfectly fine. Two mommies, two daddies - perfectly fine. A queer character or two - perfectly fine. Several pages describing sexual activities in very explicit detail? Not fine for middle school, for sure. Some aren't even appropriate for high school, IMO (like the ones with incest, adult/minor sexual relationship, violent sexual relationships)
 
OK, but you're missing an important element, and it kinda looks intentional:

intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings

This is why definitions are important. I do not support porn in schools, period. I do not have a problem with sexual content in schools, as long as age ratings are respected and enforced. The definition provides the distinction.

If there are kids 18+ at the school, sure. If not, no.

Same for retailers. Everyone should obey the law.

And i do appreciate that you asked me that using the term 18+, rather than pornography, because now we're taking about something accurately. Might be worth noting we could have saved a few thousand words if you'd lead out with that... hehe But seriously... you just learned firsthand the power of using the correct word, rather than the one that inflates your narrative. Please, please, please... remember that.

Now... how do you feel about goblin bums? Because that's what we're actually supposed to be discussing here. Can we say mom's for liberty might be getting a little bit carried away?

Maybe the Klanned Karenhood gets turned on by goblin butts. Who am I to judge? 😉
 
Yes and then we need to put pants on all those filthy animals in the zoo.
There was an LA guy some years ago (1960s) who bet his friends that people would buy any outrageous thing. He proposed putting clothes on animals, saying with a straight face that cattle in the fields had their heads down because they were embarrassed at being naked. He traveled to SF where I lived and displayed his designs for clothing for animals, including a draw string animals could pull on so they could relieve themselves.
 
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