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Is Trump a Fascist?

Is Trump a Fascist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 32 31.1%
  • No

    Votes: 65 63.1%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 5 4.9%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 1 1.0%

  • Total voters
    103
You seem to assume governmental assistance. Why?

What about estates? Are you saying we discourage people from dying with a death tax?

No such thing as a death tax. The government encourages distribution of large estates (because movement of money is one way the economy grows) prior to the estate holder passing by the imposition of an inheritance tax.
 
No such thing as a death tax. The government encourages distribution of large estates (because movement of money is one way the economy grows) prior to the estate holder passing by the imposition of an inheritance tax.
The government encourages the distribution of large estates taxing the estate when the owner dies. That's a death tax. You just object to the title.
 
In Hitler's reign there was a purge called "the night of the long knives".
Pretty much everybody that disagreed with Hitler wound up dead.
Hitler announced to the people he had to do that for the sake of the Fatherland well nation

Anybody care to look that up.

In Trump's term he fired or got rid of everybody that disagreed with him and all the witness that testified against him, including the brother of a person that did not testify against him.

These 2 sound awfully familiar.:peace
 
In Hitler's reign there was a purge called "the night of the long knives".
Pretty much everybody that disagreed with Hitler wound up dead.
Hitler announced to the people he had to do that for the sake of the Fatherland well nation

Anybody care to look that up.

In Trump's term he fired or got rid of everybody that disagreed with him and all the witness that testified against him, including the brother of a person that did not testify against him.

These 2 sound awfully familiar.:peace

So who's dead?
 
So who's dead?

Like I said these sound an awful lot alike.

Yes, Hitler is dead but the swastika flag he stood for still flies in more than one place unfortunately.
The policies he stood for are still practiced unfortunately , some by the ancestors of the very people he fought in World War 2 .

As far as I'm concerned all people that stand for that flag and the policies of Hitler should be dead as well.:peace
 
That's one of the cutest posts I've received thank you.

I especially enjoyed your left wing ideology stuff that goes straight into remedial polysci.

You failed to address a single point covered by my "cute post"...Would you like to try again?

So exactly how does your advanced polysci differ from my remedial "left wing ideology stuff"?

Next time you might try a Hallmark card -- they're straightforward rather than humorous.
I personally have yet to see anything "humorous" about large intrusive 'big-brother governments'.

The first three decades of my parents' lives were spent behind the 'Iron Curtain' which I believe pretty much makes me an authority on this particular matter!

But as with most Americans; the roots of your far-left education likely began with radical leftist professors commonly tenured at most western universities...yea, I been there/heard it all myself.

All those hungry young minds eagerly ingesting endless buffets of pro-Progressive/anti-America propaganda.

Be advised; anytime Education is rooted in 'lies, hate and rebellion' it has become Indoctrination!
 
You failed to address a single point covered by my "cute post"...Would you like to try again?

So exactly how does your advanced polysci differ from my remedial "left wing ideology stuff"?

I personally have yet to see anything "humorous" about large intrusive 'big-brother governments'.

The first three decades of my parents' lives were spent behind the 'Iron Curtain' which I believe pretty much makes me an authority on this particular matter!

But as with most Americans; the roots of your far-left education likely began with radical leftist professors commonly tenured at most western universities...yea, I been there/heard it all myself.

All those hungry young minds eagerly ingesting endless buffets of pro-Progressive/anti-America propaganda.

Be advised; anytime Education is rooted in 'lies, hate and rebellion' it has become Indoctrination!

One thingy you didn't learn anywhere is that not everyone who disagrees with you is pro Soviet/Russia or far out "leftist" in their views. Plus I would note that many high school teachers of civics and History are rightwingers to include some who are retired from a military career as nco and then went to college on the tab so they could authoritatively preach their rightwing politics and culture to the high schoolers. This appears to be where you were affected institutionally to a certain degree, more or less.

It's anyway the case that in college one is better situated to challenge the prof and the established powers, methods, means -- precepts. Indeed a polysci major gets political philosophy, comparative government, party politics and government etc focused on the techniques and approaches -- to include scientifically -- rather than a political correctness. So if one doesn't like science then it might not be one's cup of tea. Neither does pursuing the sciences of society and political economy mark one as a Marxist, a Leninist, Maoist and so on. So this concludes today's lesson thx.
 
Prove it.

if the Trump haters really believed that, I don't think they would be constantly insulting him. And if the man was truly a fascist, why is it that the Trump HATERS are the ones who want to disarm the public?
 
if the Trump haters really believed that, I don't think they would be constantly insulting him. And if the man was truly a fascist, why is it that the Trump HATERS are the ones who want to disarm the public?

Putin Trump Rowers who are always armed to the teeth know who Trump is and what he is which is why they are the Cult. They would do willingly and enthusiastically against the citizenry what the armed force of the state will not do. Indeed, the armed forces of the state are committed to protect and to serve the people so they will act as they must in their defense. Those fully armed Rowers who are unaware or in denial remain self armed nonetheless and as a matter of principle to 'em.
 
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Putin Trump Rowers who are always armed to the teeth know who Trump is and what he is which is why they are the Cult. They would do willingly and enthusiastically against the citizenry what the armed force of the state will not do. Indeed, the armed forces of the state are committed to protect and to serve the people so they will act as they must in their defense. Those fully armed Rowers who are unaware or in denial remain self armed nonetheless and as a matter of principle to 'em.

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And if the man was truly a fascist, why is it that the Trump HATERS are the ones who want to disarm the public?




It's no surprise you didn't get the significance of my statement and I haven't any doubt you're not alone over there. That is because Putin-Trump are the government now, not OB or any Democrat, so it's the Democratic Party and other Constitutionalists the government and the General Right have to fear.

In other words the Putin Trump government with its state force will not be coming after the massively armed lunatic Right that supports it. The state will be and is coming after its domestic political and cultural opponents. However, the armed forces that are sworn to the Constitution will defend it against all enemies foreign and domestic, the Constitution being of, by and for We the People.

Washington and the Founders as a whole intended the armed forces to be the final bulwark against a tyrant ruler, hence the military oath to the Constitution that became the first law of the first session of the first Congress. It's thereby a reversal and irony of ironies impacting the Right only that the Right are on the same side as the present government of Putin Trump while being against we the people and our Constitution. Indeed the armed forces oath being to the Constitution, ie, We the People, means the armed forces and their chiefs and commanders will defend We the People against the tyrants and their armed up Rowers foreign and domestic.
 
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It's no surprise you didn't get the significance of my statement and I haven't any doubt you're not alone over there. That is because Putin-Trump are the government now, not OB or any Democrat, so it's the Democratic Party and other Constitutionalists the government and the General Right have to fear.

In other words the Putin Trump government with its state force will not be coming after the massively armed lunatic Right that supports it. The state will be and is coming after its domestic political and cultural opponents. However, the armed forces that are sworn to the Constitution will defend it against all enemies foreign and domestic, the Constitution being of, by and for We the People.

Washington and the Founders as a whole intended the armed forces to be the final bulwark against a tyrant ruler, hence the military oath to the Constitution that became the first law of the first session of the first Congress. It's thereby a reversal and irony of ironies impacting the Right only that the Right are on the same side as the present government of Putin Trump while being against we the people and our Constitution. Indeed the armed forces oath being to the Constitution, ie, We the People, means the armed forces and their chiefs and commanders will defend We the People against the tyrants and their armed up Rowers foreign and domestic.

The putin bit is just nutty. And it is the Trump haters who want to disarm honest Americans. Nut case Biden said he wants to hire a guy who wants to confiscate firearms from honest Americans to execute his anti gun agenda
 
The putin bit is just nutty. And it is the Trump haters who want to disarm honest Americans. Nut case Biden said he wants to hire a guy who wants to confiscate firearms from honest Americans to execute his anti gun agenda

Your referring to "a guy" is vague and it does not merit a respectable response. Your choice -- or compulsion -- of diction is not debatable besides.

The reality remains the Right has always been armed against a government it does not trust, believe or have confidence in. Now however the Right has a government it worships as members of its Cult. So your in the home arsenals of military weapons are no longer directed against every government because you don't trust government per se. The home arsenals are now applicable to your enemies political and cultural right here in the homeland, ie, Democrats and other Constitutionalists.

The honest people are those who remain true to the Constitution -- and there are many of us. Indeed the oath keepers are on this side over here, not over there, to include the armed forces being on the side of the Constitution because they have the moral and legal obligation to protect We the People against all enemies foreign and domestic starting with those who are armed already in their shifting, sinister intents and purposes.
 
Your referring to "a guy" is vague and it does not merit a respectable response. Your choice -- or compulsion -- of diction is not debatable besides.

The reality remains the Right has always been armed against a government it does not trust, believe or have confidence in. Now however the Right has a government it worships as members of its Cult. So your in the home arsenals of military weapons are no longer directed against every government because you don't trust government per se. The home arsenals are now applicable to your enemies political and cultural right here in the homeland, ie, Democrats and other Constitutionalists.

The honest people are those who remain true to the Constitution -- and there are many of us. Indeed the oath keepers are on this side over here, not over there, to include the armed forces being on the side of the Constitution because they have the moral and legal obligation to protect We the People against all enemies foreign and domestic starting with those who are armed already in their shifting, sinister intents and purposes.

fascists seek to disarm those who don't agree with them. The people who want to do that are not the Trump supporters but rather Democrats
 
What a loaded question: Is Trump a Fascist?

Plenty people on this site have proven to be clueless about the term. Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy. Key elements include anti-democracy, a planned economy, militarism, racism, traditional gender roles, a one party system, and control of the media.

- Unions between businesses and the State, with the state telling the business what to do, with nominally private ownership. This was "Corporatism" in Italy and "National Socialism" in Germany, with the redistribution of wealth <---aspects of communism, in which the Nazi morons were infamous for hating.

- A single charismatic leader who has ultimate authority. Advisers to the Government are generally picked by merit (loyalty) rather than election and cronyism is common.

- The social structure is believed necessary to prevent chaos within Italian Fascism, with racism not being a real issue (and not at all originally). However, all class distinctions are eliminated within German Naziism (<--- communism again), with these fascists believing in a "superior" race.

- The economic system includes large deficit spending.

- Discriminatory against race, gender, the mentally or physical handicapped, homosexuals, trade unions, and all ideological and political opposition.

- Ultra-nationalists who identify strongly with other Nationalistic nations and leaders. Distrust internationalism and rarely abide by international agreements. Fascists do not believe in the concept of international law.

- War is good for the morale of the nation and a means to attain glory. War also has no negative effect on the economy since the economy revolves around war making.


Clearly, looking at only Trump as that "fascist" is deceitful:

* American business practice includes corporatism, in which specific and select corporations receive tax-subsidies and bailouts in order to preserve a competitive edge that makes our country stronger.

* The GOP practices political court stacking, poll closures, actual voter fraud, voter restrictions, and the promotion of the electoral college to avoid the popular vote.

* Trump has captured the hearts of a great percentage of American people in what is clearly a cult-like relationship with a populist demagogue. We are talking about the average American conservative who blindly supports a walking anti-thesis to conservatism.

* Trump is fond of appointing inexperienced family members to high level positions, while firing and appointing department figures based on their personal loyalties to him.

* Trump has spent years threatening the Senate into obedience and persistently railing against and manipulating the judicial, seeking to promote himself as a single individual of worth and authority.

* The average American conservative guards the wealth of the one percent, while excusing their tax-free privileges, in order to maintain the class structure in what they consistently delude themselves into believing a class war is in play.

* Racism is an underlying element among the American right.

* Today's conservative America, since Reagan, is fond of expanding government, deficit spending, and increased debt.

* Trump did ridicule the handicapped and women on the campaign trail, for which he earned conservative laughter. Conservatives are fond of labeling "the left" as the enemy of America, while labeling Democrats socialists, fascists, and communists. <---proving that terminology ignorance.

* Trump is on record for praising right-wing governments in Europe, while clinging to right-wing media. Trump did suggest that he could launch a state-run media. He actually declared that FOX wasn't doing a good "job for us" anymore.

* The average conservative rails against international organizations with hatred. Trump does ignore and renege on international agreements and deals. For that matter, the American history is full of betraying those we have made deals with. Find a Native American and ask him. We did shove the international definition of waterboarding aside. We do refuse the ICC. Trump did call NATO obsolete. We do not trust the UN.

* War is good for morale in our country. We have been at war for nineteen years with most of America merely shrugging and our economy doing well. Our politicians do emit false patriotism by anointing our troops as crusaders in the righteous struggle for freedom, while issuing gross defense contracts to promote more and more war. For that matter, our entire history is one of documented war-making, contrary to the myths.




Trump is a fascist wannabe in a system that won't easily allow it. But the system does involve aspects of fascism. And most people defaulted to assuming "no." Don't get me started on the word socialist.
 
What a loaded question: Is Trump a Fascist?

Space limitations are why I merely quoted the first part of your post so you'd get notification

Both Clintons and most of the clown show who ran for the Democratic Party Nomination are as much wannabe fascists as Trump. If we did a review of who has appointed family members to government positions, or gained their offspring high paying jobs that the kids are not really qualified for-which party would be the most featured?
 
if the Trump haters really believed that, I don't think they would be constantly insulting him. And if the man was truly a fascist, why is it that the Trump HATERS are the ones who want to disarm the public?

The Trump "haters" are just as clueless about matters as those who suck deep on his crank. And Trump is insulted, because he earns it. One doesn't get to be an absolute piece of **** on every level, going down as one of America's worst presidents in history for various reasons, and not be called an absolute piece of ****.

Trump absolutely does show aspects of fascism, which makes sense because it is his autocratic position in corporate business and why he can't negotiate within the bureaucracy of a democracy without exhibiting a seething hatred towards its institutions. Your rush to defend the piece of **** is just as bad as those who seek to insult simply to insult.

But our capitalist/democratic nation itself includes aspects of fascism and socialism. Do you think bailing out banks and certain industries was about a free market? Do you think offering tax-subsidies to specific industries promote capitalist competition for the little guy who doesn't own a Senator? Do you not see how we use our military and the obnoxious push to bloat the Defense system as a means to promote national glory, and as really the only means by which we define ourselves anymore? Do not liberals and conservatives receive Social Security and Medicare, with conservatives of all ages raging against socialism?

And stop your whining about wanting to own a military arsenal. Get over it. You are not on the front lines of a crusade trying to defend your liberty against an oppressive government trying to take your toys away.
 
The Trump "haters" are just as clueless about matters as those who suck deep on his crank. And Trump is insulted, because he earns it. One doesn't get to be an absolute piece of **** on every level, going down as one of America's worst presidents in history for various reasons, and not be called an absolute piece of ****.

Trump absolutely does show aspects of fascism, which makes sense because it is his autocratic position in corporate business and why he can't negotiate within the bureaucracy of a democracy without exhibiting a seething hatred towards its institutions. Your rush to defend the piece of **** is just as bad as those who seek to insult simply to insult.

But our capitalist/democratic nation itself includes aspects of fascism and socialism. Do you think bailing out banks and certain industries was about a free market? Do you think offering tax-subsidies to specific industries promote capitalist competition for the little guy who doesn't own a Senator? Do you not see how we use our military and the obnoxious push to bloat the Defense system as a means to promote national glory, and as really the only means by which we define ourselves anymore? Do not liberals and conservatives receive Social Security and Medicare, with conservatives of all ages raging against socialism?

And stop your whining about wanting to own a military arsenal. Get over it. You are not on the front lines of a crusade trying to defend your liberty against an oppressive government trying to take your toys away.

More centurion nonsense from someone who hates the second amendment. People who believe the nonsense you do are precisely why civilians need to be well armed.
 
When Bernie sanders is labeled a communist....you must label trump a fascist.


It balances it out
 
It's no surprise you didn't get the significance of my statement and I haven't any doubt you're not alone over there. That is because Putin-Trump are the government now, not OB or any Democrat, so it's the Democratic Party and other Constitutionalists the government and the General Right have to fear.

In other words the Putin Trump government with its state force will not be coming after the massively armed lunatic Right that supports it. The state will be and is coming after its domestic political and cultural opponents. However, the armed forces that are sworn to the Constitution will defend it against all enemies foreign and domestic, the Constitution being of, by and for We the People.

Washington and the Founders as a whole intended the armed forces to be the final bulwark against a tyrant ruler, hence the military oath to the Constitution that became the first law of the first session of the first Congress. It's thereby a reversal and irony of ironies impacting the Right only that the Right are on the same side as the present government of Putin Trump while being against we the people and our Constitution. Indeed the armed forces oath being to the Constitution, ie, We the People, means the armed forces and their chiefs and commanders will defend We the People against the tyrants and their armed up Rowers foreign and domestic.

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Space limitations are why I merely quoted the first part of your post so you'd get notification

Fine by me. Always feel free to do this. I know what I write.

Both Clintons and most of the clown show who ran for the Democratic Party Nomination are as much wannabe fascists as Trump. If we did a review of who has appointed family members to government positions, or gained their offspring high paying jobs that the kids are not really qualified for-which party would be the most featured?

Well, I would have to actually look into that. Notice that I routinely never simply drop blanket statements without providing evidence. For example, you may have wanted to present John F. Kennedy, who appointed his brother, Robert Kennedy, as the Attorney General. But then I would reply by showing you that he not only had the documented credentials, but also experience. In other words, aside from being John's brother, he was also qualified.

They all practice a bit of cronyism. But nobody in the Democratic Party or the GOP has ever come close to the nepotism and sheer abandonment of professionalism and expertise as the Trump administration has. The man actually appointed his daughter, with her bachelor's degree, as his senior adviser. True education and in-depth exposure starts after the bachelor's level. This means that he bypassed the nation's wealth of doctorates and real world experience in order to place his daughter in a position of historical great importance for our nation. Who better to advise him than his own loyal and obedient daughter? How about almost anybody else who has actual experience and won't help the man walk down an ignorant path.

He gave his son-in-law, a man with an MBA and absolutely no education or experience in Middle eastern affairs or American foreign policy, the responsibility of coming up with a Middle East peace plan, bypassing the nation's wealth of experience in international studies, diplomacy, and history.

And Trump is proving to increase his basis of appointments on sheer loyalty alone. He spent the last three years watching professionals walk out on him or firing them for choosing nation over Trump. But cronyism wasn't the only aspect of fascism I provided. Cronyism, alone, won't do it, anymore than a trigger is a gun. I'm sure you get that analogy.
 
Your referring to "a guy" is vague and it does not merit a respectable response. Your choice -- or compulsion -- of diction is not debatable besides.

The reality remains the Right has always been armed against a government it does not trust, believe or have confidence in. Now however the Right has a government it worships as members of its Cult. So your in the home arsenals of military weapons are no longer directed against every government because you don't trust government per se. The home arsenals are now applicable to your enemies political and cultural right here in the homeland, ie, Democrats and other Constitutionalists.

The honest people are those who remain true to the Constitution -- and there are many of us. Indeed the oath keepers are on this side over here, not over there, to include the armed forces being on the side of the Constitution because they have the moral and legal obligation to protect We the People against all enemies foreign and domestic starting with those who are armed already in their shifting, sinister intents and purposes.

“A wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.”

— Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801

“There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.”

— John Adams, Notes for an Oration at Braintree, Massachusetts, 1772

“The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all.”

— Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Abigail Adams, February 22, 1787

“Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.”

— Thomas Paine, Common Sense, 1776

We remained armed for good reason. Just look at Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden. Both want to confiscate (INFRINGE) guns from law abiding citizens.
You people actually entertained the idea of having a communist for President. :shock:
 
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