Is relocating illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities/states a good idea?

[Puigb]

I'm waiting for the day when they start saying that they never supported him in the first place. Look how many of them lie and say "Oh we knew Mexico wouldn't pay for the wall".

Like I said, only Jim Jones did it better. Look how well that worked out for his supporters.

That day will come the moment he's out of office. Hopefully in 2020.

 

[Nickyjo]

You do know that not all employers are conservatives, right?

Of course. As the saying goes, "no generalization is worth a damn, even this one."

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Nice work, Rev, for real.

Thanks I'm pretty proud, your actions are of the same mindset and should be commended, I may have come off like a jerk but I did say I was on a private jet and well, we imibded, it wasn't my intent.


People who drive that far for the smallest of even feral creatures are good people in my book.

 

[vesper]

It's worked. Look how many Trump supporters twist themselves into pretzels about these horrible illegals coming here to rape and kill us all.

Trump knows better than anyone I've ever seen how to play his supporters. Only one person in history ever did it better. That would be Jim Jones.

I really tired of the happy horse poop lacing this forum with unfounded crap.

Long before Trump even ran for president, people were outraged over the increase in crime with much of it had to do with illegal immigrants.

In 2014 Illegals accounted for 3/4 of federal drug possession sentences.
Illegals account for almost 3/4 of drug possession sentences

Almost 50 percent of federal crimes were committed near the Mexico border. A report from the Department of Justice in 2014 claimed.

The rise of heinous gang members who entered this country illegally were on the rise and so was their hideous criminal activity.

Cases of human trafficking were increasing at alarming rates.

Almost 50 percent of federal crimes were committed near the Mexico border according to a report from the Department of Justice in 2014.

Of the 61,529 criminal cases initiated by federal prosecutors last fiscal year, more than 40%—or 24,746—were filed in court districts neighboring the Mexican border. This includes Arizona, New Mexico, Southern California, Western Texas and Southern Texas. The two Texas districts each had more than double the convictions of all four federal court districts in the state of New York combined, according to the DOJ report. The Western Texas District had the nation’s heaviest crime flow, with 6,341 cases filed by the feds. In Southern Texas 6,130 cases were filed, 4,848 in Southern California, 3,889 in New Mexico and 3,538 in Arizona.
Not surprisingly, most of the offenses were immigration related. In fact, 38.6% of all federal cases (23,744) filed last year involved immigration, the DOJ report confirms. Nearly 22% (13,383) were drug related, 19.7% (12,123) were violent crimes and 10.2% (6,300) involved white-collar offenses that include a full range of frauds committed by business and government professionals. This is hardly earth-shattering news in fact, the nation’s southern border region has for years been known for its high crime rate compared to the rest of the country.

9 Things You Need To Know About Illegal Immigration And Crime | Daily Wire

According to Fox News in 2014,:
13.6 percent of those sentenced for all committed crimes in the country were illegal immigrants
12 percent of murder sentences were given to illegal immigrants
16 percent of trafficking sentences were given to illegal immigrants.

Crime and illegal immigrants has been a problem long before Trump showed up on the scene and people know it. Your anti-Trump horse**** is just that..... horse****.

 

[Nickyjo]

It's a good common sense answer to the democrats constant complaining about detaining illegals and separating families. As usual its the common sense part liberals don't get. Their answer is always blame Trump. Well I have news for you Trump didn't create the problem and is trying to solve it without any reasonable help from democrats who can only look at 2020 and any means or any neglect of the country in the meantime.

No, the current problem has its roots in corrupt, incompetent governments, poverty, and a healthy dose of US foreign policy.

But let's step back and moment and think about what Trump is suggesting. (It won't happen.) This low life piece of garbage whom we are unfortunate enough to have as president is proposing retaliating against his political opponents by using the bodies of people towards whom he has a legal obligation and who may been traumatized by violence or hunger in their home countries or on their journey to retaliate against his political opponents. That is lost in the debate.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Yes. Democrats want 'em...then I say GIVE THEM TO 'EM!

Then sit back and laugh when Democrats screech hypocrisy about how they don't want them in their towns.

Democrats are happy to take them. At least they will be safe as their asylum applications are duly and lawfully processed.

 

[X Factor]

Thanks I'm pretty proud, your actions are of the same mindset and should be commended, I may have come off like a jerk but I did say I was on a private jet and well, we imibded, it wasn't my intent.


People who drive that far for the smallest of even feral creatures are good people in my book.

Thank you and no worries. I can get needlessly defensive about, probably, too many things but never about my passion for animals or what I would do to help them.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Thank you and no worries. I can get needlessly defensive about, probably, too many things but never about my passion for animals or what I would do to help them.

ARe you part of a group or did you do this individually?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

So let me get this straight... Trump's gone from 'zero tolerance', to 'completely closing the border', to now 'busing the illegals to parts of the US'? lol

And the mindless Trumpsters will STILL refuse to call out their liar and chief. After-all he is targeting Blue states, and revenge and hatred and racism is what the modern GOP is all about. And the Trumpsters love that.

The scarier part of this dumping boondoggle is that it is part Castro Mariel Boatlift, part Bhagwan Shree Rashneesh.
Trump did not separate out criminal aliens, he just wanted to ship them all, a la Fidel Castro. He wanted to empty the jails and criminal detention facilities.
The Bhagwan sent his followers out to gather thousands of homeless people to bring to Antelope, Oregon to stuff the ballot boxes in the Rajneeshees' favor, so they could take over the town (and later the county and state). When the homeless were no longer of use, he dumped them in Portland and other Oregon cities.

Trump's story has a lot in common with both Castro and the Bhagwan.
And all of it is driven by his pathological desire for revenge.
Chapter Six of Trump's book "Think Big" is devoted to REVENGE. The entire chapter is devoted to revenge. It's the title of Chapter Six. Trump devotes about 80% of his energy to revenge. It is a drug that he mainlines into his gut. He lives for revenge.

 

[Puigb]

I really tired of the happy horse poop lacing this forum with unfounded crap.

Long before Trump even ran for president, people were outraged over the increase in crime with much of it had to do with illegal immigrants.

In 2014 Illegals accounted for 3/4 of federal drug possession sentences.
Illegals account for almost 3/4 of drug possession sentences

Almost 50 percent of federal crimes were committed near the Mexico border. A report from the Department of Justice in 2014 claimed.

The rise of heinous gang members who entered this country illegally were on the rise and so was their hideous criminal activity.

Cases of human trafficking were increasing at alarming rates.

Almost 50 percent of federal crimes were committed near the Mexico border according to a report from the Department of Justice in 2014.

Of the 61,529 criminal cases initiated by federal prosecutors last fiscal year, more than 40%—or 24,746—were filed in court districts neighboring the Mexican border. This includes Arizona, New Mexico, Southern California, Western Texas and Southern Texas. The two Texas districts each had more than double the convictions of all four federal court districts in the state of New York combined, according to the DOJ report. The Western Texas District had the nation’s heaviest crime flow, with 6,341 cases filed by the feds. In Southern Texas 6,130 cases were filed, 4,848 in Southern California, 3,889 in New Mexico and 3,538 in Arizona.
Not surprisingly, most of the offenses were immigration related. In fact, 38.6% of all federal cases (23,744) filed last year involved immigration, the DOJ report confirms. Nearly 22% (13,383) were drug related, 19.7% (12,123) were violent crimes and 10.2% (6,300) involved white-collar offenses that include a full range of frauds committed by business and government professionals. This is hardly earth-shattering news in fact, the nation’s southern border region has for years been known for its high crime rate compared to the rest of the country.

9 Things You Need To Know About Illegal Immigration And Crime | Daily Wire

According to Fox News in 2014,:
13.6 percent of those sentenced for all committed crimes in the country were illegal immigrants
12 percent of murder sentences were given to illegal immigrants
16 percent of trafficking sentences were given to illegal immigrants.

Crime and illegal immigrants has been a problem long before Trump showed up on the scene and people know it. Your anti-Trump horse**** is just that..... horse****.

nothing you posted refuted what she said. Trump is just another standard GOP politician using the issue of illegal immigration for votes. And that's a fact.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

That's why Trump needs concentration camps.

What a disgusting thing to say, This cheapens the very real horror of the holocaust

 

[X Factor]

ARe you part of a group or did you do this individually?

Right now I’m just a volunteer transporter for a local wildlife rehab facility. I wish I could volunteer more time there but damn real work gets in the way.

 

[mike2810]

No, the current problem has its roots in corrupt, incompetent governments, poverty, and a healthy dose of US foreign policy.

But let's step back and moment and think about what Trump is suggesting. (It won't happen.) This low life piece of garbage whom we are unfortunate enough to have as president is proposing retaliating against his political opponents by using the bodies of people towards whom he has a legal obligation and who may been traumatized by violence or hunger in their home countries or on their journey to retaliate against his political opponents. That is lost in the debate.

Didn't the local and State politicians who support and passed resolutions naming their town/city a sanctuary for illegals started this mess before Trump?
What is the political motive behind sanctuary cities?
Are you ok with sanctuary cities snubbing federal authority? (I asked another poster in post 74.)

Personally, I think it is a idea worth implementing.

 

[vesper]

nothing you posted refuted what she said. Trump is just another standard GOP politician using the issue of illegal immigration for votes. And that's a fact.

Oh more bull****! Yes what I posted did indeed refute what she posted. The Trump administration has done more in busting trafficking rings, major drug busts and arresting and deporting gang members than anytime before in recent history. His administration are doing everything they can to try and secure the southern border while the left sits on their asses conspiring ways to thwart their efforts whether it is some Obama leftist activist judges in the 9th Circus court or politicians who refuse to do their damn job and fix our broken immigration laws. People haven't forgotten how bad things were before Trump but they see an administration now trying to change things being faced with a bunch of bull**** on the left.

Today was Trump's greatest troll on the left when he said he is considering sending all these people pouring through our border claiming asylum to sanctuary cities.

 

[Puigb]

Oh more bull****! Yes what I posted did indeed refute what she posted. The Trump administration has done more in busting trafficking rings, major drug busts and arresting and deporting gang members than anytime before in recent history. His administration are doing everything they can to try and secure the southern border while the left sits on their asses conspiring ways to thwart their efforts whether it is some Obama leftist activist judges in the 9th Circus court or politicians who refuse to do their damn job and fix our broken immigration laws. People haven't forgotten how bad things were before Trump but they see an administration now trying to change things being faced with a bunch of bull**** on the left.

Today was Trump's greatest troll on the left when he said he is considering sending all these people pouring through our border claiming asylum to sanctuary cities.

boy, the Trump propaganda is strong with you.

 

[Integrityrespec]

They tried this in the 2018 mid-terms, and the result was 60 million people voting for the Dems and against the GOP. It would be political suicide for them to try it again in 2020, but Trump and the GOP aren't exactly "smart, so...

Didn't the OBama administration have the Whitehouse, the senate and the house for two years and they didn't touch immigration. Don't cry about republicans doing what democrats did.

 

[Puigb]

Didn't the OBama administration have the Whitehouse, the senate and the house for two years and they didn't touch immigration. Don't cry about republicans doing what democrats did.

So Trump and Republicans are as bad as the EVIL Democrats? Damn, that's not going to sit well with your fellow right wingers here.

 

[X Factor]

Didn't the OBama administration have the Whitehouse, the senate and the house for two years and they didn't touch immigration. Don't cry about republicans doing what democrats did.

As a righty, I did and will cry about the opportunity that Repubs squandered. Yes, it was just like with Obama and the Dems but that’s why we should have known better than to follow suit.

 

[jamesrage]

Attaching poll.

I am going to have to say no after thinking about this for awhile. Because originally I thought hey this is a good idea. That if states and cities want to thumb their noses at anti-illegal immigration laws then dump illegals in their sanctuary states and cities if we can't deport them so they can be financially drained. But currently the census is used determine how much representation a state is allowed to have. The illegal alien salad tossers(I would say illegal alien ass kissers but what the do goes way beyond ass kissing) in office will try to make sure the census won't differentiate between someone who is and isn't here legally and someone who can legally vote. Meaning states can use their illegal alien population to boost their representation. As long as that can happen states can benefit from tossing the salad of illegal aliens and those that aid and harbor them. If we can 't the census differentiate in the Census between which adults can legally vote in federal elections and those that can't then sure dump the illegals in sanctuary states.

 

[X Factor]

So Trump and Republicans are as bad as the EVIL Democrats? Damn, that's not going to sit well with your fellow right wingers here.

Personally, I have respect for someone who can acknowledge that there isn’t anything one “side” does that the other side isn’t guilty of as well. It’s pretty rare.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

As a righty, I did and will cry about the opportunity that Repubs squandered. Yes, it was just like with Obama and the Dems but that’s why we should have known better than to follow suit.

Except the Dems did not actually HAVE a "veto-proof majority" for more than 72 days and most of them were split into tiny week long spurts because Congress wasn't in session most of the time.

The Myth of the Filibuster-proof Democratic Senate

But you guys KNOW this, you just like repeating lies because it makes you feel better.
We get it, or rather...we're starting to get it. You guys think it's okay to break the law, cheat, lie, steal, you're even ready to start a hot shooting war if you don't get your way.

But pretty much all of it begins with the fact that you feel it's okay to spin gigantic lies to justify what you do, lies about Hitler being a socialist, lies about how Democrats hate civil rights, lies about how Democrats all want open borders, lies about how America is not a democracy, lies about Democrats running supposed child sex slave rings in Pizza parlors, even lies about how "nationalism is the same as patriotism"...that's the latest right wing lie.
There is no limit to the number of alternate reality bubbles you will inflate to justify what you're trying to do.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Right now I’m just a volunteer transporter for a local wildlife rehab facility. I wish I could volunteer more time there but damn real work gets in the way.

does the " local wildlife rehab facility" take donations? I'd love to make one if I could. I'd understand if you were hesitant.

 

[vesper]

boy, the Trump propaganda is strong with you.

No the truth is strong with me.

You know maybe it is time for Trump to direct thousands of those claiming asylum not just to sanctuary cities but to all these leftist elitists politician neighborhoods who have removed all differentials between legal and illegal immigration that do not show any diversity in their own communities of the rich and famous. Add to that the Hollywood elites too. Let them care for them. Let them school their children, let them provide healthcare, shelter and food. Sounds like a wonderful idea. They asked for it, now its time to give it to them.

 

[PIPEWRENCH]

It is precisely our laws that prevent deporting them if they know the magic words to get an asylum hearing within the next few years.

That is the reason for the wall and a secure border. They can apply and wait on the other side until approved. Why should I pay to house and feed these people. There are millions of law abiding people all over the world waiting in their country patiently to come here legally. But no the left wants a bunch lawless losers instead.

 

[Grand Mal]

That’s pretty much my understanding of the term.

Thanks.
Sounds like a deliberately inflammatory term for a city mayor not wanting his cops tracking down illegal immigrants when gangsters and drug dealers are shooting the place up but it sure appeals to the hyper-partisan elements. Rolls nicely off the tongue too, don't it? Sanctuary city. Easy if you're in Des Moines, Iowa to snear at Los Angeles trying to maximize limited budget resources and refusing to put police on illegal immigration issues when they'd have to be taken off other, more immediately dangerous criminal activity.
Say, why doesn't the federal government provide funding for police in those 'sanctuary cities' so they can hire and train cops dedicated to enforcing immigration laws? City budgets being what they are and priorities having to be decided on, I mean.