Is it Possible to Have a Plutonic Relationship?

[CannonballB]

I'm not sure what "bagging" is. I assume to you mean, "ragging". I'm not ragging on anyone. I'm happy for people who have healthy and fulfilling sexual relationships, no matter who they are. So to say that a gay relationship is more fulfilling than a straight one is not only ****ing bull****, it's heterophobic and bigoted.

You are correct in that I am not getting laid enough. I'm glad you are! Bravo.

As far as you, "training" me - I'm not saying I'm not open to it - I'm just not into it - perhaps I just haven't met the right guy yet. Send me a selfie (not a dick pic!) and lets see if you're the first dude I've ever been attracted to - if I am, I say, "let's get this party started!".

Take care my possible future boyfriend

P.S. I got laid last night my friend - She's a six foot tall, red-haired, blue-eyed bbw and she rocked my world! <gasp> I hope that didn't gross you out too much!

I'm just sayin'

OK First things first, I've never, ever said that gay relationships were more fulfilling than straight ones. I said that it seems like straight people have more hangups. I didn't accuse all straight people of anything.

As far as being heterophobic and bigoted though... I'll be honest, bluntly, all I can do is roll my eyes and laugh at that comment. If all I've ever experienced is gay relationships, I really can't speak to how fulfilling straight relationships are, can I? So no, I'm neither heterophobic or bigoted. Though to be frank, I think gay people have a right to be. We've been trampled on, used as scapegoats, hell we get called child molesters STILL, sometimes by people on this board! So if I WERE to be heterophobic and a bigot, I think I've had enough experience to say that it warrants that. I know you and most people will disagree, but that's also why I say I'm not, because I can be logical about these things

Bagging is the same thing as ragging, yes. Urban Dictionary: bagging on

RE: you and a boyfriend... wait you like BBWs? While I don't have a vag and I do have a beard, I'm a big bear. Maybe I COULD trip your trigger!! XD Although I'm not 6-foot tall either (5'4). I'm not a red-head, I don't even have a lot of hair left! But I do have blue eyes!!! I'm gettin' closer to your type!

Last comment - why would you talking about having sex with a woman be gross to me? I am honestly confused at that one. Oh duh, I'm guessing it stems from me being heterophobic.

 

[CannonballB]

Do you care if your wife enjoys sex with you? Do you care if she comes? If you don't answer the question this will be the last we speak.

If it's transactional, he cares! If he's not getting "anything" out of it though, then he can't be bothered LOL

 

[lurchadams]

OK First things first, I've never, ever said that gay relationships were more fulfilling than straight ones. I said that it seems like straight people have more hangups. I didn't accuse all straight people of anything.

So.. you claim to know nothing about straight people's sex life EXCEPT you claim straight people have sexual hangups. Dude, people who have hangups be they puritanical, germaphobic, or frigid by their very definition have less-fulfilling sex lives. So what you're doing is making assumptions about things you have NO CLUE ABOUT - i.e., straight people being sexually hung up and you're lying about your intent. Not a good way to go, my dishonest friend.

As far as being heterophobic and bigoted though... I'll be honest, bluntly, all I can do is roll my eyes and laugh at that comment. If all I've ever experienced is gay relationships, I really can't speak to how fulfilling straight relationships are, can I? So no, I'm neither heterophobic or bigoted.

Again, then how can you make the claim straight people have more hangups when you claim you don't know if straight relationships are more or less fulfilling? You really don't see how you're contradicting yourself, do you?

Though to be frank, I think gay people have a right to be. We've been trampled on, used as scapegoats, hell we get called child molesters STILL, sometimes by people on this board! So if I WERE to be heterophobic and a bigot, I think I've had enough experience to say that it warrants that. I know you and most people will disagree, but that's also why I say I'm not, because I can be logical about these things

Well, my friend, you're not facing any of those bigoted assumptions from me. I think trampling on folks for the people they choose to love is as rotten as gay people making assumptions about straight people's sex lives. Don't comment negatively on things you don't know **** about and I won't have to call you on it.

Bagging is the same thing as ragging, yes.

I actually knew what you meant by the context in which you communicated it, but thanks, Captain Obvious.

RE: you and a boyfriend... wait you like BBWs? While I don't have a vag and I do have a beard, I'm a big bear. Maybe I COULD trip your trigger!! XD Although I'm not 6-foot tall either (5'4). I'm not a red-head, I don't even have a lot of hair left! But I do have blue eyes!!! I'm gettin' closer to your type!

Well, I'm watching my PM inbox for your selfie, lover. Fire away, when ready!

Last comment - why would you talking about having sex with a woman be gross to me? I am honestly confused at that one. Oh duh, I'm guessing it stems from me being heterophobic.

Because I think you're idiotic for commenting on something you don't know **** about. I'd never make assumptions about whether gay people have any more or less sexual hangups than straight people because I'd have to have sex with at least a representative sample of gay people, maybe 10 or 20 gay guys, find out what their hangups are, then record them for my Masters Thesis on gay hangups. Have you done that with women? No? Then shut the **** up about straight people's sex lives, my friend.

P.S.: This Amazonian goddess I was with last night - she had this thing where she would come if I pinned her down and gently nibbled on her ears - I couldn't believe it - I had never seen anything that awesome before! She also loved being gone down on - her ***** tasted like cumin-spiced honey. She loved devouring me as well. She just texted me and wants to meet again tomorrow. I'm pretty excited!

 

[SDET]

If it's transactional, he cares! If he's not getting "anything" out of it though, then he can't be bothered LOL

That's right! A happy worker is a good worker!

 

[SDET]

Do you care if your wife enjoys sex with you? Do you care if she comes? If you don't answer the question this will be the last we speak.

Of course, she tries harder if she is aroused. Besides that, I enjoy watching a woman get horny; it's fun. However, your "blackmail" speaks ill of you.

 

[SDET]

Wait, what? How does one have a platonic conquest? What are you thinking platonic means?

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There are other kinds of conquests besides sexual.

 

[lurchadams]

If it's transactional, he cares! If he's not getting "anything" out of it though, then he can't be bothered LOL

He ignored the question the first time. If he's not ashamed of himself why won't he just answer?

 

[SDET]

I'm not sure what "bagging" is. I assume to you mean, "ragging". I'm not ragging on anyone. I'm happy for people who have healthy and fulfilling sexual relationships, no matter who they are. So to say that a gay relationship is more fulfilling than a straight one is not only ****ing bull****, it's heterophobic and bigoted.

You are correct in that I am not getting laid enough. I'm glad you are! Bravo.

As far as you, "training" me - I'm not saying I'm not open to it - I'm just not into it - perhaps I just haven't met the right guy yet. Send me a selfie (not a dick pic!) and lets see if you're the first dude I've ever been attracted to - if I am, I say, "let's get this party started!".

Take care my possible future boyfriend

P.S. I got laid last night my friend - She's a six foot tall, red-haired, blue-eyed bbw and she rocked my world! <gasp> I hope that didn't gross you out too much!

I'm just sayin'

There's no such thing as getting laid enough. Beyond that, the hunt is half the fun. However, if you learn Spanish and go to Bogota, you'll come awfully close to getting laid enough.

 

[marke]

Yeah, yeah. You're late to the party. Either you haven't read the thread where a bunch of folks have already pointed it out or you're an idiot. Just hope folks are more understanding with you when you make a spelling error. Have a great weekend.

Sorry about your embarrassment from so many people making fun of your error. Try not to take it personally. Sorry for the late hit. I did not read through all the responses before answering the first post I came to.

 

[lwf]

Is it possible to have a plutonic relationship with a woman if you're a man and you both are hetero?

My life experience tells me, "no". If you like each other, eventually you're going to fool around. That's just the way it is.

I have a plutonic relationship with my sister.

 

[lurchadams]

Of course, she tries harder if she is aroused. Besides that, I enjoy watching a woman get horny; it's fun. However, your "blackmail" speaks ill of you.

I don't give a **** how you think of me. Think ill of me all I want. If you weren't ashamed of responding the first time and again when I asked you in a different thread to respond to the question, why didn't you until now?

"She tries harder when aroused" "You enjoy watching women get horny".

So it's all about YOU.

I think you're a non-empathetic, dark-souled, misogynistic dude, but I thank you for your honesty.

 

[lurchadams]

Sorry about your embarrassment from so many people making fun of your error. Try not to take it personally. Sorry for the late hit. I did not read through all the responses before answering the first post I came to.

Dude, you've got it wrong. The only person I'm embarrassed for is you.

 

[SDET]

I don't give a **** how you think of me. Think ill of me all I want. If you weren't ashamed of responding the first time and again when I asked you in a different thread to respond to the question, why didn't you until now?

"She tries harder when aroused" "You enjoy watching women get horny".

So it's all about YOU.

I think you're a non-empathetic, dark-souled, misogynistic dude, but I Thank you for your honesty.

Just call me CHAD.

 

[lurchadams]

There's no such thing as getting laid enough. Beyond that, the hunt is half the fun. However, if you learn Spanish and go to Bogota, you'll come awfully close to getting laid enough.

I don't need exploit poor latina women to get laid. I get laid because women who want to sleep with me LIKE me. I understand that concept is foreign to you and I'm sorry this is going to be hard to explain:

I am attracted to women who are independent thinkers, are strong willed, and who let me know what's on their mind. How boring and horrible it would be to coerce women to sleep with me, taking advantage of their financial issues. I'd feel like a piece of **** if I treated women that way. I'm sorry you don't.

 

[maquiscat]

What do you get out of the deal?

Friendship, gaming buddy, someone I can geek out with.

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[maquiscat]

You tell us, stud! You're the one bloviating about all your freak-fests. Teach us oh wordly one - we are but babes at your feet and you are the breasts that nourish us!

I'm not asking what it means, I'm asking what you think it means. Because these last couple of posts seem to indicate that you are working with a way different definition than the rest of us are.

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[maquiscat]

There are other kinds of conquests besides sexual.

But in the context of what he's saying about me? Seriously how is having platonic relationships making me more sexually enlightened and free? I'm not sure he's playing with a full dictionary here.

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[CannonballB]

Because I think you're idiotic for commenting on something you don't know **** about. I'd never make assumptions about whether gay people have any more or less sexual hangups than straight people because I'd have to have sex with at least a representative sample of gay people, maybe 10 or 20 gay guys, find out what their hangups are, then record them for my Masters Thesis on gay hangups. Have you done that with women? No? Then shut the **** up about straight people's sex lives, my friend.

I can sum up almost all of this with one sentence. I have lots of fag hags. No, I don't personally know what it's like to deal with straight people having hangups. I do, however, have a ton of fag hags, and they detail to me every. single. hangup either they or their men-friends have.

Stop acting like I brushed every single straight person with this brush that says "ALL YOU STRAIGHT PEOPLE HAVE HANGUPS!" I never said that, stop characterizing me as having done that. What I said was, in my experience (and I'll ****ing clarify here since it seems like you can't read between the lines), almost every straight person I have become close with has discussed with me the problems they have with their sex life. My response? Man I'm glad the homos don't have to ask if men and men can be "platonic" because we all **** anyway. Never mind the fact that you have to ask if men and women can be platonic (I won't bag on you anymore about the misspelling. You're right, you've gotten enough flack for it) shows that there are ****ing hangups everywhere.

Now, you can get all butthurt that I said that straight people have hangups, or you can ****ing listen to what I'm saying, INCLUDING that I don't speak for ANY straight people, I'm just stating what I've dealt with. I am speaking from MY experience with straight people, which is anecdotal. We get it, you don't have sexual hangups. Kudos to you. Also, you don't have to have sexual relations with a person to discuss their sexual hangups. Jesus ****, I'd think that'd be obvious, but again, feels like I gotta explain everything to you.

And if I thought you were being sincere with the whole selfie thing, I'd gladly send you a selfie. Not because I think you'd be attracted to me (you're straight, I'd not expect you to), but because it would be a funny little gag/conversation. But especially after your response to me? No thanks. I would be afraid that the next thing I'd see is my face as a meme. And as much as I love to post memes, I don't want to be one. I thought we were having some witty, fun banter here. I didn't realize that I'd somehow rubbed salt in your wounds because I was talking about my experiences. Thanks for setting me straight (no pun intended).

Also, you go wit your bad self! Get 'dat ass! I'm not normally a top, but I've started seeing this dude, he's also tall, 6'6 (he towers over me), but he's got at least a 7 incher. ****er hits some deep spots. And I ended up topping him. That's a rarity for me. I've seen him the last couple weekends and plan to see him again this weekend and next. we end up in bed for most of the day, ****ing off and on and making out and such. He almost makes me insta-cum when he bangs me. It's great. Also, why is it that, GENERALLY SPEAKING, when I see "I made her come", it's spelled "come" but if it's a dude, it's spelled "cum"? I've never understood that one. Why the differentiation? It's all about orgasms regardless, right? Also, THIS IS JUST MY EXPERIENCE, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR EVERYONE WHO TYPES OUT COME VS CUM!

Lastly, you can't really say "You can't experience it so you can't have an opinion!" I have opinions on lots of things I've never experienced. I've never experienced skydiving but I don't plan on jumping out of a plane anytime soon. I've never been to Egypt but I love the pyramids. I'm sure you're the same way. I would bet dollars to donuts that you have opinions on lots of things you haven't experienced. (And for the record, I have had sex with 2 women in my life, so I'm not ENTIRELY inexperienced in that realm. But I haven't had sex with a woman for many a year).

Edit - jesus christ dude, I'm reading the rest of your responses and you act like everyones coming at you! Calm down - no one is trying to knock you down or insulting you! Well, ok most people aren't. And most importantly to me, *I* am not trying to insult you. If you weren't being so defensive, I'd actually love to banter with you. You seem like you'd be fun. Oh sorry for being nice. I'll stop that.

 

[maquiscat]

I have a plutonic relationship with my sister.

Careful. You might get labeled as more kinky that I am ...

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[lurchadams]

Just call me CHAD.

Do you have dimples? That way I could call you, "dimpled Chad". Get it? "Dimpled chad"? It's a joke about when W. and the biased FL secretary of state stole the presidency from Al Gore?

I crack myself up!

 

[lurchadams]

I can sum up almost all of this with one sentence. I have lots of fag hags. No, I don't personally know what it's like to deal with straight people having hangups. I do, however, have a ton of fag hags, and they detail to me every. single. hangup either they or their men-friends have.

Stop acting like I brushed every single straight person with this brush that says "ALL YOU STRAIGHT PEOPLE HAVE HANGUPS!" I never said that, stop characterizing me as having done that. What I said was, in my experience (and I'll ****ing clarify here since it seems like you can't read between the lines), almost every straight person I have become close with has discussed with me the problems they have with their sex life. My response? Man I'm glad the homos don't have to ask if men and men can be "platonic" because we all **** anyway. Never mind the fact that you have to ask if men and women can be platonic (I won't bag on you anymore about the misspelling. You're right, you've gotten enough flack for it) shows that there are ****ing hangups everywhere.

Now, you can get all butthurt that I said that straight people have hangups, or you can ****ing listen to what I'm saying, INCLUDING that I don't speak for ANY straight people, I'm just stating what I've dealt with. I am speaking from MY experience with straight people, which is anecdotal. We get it, you don't have sexual hangups. Kudos to you. Also, you don't have to have sexual relations with a person to discuss their sexual hangups. Jesus ****, I'd think that'd be obvious, but again, feels like I gotta explain everything to you.

And if I thought you were being sincere with the whole selfie thing, I'd gladly send you a selfie. Not because I think you'd be attracted to me (you're straight, I'd not expect you to), but because it would be a funny little gag/conversation. But especially after your response to me? No thanks. I would be afraid that the next thing I'd see is my face as a meme. And as much as I love to post memes, I don't want to be one. I thought we were having some witty, fun banter here. I didn't realize that I'd somehow rubbed salt in your wounds because I was talking about my experiences. Thanks for setting me straight (no pun intended).

Also, you go wit your bad self! Get 'dat ass! I'm not normally a top, but I've started seeing this dude, he's also tall, 6'6 (he towers over me), but he's got at least a 7 incher. ****er hits some deep spots. And I ended up topping him. That's a rarity for me. I've seen him the last couple weekends and plan to see him again this weekend and next. we end up in bed for most of the day, ****ing off and on and making out and such. He almost makes me insta-cum when he bangs me. It's great. Also, why is it that, GENERALLY SPEAKING, when I see "I made her come", it's spelled "come" but if it's a dude, it's spelled "cum"? I've never understood that one. Why the differentiation? It's all about orgasms regardless, right? Also, THIS IS JUST MY EXPERIENCE, I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR EVERYONE WHO TYPES OUT COME VS CUM!

Lastly, you can't really say "You can't experience it so you can't have an opinion!" I have opinions on lots of things I've never experienced. I've never experienced skydiving but I don't plan on jumping out of a plane anytime soon. I've never been to Egypt but I love the pyramids. I'm sure you're the same way. I would bet dollars to donuts that you have opinions on lots of things you haven't experienced. (And for the record, I have had sex with 2 women in my life, so I'm not ENTIRELY inexperienced in that realm. But I haven't had sex with a woman for many a year).

Edit - jesus christ dude, I'm reading the rest of your responses and you act like everyones coming at you! Calm down - no one is trying to knock you down or insulting you! Well, ok most people aren't. And most importantly to me, *I* am not trying to insult you. If you weren't being so defensive, I'd actually love to banter with you. You seem like you'd be fun. Oh sorry for being nice. I'll stop that.

The bolded is really difficult to believe because I know a lot of straight men and women, too so I have some anecdotal evidence that contradicts yours my friend. Almost every straight person? Quit lying to me. When you want to have a mature, fact-based conversation, please - hmu.

The two women you slept with - just curious - what were their hangups?

You think I'd photoshop your selfie and distribute it to make fun of you? Really? We can just end this conversation now, friend if that's what you really think of me.

I think "cum" and "come" can be used interchangeably for both men and women. I mean, who cares as long as we make our lovers do it, am I right?

To your last sentence - I guess little lurch need time out.

 

[CannonballB]

I stopped reading at the bolded. Bull ****ing ****. I know a lot of straight men and women, too. Almost every straight person? Quit lying to me. When you want to have a mature, fact-based conversation, please - hmu.

I'm sorry, was the part where I said the ones I've gotten close to not clear enough? Jesus ****, you love to read into things that aren't there. I didn't say all straight people, I said the ones I've gotten close to.

You're right, talking to you is pointless and frustrating since all you read is what you want to read, and you don't bother reading into what the person actually meant. I feel sorry for you that you don't listen to try and understand where the person is coming from, you just listen so you can rage at them.

 

[GreatNews2night]

No, it's not possible to have a plutonic relationship between a man and a woman. Pluto is too far away, has no atmosphere, and our technology is currently not enough to colonize it, so, the man and the woman wouldn't, one, be able to get there, and two, be able to survive there in order to have a relationship. So, no.

On the other hand, it is perfectly possible to have a platonic relationship, but that's not what you asked, right?

LOL

 

[lurchadams]

I'm sorry, was the part where I said the ones I've gotten close to not clear enough? Jesus ****, you love to read into things that aren't there. I didn't say all straight people, I said the ones I've gotten close to.

You're right, talking to you is pointless and frustrating since all you read is what you want to read, and you don't bother reading into what the person actually meant. I feel sorry for you that you don't listen to try and understand where the person is coming from, you just listen so you can rage at them.

I'm sorry all the straight people you've gotten close to have been so ****ed up. I'm thinking these "straight people you've gotten close to" have more than just sexual problems.

Don't feel sorry for me friend. When folks spout off about things they know nothing about, I have a good time giving them ****. I'm having a good time with you, Bud. Don't go away mad, now!

PS: Your words from a previous post:

"If all I've ever experienced is gay relationships, I really can't speak to how fulfilling straight relationships are, can I?"

So - you say all your close straight friends have sexual problems which is what you based your original, erroneous claim on. Then above you say, you can't really speak to how fulfilling straight sex is - contradiction #2.

You also said later you've had sex with 2 women. It sounds like contrary to what you said above - you should know how fulfilling or not straight sex is - contradiction #3.

I'm saying this without anger and without snark - get your stories, "straight".

Get it? LOL

 

[CannonballB]

I'm sorry all the straight people you've gotten close to have been so ****ed up. I'm thinking these "straight people you've gotten close to" have more than just sexual problems.
Don't feel sorry for me friend. When folks spout off about things they know nothing about, I have a good time giving them ****. I'm having a good time with you, Bud. Don't go away mad, now!
PS: Your words from a previous post:
"If all I've ever experienced is gay relationships, I really can't speak to how fulfilling straight relationships are, can I?"
So - you say all your close straight friends have sexual problems which is what you based your original, erroneous claim on. Then above you say, you can't really speak to how fulfilling straight sex is - contradiction #2.
You also said later you've had sex with 2 women. It sounds like contrary to what you said above - you should know how fulfilling or not straight sex is - contradiction #3.

At this point, I think I'm done. You've beaten me, congrats. I'm sick of being browbeaten. I got better things to spend my energy on. Like beating off and getting dudes to come to my place. Luckily, I came home, took a couple THC pills, smoked a fattie (that's really just a vape pen with thc oil), and now I'm ****ing chill as **** and I'm about to play overwatch. LOL How about I do the unspoken part of your post: Instead of going away mad, I'll just go away

I've made it clear that I made no 'claims', erroneous or otherwise. I stated my experiences. That's all. Straight relationships are, quite literally, EVERYWHERE I look, including but not limited to: movies, tv, books, music, the bus stop, on airplanes, hiking in the mountains, listening to talk radio. It's literally everywhere. It'd be hard for me to NOT know about straight relationships. But I'm going to even say I don't know anything about them because I'm not in them! Frankly, I think I've been far more open minded than you have. And I still don't get your point here. All you're doing is coming at me for talking about my experiences. I didn't even say that all or the majority of straight people. I said some. If you want me to be more clear, some being the ones I know. Here, I'll even narrow it down more for you - "some" being the probably mentally unhealthy people that I have encountered in my life and have either had the pleasure or displeasure of talking to multiple times about their sex life. Is that narrow enough for you? And really, why the **** do you care that some gay dude on some internet forum said one time that some straight people have hangups and that's why they can't be friends? Why does that statement get under your skin so bad?

As far as women, I've never had a full-on relationship with a woman unless you count "going steady" in school as a relationship. I've had 2 sexual experiences with women. Also, If I'm gay, NO sex with women is going to be fulfilling. I'd think that'd be self-explanatory, but here we are. If you had sex with a dude, do you REALLY think it'd be fulfilling to you? I'm sure you wouldn't dig getting your ass pounded. Could be wrong. The prostate is a powerful drug. Just sayin'. And if you take a hit of poppers BEFORE he starts pounding... Well...

RE: women I've boned and hangups: both had major hangups about their bodies. One didn't like to be touched on her sides because she was so self-conscious. She was, up until recently, my best friend. We had sex when I was 18. The other chick was when I was 19. She was a friend of a friend who wanted to try to change me and I'd just had my heart broken so I was like "**** men" and decided to try it again. Couldn't keep it up for either one. I ate ***** damn good tho. I even made them (ready for it?) cum multiple times I can go into very specific detail about the first one. To your point about mental health, this specific woman I'm talking about has a ton of issues. Mostly around depression and body image.

RE: my pic - I've been doxxed. I've been here 1 1/2 months. I don't know ANYONE on this board yet that I'd be completely comfortable sending my pic to. Not yet. If you're really JUST having fun with me, then sure I'd do it, but you're still brow-beating me and trying to find little openings in my armor to go at me about. Why would I trust someone doing that?

Here, let me just do this for you and maybe you'll shut up. I WAS COMPLETELY TOTALLY AND UTTERLY WRONG! I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT STRAIGHT RELATIONSHIPS AT ALL! NOTHING! NOT A DAMN THING! AND STRAIGHT PEOPLE HAVE NO HANGUPS!! NONE!!! THEY CAN TOTALLY BE FRIENDS BECAUSE THERE ARE NO HANGUPS THERE! ZERO HANGUPS! EVERYONE OTHER THAN THE PEOPLE I KNOW ARE COMPLETELY MENTALLY HEALTHY AND CAN TOTALLY HAVE PLATONIC (plutonic!) RELATIONSHIPS! That help? I mean, I don't believe it but as long as you do, that's all that matters Also, much like ****, I can't do anything small, hence my long responses.