How does black America get fixed?

[RF667799]

End requiring cash bail, thus alleged perps can accumulate more victims before any prior cases (charges?) get to court.

That's what has been done here, and it does seem to be working. The police can arrest a meth head for stealing things from someone's garage, take him to the county lockup, and he's back in town the next day looking for something else to steal. Very efficient. Lately, the police have just turned a blind eye to a lot of the stealing, trespassing, unsettling behavior that scares the horses in the streets, etc., and made the process even more efficient.

 

[T25]

I can't answer that question. I would offend all the snowflakes from my lack of political correctness. To correct it however is not "law and order," of which this thread in in.

It's in the correct forum. Blacks are approximately five times more likely to commit murder than any other segment of America. If that isn't a law and order issue then nothing is.

 

[Lutherf]

What can be done?

Get rid of white people and there won't be any more problems.

 

[T25]

The same way Appalachia can be fixed: investment in socioeconomic development:

That's already been tried and done. It's not a financial issue it's a cultural issue. In fact, it can be argued that subsidizing fatherless households has been counterproductive to the black community. Giving them money isn't going to resolve the underlying issue.

 

[j brown's body]

What can be done?

You should ask them. You won't find any here though.

But as long as white owned housing has greater market value than black owned housing, even when incomes are the same, nothing is going to change.

I short, white people need to get over their fear of white people. Most of my clueless white friends seem to think blacks want to do to us what we have done to them all these years, but its just not true.

Untile we reckon with our racist past and its consequences today, the race issue will not be resolved.

 

[j brown's body]

Get rid of white people and there won't be any more problems.

You're right. I would simply revise it to say to get rid of whiteness. The people can stay, but get over your race. It ain't all that.

 

[T25]

LOL, The OP title is literally “ How does black America get fixed?”- not “how does poverty get fixed”.

This is clearly a racial issue.

The issue is black culture. Black culture of the 50's and 60's didn't have the issues that it has today. The biggest impediment to helping black Americans is the white, liberal, movement and the Democratic Party. They prefer the carnage and suffering continue rather than face reality and make societal changes to fix the problem.

 

[devildavid]

Fixing white America is the way to fix all the problems it created. Don’t have much hope this will ever happen in a country that started the way America did and consistently fails to acknowledge its own grave errors.

 

[devildavid]

The issue is black culture. Black culture of the 50's and 60's didn't have the issues that it has today. The biggest impediment to helping black Americans is the white, liberal, movement and the Democratic Party. They prefer the carnage and suffering continue rather than face reality and make societal changes to fix the problem.

The issue is white culture. They are in control and made things this way.

 

[T25]

Do you think poverty isn't part of the equation?

No. I live in a poor community in south-central Mexico with my Mexican wife (we came to care for her elderly parents) and violent crime here, let alone murder, is rare.

 

[T25]

The issue is white culture. They are in control and made things this way.

White Democrats to be precise.

 

[T25]

Fixing white America is the way to fix all the problems it created. Don’t have much hope this will ever happen in a country that started the way America did and consistently fails to acknowledge its own grave errors.

You see? Another white leftist that doesn't care about the hordes of black people that are murdered and maimed by fellow blacks. White liberals and their inane and racist attitudes and policies are the root cause of black criminality and suffering.

 

[hecatmoggie]

What can be done?

one person at a time


like anyone else - this is 2025, every advantage is given through discriminatory practices to help black American's

if they want to elevate they will, if they don't they won't

 

[ataraxia]

That's already been tried and done. It's not a financial issue it's a cultural issue.

You are saying schools in inner cities get as much funding as others? LOL no.

In fact, it can be argued that subsidizing fatherless households has been counterproductive to the black community. Giving them money isn't going to resolve the underlying issue.

It's a chicken and egg issue: but here we know the poverty and lack of education has led to the family dysfunction, not the other way around.

 

[ataraxia]

The issue is black culture. Black culture of the 50's and 60's didn't have the issues that it has today.

The reason was explained. Did you see it? I can repost it if you didn't. Let me know.

The biggest impediment to helping black Americans is the white, liberal, movement and the Democratic Party. They prefer the carnage and suffering continue rather than face reality and make societal changes to fix the problem.

So what is your solution, other than telling them to shape up?

When has THAT ever worked for anyone?

 

[Lord of Planar]

It's in the correct forum. Blacks are approximately five times more likely to commit murder than any other segment of America. If that isn't a law and order issue then nothing is.

Yes, but it is not going to be corrected by the justice system. it is the subculture. The way they are nurtured in life that are the problem.

 

[j brown's body]

You see? Another white leftist that doesn't care about the hordes of black people that are murdered and maimed by fellow blacks. White liberals and their inane and racist attitudes and policies are the root cause of black criminality and suffering.

You don't care enough about it to learn about and have an idea of what to do about it.

That is the crux of the problem. Other than bitch about it, whites have no interest in black on black crime. Blacks know this, so they met out a violent form of justice among themselves.

 

[j brown's body]

Yes, but it is not going to be corrected by the justice system. it is the subculture. The way they are nurtured in life that are the problem.

The justice system has failed them.

 

[Lutherf]

You're right. I would simply revise it to say to get rid of whiteness. The people can stay, but get over your race. It ain't all that.

Bound to fail. Just get rid of all the white people then you won't have anything to complain about.

 

[Lord of Planar]

The justice system has failed them.

How? By not having more than half locked up?

 

[T25]

You don't care enough about it to learn about and have an idea of what to do about it.

Typical leftist mindset. They tell you to shut up about it and go away. They prefer the status quo. Mountains of young, dead, black kids are no problem for white leftists. I'll step out now.

 

[Lutherf]

How? By not having more than half locked up?

Man, how long will it take you to understand LibThink?

It's easy, blacks are black and therefore every problem they have is because of whites. It's really just that simple! The same goes for the gender non-conforming. They would have no problems if not for the gender conforming. Cats would have no issues if not for dogs and Mondays would be perfect if not for the other days of the week. Why can't you get this through your head!

 

[j brown's body]

How? By not having more than half locked up?

"Leovy argues that the Los Angeles Police Department — and the criminal justice system nationally — has not placed a high enough priority on solving these murders. Her description of homicide detectives struggling to get the resources they need underscores her point: Computers and cars were in short supply. Detectives had to go to Office Depot to buy their own “murder books,” the blue binders where they kept their case notes. The detectives were not even given tape recorders to record interviews with witnesses or perpetrators; instead they had to buy their own.

In the 13 years before the homicide that opens her book, she writes, “a suspect was arrested in 38 percent of the 2,677 killings involving black male victims in the city of Los Angeles.” This lack of accountability is the primary cause, she argues, of the high homicide rate in some African-American neighborhoods: “Where the criminal justice system fails to respond vigorously to violent injury and death,” she writes, “homicide becomes endemic.”

...There are more than 2.2 million people now confined in American prisons and jails, and yet, in her view, the criminal justice system is not only“oppressive” but also “inadequate.” “Forty years after the civil rights movement, impunity for the murder of black men remained America’s great, though mostly invisible, race problem,” she writes. “The institutions of criminal justice, so remorseless in other ways in an era of get-tough sentencing and ‘preventive’ policing” — like stop-and-frisk — “remained feeble when it came to answering for the lives of black murder victims.”

Decades of acrimony between the department and civilians have left Skaggs and his fellow detectives feeling, she writes, “like door-to-door salesmen, trying to peddle a legal system no one wanted anything to do with.” Getting witnesses to talk, to tell the truth, to show up in court to testify, to not “roll back” on their stories — all of this can be close to impossible. As Leovy tells it, this is not primarily because of a street code against snitching, but a very real fear of being injured or killed. In one case, a victim’s mother actually tells her neighbors that she does not expect them to let their children cooperate with the detectives trying to solve her child’s murder; she doesn’t want to run the risk that any other child might be killed."

Jill Leovy’s ‘Ghettoside’ (Published 2015)

In “Ghettoside,” Jill Leovy describes a homicide case in South Los Angeles to examine the epidemic of unsolved murders of African-American men in America.

www.nytimes.com

 

[j brown's body]

The issue is white culture. They are in control and made things this way.

There is no real white culture. But there is a very real black culture and it probably defines American culture better than anything else.

 

[devildavid]

There is no real white culture. But there is a very real black culture and it probably defines American culture better than anything else.

There is a white culture. It is the basis for American culture. Its racism helped to create the black culture and all the other sub cultures that white culture wanted to be sure knew their place in the pecking order.